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Title: Sarah Ann Alcock search
Post by: Oscar64 on Tuesday 27 August 19 12:54 BST (UK)
Hi I am new to this forum but am hoping someone may be able to give me some help on the query below.

I am searching for my 2nd Great Grandfather George Alcock. All the Census I have state he was born in Bradford Yorkshire in 1851 but I just cant seem to find a Birth Record for him. His mum was Sarah Ann Alcock but I don't know if that was a maiden or married name. Some of the census say S and some say W?
George Died on 14th April 1916 in Acomb. He was married to Hannah Mortimer who was from Rufforth.
His Mum Sarah Ann died 15th Jan 1888 in York but she was born in Ireland. Thats all the census says, no area of Ireland is mentioned.
Any advice would be awesome but I fear this is a very tall brickwall!!
Many thanks
Teresa
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Alcock search
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 27 August 19 13:39 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat  :)

What details are given on George's marriage certificate?
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Alcock search
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 27 August 19 13:52 BST (UK)
For reference-
1861 census- Acomb, Yorks.: Sarah Alcock, widow, 44, Ireland, washerwoman; son George Alcock, 10, Bradford
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M71K-SWZ

1871 census- Acomb, Yorks: Sar Alcock, widowed, 56, laundress maid; son George Alcock, 20, Bradford, railway labourer
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBHV-M38

1881 census- Acomb, Yorks.: Sarah Alcock, widow, 69, Ireland, seamstress
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27R-CX68

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Alcock search
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Wednesday 28 August 19 23:47 BST (UK)
Sarah Alcock probably born 1814= 1817 gleaned from the census.  Attempting to find where the Alcocks lived in Ireland at that time is difficult and yet knowing that Alcock might be her married name. I searched the Tithe Applotment Books as the nearest record in time.
I have arranged the results by County. by county .Special note I was astonished at the amount of entries for Edward J Alcock. Is it a prank or error? So for brevity in this reply having found 126 entries in total I have reduced   them  by 57 lines as follows

23 entries for Alcock   Edward J      Durrus   Cork   1830 down to one
10 entries for Alcock   Edward J   Kilcrohane   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831 down to one
24 entries for Alcock   Edward J      Kilcrohane   Cork   1831 down to one

Tithe Applotment Books in 6 counties http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/
Alcok, Geo.-T[ownland]l: Fully Yr: 1834-Inishmacsaint –Fermanagh
Alcock, Joseph-- Townland: Drumnot Year: 1825-Killyman-Tyrone

Tithe Applotment Books in 26 counties 124 entries see http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/
Alcock   William   Corbally   Corbally   Cork   1833
Alcock   E I      Drinagh   Cork   1833
Alcock   Wm M      Drinagh   Cork   1833
Alcock   E J      Durrus   Cork   1830
Alcock   Edward J      Durrus   Cork   1830
Alcock      Arrean   Kilbrogan   Cork   1827
Alcock   Maskelyne   Roughgrove East   Kilbrogan   Cork   1827
Alcock   Maskeyline   Roughgrove East   Kilbrogan   Cork   1827
Alcock   M   Roughgrove West   Kilbrogan   Cork   1827
Alcock   Maskelyne   West Roughgrove   Kilbrogan   Cork   1827
Alcock         Kilbrogan   Cork   1827
Alcock   Edward J   Carravilleen   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Edward J   Carravilleen   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Edward Jones   Durrus   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Edward J   Fahane   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Edward J   Farranamanagh   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Edward J   Glanlough   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   E F   Kilcrohane   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Edward J   Kilcrohane   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Edward Jones   Kilcrohane   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Edward Jones   Kilcrohane   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Edward J   Reenacappul   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Edward J   Rossnacaheragh   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Edward J   Rossnacaheragh   Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Edward J      Kilcrohane   Cork   1831
Alcock   Thomas   Killoran   Killoran   Galway   1828
Alcock   John   Castlecomer   Castlecomer   Kilkenny   1823
Alcock   John   Donagile   Castlecomer   Kilkenny   1823
Alcock      Dunkitt   Dunkitt   Kilkenny   1825
Alcock      Strangsmill   Dunkitt   Kilkenny   1825
Alcock   W   Nicholastown   Kilcolumb   Kilkenny   1829
Alcock   W   Nicholastown   Kilcolumb   Kilkenny   1829
Alcock      Nicholastown   Kilcolumb   Kilkenny   1829
Alcock      Nicholastown   Kilcolumb   Kilkenny   1829
Alcock      Nicholastown   Kilcolumb   Kilkenny   1829
Alcock      Nicholastown   Kilcolumb   Kilkenny   1829
Alcock   Alexander   Muccolee   Muckalee   Kilkenny   1833
Alcock      Gardens   St Canice   Kilkenny   1828
Alcock   Patt   Doughloon   Achonry   Sligo   1827
Alcock   Richd   Doughloon   Achonry   Sligo   1827
Alcock   Alexander   Kilculliheen   Kilculliheen   Waterford   1833
Alcock   Alexander   Waterford   Kilculliheen   Waterford   1833
Alcock      Killea   Killea   Waterford   1827
Alcock   James   Upper Grange   St Johns Without   Waterford   1835
Alcock      Waterford   St Johns Without   Waterford   1835
Alcock   H   Carrigmacogue   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   H   Carrigmacogue   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   H   Coolteigue   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   H   Coolteigue   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   H   Crawn   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   H   Crawn   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   H   Donamore   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   H   Donanore   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   Harry   Kilgibbon   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   Harry   Kilgibbon   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   H   Killarah   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   H   Killaray   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   Harry   Park   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   Harry   Park   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   H   Wilton   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   H   Wilton   Clonmore   Wexford   1834
Alcock   Harry   Clonmore   Ferns   Wexford   1824
Alcock   Harry   Clonmore   Ferns   Wexford   1824
Alcock   A   Fethard   Fethard   Wexford   1828
Alcock   A   Grange   Fethard   Wexford   1828
Alcock      Freynestown   Freynestown   Wicklow   1836
Alcock      Friendstown   Freynestown   Wicklow   1836
 
I regretfully think its almost hopeless to bridge the water without more information.
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Alcock search
Post by: kristof on Saturday 24 October 20 03:37 BST (UK)
Hi,
I think I may possibly have a link - on my mother's side, I go back to a Samuel Moore who lived in Annaghmore, Armagh. His son, William, married Maria Alcock from Drumnott and in 1863 they emigrated to Australia. From the marriage record, it gives Maria's father's name as Joseph Alcock and mother as Ann Potts. Interestingly, a Robert and Sarah Potts were witnesses at William Moore's wedding in 1862.
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Alcock search
Post by: Wexflyer on Saturday 24 October 20 04:00 BST (UK)
There were two relevant births of a George Alcock in the Registration district of Basford, one 1851, one 1852. I can easily imagine Basford being misheard or mistranscribed as Bradford.

Title: Re: Sarah Ann Alcock search
Post by: Wexflyer on Saturday 24 October 20 04:12 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Sarah Ann Alcock search
Post by: Wexflyer on Saturday 24 October 20 04:16 BST (UK)
.Special note I was astonished at the amount of entries for Edward J Alcock. Is it a prank or error?

The NAI tythe site indexes every instance of a name. A landlord can feature in multiple townlands, and also in correspondence, certification, etc, and will be indexed for each occurrence.
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Alcock search
Post by: Wexflyer on Saturday 24 October 20 04:28 BST (UK)
For what it is worth, there is only one Sarah Anne Alcock born 1820-1840, in the RI database.
Bapt. Feb 1828, Cahir CofI, Co. Waterford. [Sic. surely Co. Tipperary?]