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Title: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: Nicky on Thursday 12 September 19 19:12 BST (UK)
Hannah was born 1828 in Norwich to Isaac and Sarah Pye.
She had an illegimate daughter in 1849, also Hannah.
In 1861 Hannah (1828) married Robert Eglington and had 2 sons,  Robert and George.
Robert senior died in 1870.
I have the 1871 census for Hannah and her 2 sons but then can't find her at all. I have the sons details.
I can't find a death or remarriage so any help please. Hannah is my 3rd great grandmother so would love to know what happened to her.
Many thanks.
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: Annette7 on Thursday 12 September 19 20:00 BST (UK)
I see from Probate Index that husband Robert Eglington is said to have died 13/8/1870 and I can't find a death entry for him either??

Annette

Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: Nicky on Thursday 12 September 19 20:11 BST (UK)
No I couldn't find a death for him either, I trusted probate that he was dead lol. It's all very strange.
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: The Yokel on Thursday 12 September 19 20:45 BST (UK)
Not much help, he was here in 1869 and Hannah in 1870

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ocr/

added:-
and what was going on at the London Tavern in 1870  :o

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ocs/v
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 12 September 19 21:19 BST (UK)
Do you have the 1861 marriage cert?  Was Robert a mariner?

IGNORE

Probate shows him as a licensed victualler
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: Nicky on Friday 13 September 19 06:44 BST (UK)
Thank you for responses, they did run the pub but in the 1871 census Hannah is then shown as a silk weaver and then disappears!
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: solidrock on Friday 13 September 19 09:05 BST (UK)
In the England, Norfolk Register of Electors, 1832-1915

Robert Eglington  1870  Public House  Andrews Hill  St Andrew, Norwich, Norfolk, England

the original record has been crossed out.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939F-DF9Y-WG?i=319&cc=1824705&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A2CM1-DC4    

Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: jonw65 on Friday 13 September 19 09:17 BST (UK)
In 1861 Hannah (1828) married Robert Eglington and had 2 sons,  Robert and George.

Don't forget the girls!
EGLINGTON, MARTHA       
Mother's Maiden Surname: PYE  
GRO Reference: 1863  D Quarter in NORWICH  Volume 04B  Page 101

Looks like twins
EGLINGTON, ELLEN  SARAH     
Mother's Maiden Surname: PYE  
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in NORWICH  Volume 04B  Page 113

EGLINGTON, EMMA  MARTHA
Mother's Maiden Surname: PYE  
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in NORWICH  Volume 04B  Page 113

Deaths
EGLINGTON, MARTHA       
Age at Death (in years): 2  
GRO Reference: 1865  D Quarter in NORWICH  Volume 04B  Page 74

Twins died in Dec quarter 1867
They must all be buried somewhere?
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: jonw65 on Friday 13 September 19 09:32 BST (UK)
Do you have the 1861 marriage cert?

A previous marriage to Mary Ann Burton, 25 August 1851, at Thorpe
Robert was a Carpenter. Described as Widower. Mary Ann a minor.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6X5R-FK?i=124&cc=1416598

Is she the Mary Ann Egleton who died Norwich in March qtr 1861, age 28?
(Robert and Hannah then married in the next quarter)

Baptism of their daughter Amelia in 1854 at St Etheldreda, Norwich, Robert still a Carpenter
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRY3-2XV?i=766&cc=1416598

Amelia is with Hannah in 1871 as step daughter. In 1861 she seems to be with her grandparents Robert and Martha (though it says niece)

Robert himself, a possible baptism at St Margaret, Norwich, 18 Sep 1825 of Robert Egleton, son of Robert and Martha, father a Carpenter
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D519-4T1?i=1409&cc=1416598&cat=271447
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: jonw65 on Friday 13 September 19 10:26 BST (UK)
As mentioned on an earlier thread, Amelia married in 1872
25 Dec 1872, also at Thorpe.
Age 18, father Robert Eglington, decd., Carpenter
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6X5G-CK?i=1323&cc=1416598&cat=536845
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: Nicky on Friday 13 September 19 11:08 BST (UK)
Thank you, I did know about the girls but sadly they died, will try find out where they are buried,  that might give some clues as to where Father Robert is buried.
Still no idea on Hannah,  she seems to have just disappeared.
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: avm228 on Friday 13 September 19 11:17 BST (UK)
Do you know who Harriet Eglington was (witness at Amelia’s marriage)?
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: Nicky on Friday 13 September 19 11:36 BST (UK)
No I don't know who Harriet was, haven't really looked too much at Amelia as she isn't related to me, my line is Hannah's illegimate daughter before she married Robert.
Might have to broaden the search.
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: jonw65 on Friday 13 September 19 12:25 BST (UK)
The boys were at the Hospital School in Norwich
Midsummer? 1871
Robt Eglington, born 14 April 1862
Time Out - Lady 1876

