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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: theolddear on Sunday 01 September 19 12:03 BST (UK)
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Looking for any information on Martin Wilkinson born Flimby Cumberland 1902. I know he married Eleanor Hewitt. in the census of 1881 he was living with his niece Margaret husband Andrew and grandchildren Martin and Eleanor. Margaret was born in 1846 and in 1851 again listed as a niece but in 1861, when she was 15 listed as daughter. I believe Eleanor was mother to Margaret so why call her niece! Margarets son was Martin Wilkinson Souter. I am looking to solve this muddled mystery. Why would Martin list her twice as a niece and once as a daughter. I am intrigued!
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A good starting point in disentangling this family might be to look for Margaret's birth record on the GRO index to see what her mother's maiden name is. You may also need to buy a pdf of the record to get clarity.
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I presume you mean 1802 for Martin Wilkinson :)
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SOUTER, MARTIN WILKINSON, Mothers mn WARD***
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 707
Marriage FreeBMD 1873 Margaret WARD/Andrew SOUTER n same page
Birth Reg GRO;
WARD, MARGARET, Mothers mn HEWITT***
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in CARLISLE Volume 25 Page 51
Trish :)
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Possible Baptism?;
11 Jan 1846, Saint Cuthbert,Carlisle
Margaret WARD, Daug of JAMES/JANE
1851 Census Durham;
Martin Wilkinson 48
Elanor Wilkinson 46
Margaret Ward 5
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Where did you find the info.of Margaret Wards birth please
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James Ward,
Marriage Date: 10 Nov 1834, Crosthwaite, Cumberland
Spouse: Jane Heurt
1851 James seems to have remarried so maybe why Margaret is with her relatives.
Maryport, Cumberland
James Ward 41 Innkeeper born Thornborough, Yorkshire
Ruth Ward 40 born Ireby, Cumberland
Alice Ward 14 born Ingby Cross, Yorkshire
Joseph Ward 12 born Yorkshire
Thomas Ward 9 born Carlisle, Cumberland
Edward Ward 8 born Newrith, Cumberland
James Ward 2 born Carlisle
Mary Smith 16 Servant
WARD, THOMAS, Mothers mn HEWITT
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in CARLISLE Volume 25 Page 47
JAMES Ward Bapt 13 Oct 1848 to JAMES/RUTH
Likely Marriage Reg to Ruth TURNBULL Dec 1847 on FreeBMD
GRO Death Reg;
WARD, JANE age 40**
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in CARLISLE Volume 25 Page 36
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1846 Bapt is on Ancestry :)
Birth Reg with Mothers maiden name on GRO site.
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Martin Wilkinsons Bapt is on FreeREG 1802
Familysearch.Org;
Christenings, Bolton, Cumberland
JANE Hewitt 30 Mar 1806
ELEANOR Hewit 07 Jun 1807
Parents Joseph Hewit and Eleanor Earle
(several other children to them also)
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Thanks for all the information sent. I am now more confused than ever. It seems most strange that both Thomas and Margaret should have Hewitt as mother. I have sent for Margarets birth cert.in the hope that her father is mentioned. Why would Thomas be left with the family and Margaret removed? So many questions to answer!
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Thomas would be about 6 when his Mother died and Margaret a toddler.
Maybe the new Wife was not so comfortable with having toddler around.
Please let us know the outcome of the Birth Cert :)
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Problem solved! James Ward married Jane Hewitt. She had a sister Eleanor Hewitt who married Martin Wilkinson. After Jane died, Margaret was sent to live with Eleanor and Martin her aunt and uncle. This was also how the name Wilkinson came to be in the SOUTER family. Once the connections were made it was quite simple! I cannot find what happened to Thomas Ward who was another child of James and Jane. He was born in 1842. However,I have not investigated very far as yet.
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Yes that is how I saw it and provided the info you required.
I'm glad that is now solved for you :)
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I have today received the birth cert. Of Jane Ward. It confirms her father as James Ward and mother as Jane formerly HEWITT. Godd to know that we were right!
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Excellent :)
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You mentioned not knowing what happened to Thomas Ward.
This may be him;
UK, Apprentices Indentured in Merchant Navy, 1824-1910
Thomas Ward apprenticed 16 Nov 1855 aged 14 at Maryport to vessel Lott Bernard
OOh looking at image of record it has he drowned at Sea 14/6/1859. :'(