Xmas 1875
George Mk Eglington, born 30 June 1865
Time Out - Mids 1879
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: Nicky on Friday 13 September 19 12:35 BST (UK)
Are they the dates they were in the hospital school?
Where did you find these records please?
Would that indicate Hannah had died?

Many thanks for your help
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: jonw65 on Friday 13 September 19 14:28 BST (UK)
They seem to be the dates they were there, with both boys leaving when about 14.
No info on parents in the registers, available on f.m.p, the children may have needed to be nominated or something like that :-\
Probably doesn't necessarily mean that Hannah had died, at any rate Robert's admission could have been just after the 1871 census.
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 14 September 19 00:39 BST (UK)
Looks like the 2 boy's moved south.

EGLINGTON, ROBERT  ISAAC      63 
GRO Reference: 1925  S Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 505

EGLINGTON, GEORGE  MARK      73 
GRO Reference: 1938  S Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 697
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 14 September 19 02:00 BST (UK)
Marriages Jun 1895
Berry    Edith Emma         W. Ham    4a   52    
Eglington    George Mark         W. Ham    4a   52

Marriages Jun 1891
Eglington    Robert         Shoreditch    1c
Radley    Louisa         Shoreditch    1c

Looks like Robert was in West Ham in 1881


Robert Eglington  18  2 Laura Cot Norfolk Street, West Ham. Joiner.  Nephew.
Household  of John Kettle and Caroline Kettle, (nee Pye).
Piece: 1722  Folio: 96  Page Number: 48



George in 1881  Sussex Street 3 Palmers Buildings, Norwich St Clement.
George Eglington  15  Grandson   Carpenter.
Isaac Pye    77
Mary Pye    70

Piece: 1936  Folio: 24  Page Number: 7


Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: Nicky on Saturday 14 September 19 08:14 BST (UK)
Thank you for all the replies, I have spent hours looking through loads of documents and Hannah has quite simply disappeared. And also why was her husband's death not registered 🙈
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 14 September 19 08:33 BST (UK)
Thank you for all the replies, I have spent hours looking through loads of documents and Hannah has quite simply disappeared. And also why was her husband's death not registered 🙈

The GRO sheets that online records have been taken from are typed, it is possible it was just missed by the person that listed them
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: Nicky on Saturday 14 September 19 08:40 BST (UK)
That is very possibly true but what about Hannah, can't believe they would both be missed?
She definitely has disappeared early 1870's when both boys ended up in the National School.
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 14 September 19 09:12 BST (UK)
Any idea who this is? Could she have changed her name? Dates fit.

Amelia   Eglington   1827 1871   first name on this monument   Earlham   Norfolk

Eglington    Amelia    44    Norwich    4b   89
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 14 September 19 09:45 BST (UK)
Any idea who this is? Could she have changed her name? Dates fit.
Eglington    Amelia    44    Norwich    4b   89

That one left a will proved 19 Dec 1871. It's online. She was a spinster, among others she names her sisters Caroline Louisa Eglington and Eliza Bishop.
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 14 September 19 10:15 BST (UK)
How about..
Death, June 1878 Norwich 4b 63
Eagleton, Anna
age 50

Can't see any Eagleton possibilities in Norwich in the 1871 census, the two indexed in Kings Lynn district seem to be still alive in 1881.
Title: Re: Hannah Pye born 1828 help please
Post by: solidrock on Sunday 15 September 19 00:21 BST (UK)
How about..
Death, June 1878 Norwich 4b 63
Eagleton, Anna
age 50

Can't see any Eagleton possibilities in Norwich in the 1871 census, the two indexed in Kings Lynn district seem to be still alive in 1881.

Maybe worth getting the cert for that one to see who the informant was.  Also Norwich has a quite good set of burials records maybe worth contacting them,
www.archives.norfolk.gov.uk