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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: Kellehers on Saturday 14 September 19 10:46 BST (UK)
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Hi Everyone
Hitting a brick wall now for over 2 years and have exhausted all avenues that I know of
I'm looking for James Nicholson a farmer from County Cork, he had 2 Daughters that I know of
Ellen Married James Kelleher in april 1880 and had 6 children not sure of birth date who was born around 1859 Married Michael Hannon a soldier in the royal artillery and stationed in Cork in 1882, they had 1 daughter that I know if Mary Ellen Hannon born in 1883
Ellen is listed in the 1901 & 1911 cencus but i can't find Mary on there.
Can't find any birth records for them.
Can anyone help ?
Thanks
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Nothing from advice given on your other thread?
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=818651.msg6806903#msg6806903
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Where is Ellen living in 1901 and 1911?
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Where is Ellen living in 1901 and 1911?
By then she was Ellen Kelleher and she was living in house 7.5 Gratton St cork urban no 7 in 1901
and 6 Moore place Cork urban no 7 in 1911
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Nothing from advice given on your other thread?
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=818651.msg6806903#msg6806903
No nothing Hallmark,trawled through loads of records and still nothing
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This Search on Church records site doesn't show her.... I don't know how old she says she was on Census so just guessed 1850 to 1860
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I just did a Search entering only Mary and leaving all other boxes empty as I can't imagine there is a Parish anywhere with a Mary in it!
From there I clicked on Cork and these are the Parishes that came up for Cork!
As it looks like yours are in a Parish not included these Parish Registers (attached) don't need to be checked
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Grrrrr....can't imagine there is a Parish anywhere without a Mary in it!
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http://www.from-ireland.net/roman-catholic-dioceses-cork-1836/
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Ellen Married James Kelleher in april 1880 and had 6 children..........
In the 1911 census, she had 8 children 6 of whom were still living.
Missing children:
James Francis Kelleher Birth 1882
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02754/2011755.pdf
John Joseph Kelleher Birth 1884
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02685/1988950.pdf
KG
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Based on what you know....their father died by time of Married and would have been reasonably young!
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ocv/ gets you Death results for James nicholson from 1864 to 1880 which up to last week included the District.
One could then look for possibles of correct age in the Districts for Co Cork.... these can be found on http://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php and one Selects Cork from first dropdown box, with Cork being so big there may be about 20 Reg Districts.
If the ones in Link still had District on them it would have helped so for now not much apart from Registers or waiting for update on website!
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
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Ellen Married James Kelleher in april 1880 and had 6 children..........
Thanks kiltaglassan,these children died within 2 days of eachother,she went on to name another son James .
In the 1911 census, she had 8 children 6 of whom were still living.
Missing children:
James Francis Kelleher Birth 1882
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02754/2011755.pdf
John Joseph Kelleher Birth 1884
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02685/1988950.pdf
KG
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Based on what you know....their father died by time of Married and would have been reasonably young!
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ocv/ gets you Death results for James nicholson from 1864 to 1880 which up to last week included the District.
One could then look for possibles of correct age in the Districts for Co Cork.... these can be found on http://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php and one Selects Cork from first dropdown box, with Cork being so big there may be about 20 Reg Districts.
If the ones in Link still had District on them it would have helped so for now not much apart from Registers or waiting for update on website!
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
Thank you for your help Hallmark,the only one could be the death in 1873 James Nicholsonaged in his 40s as Mary was born in 1859,it's so so frustrating as I keep hitting brick walls with this family ,it's just so strange
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Thanks kiltaglassan,these children dies within 2 days of eachother,she went on to name another son James .
That is so sad.
Ellen herself was the informant for the deaths of her two young sons in April 1885. #215,216
Just putting it up for reference-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06282/4799924.pdf
KG
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Up to last week those Deaths had Districts.....
from https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php there are 19 Districts
If James' Death was Registered one could have looked for any showing one of following Districts which as you see would help considerably with what Registers to check.
All you can do is go on a World Cruise and check again when you get back!
;D
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Based on what you know....their father died by time of Married and would have been reasonably young!
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ocv/ gets you Death results for James nicholson from 1864 to 1880 which up to last week included the District.
One could then look for possibles of correct age in the Districts for Co Cork.... these can be found on http://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php and one Selects Cork from first dropdown box, with Cork being so big there may be about 20 Reg Districts.
If the ones in Link still had District on them it would have helped so for now not much apart from Registers or waiting for update on website!
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
Thank you for your help Hallmark,the only one could be the death in 1873 James Nicholsonaged in his 40s as Mary was born in 1859,it's so so frustrating as I keep hitting brick walls with this family ,it's just so strange
Have you checked FamilySearch to see if it is there?
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Have just spent nearly an hour trawling through family search ......6 hours searching on and off today grrrrr so annoying
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Still nothing.......
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Hi, is this one of your James?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02352/1879154.pdf
Maggsie
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Number 215 and 216
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06282/4799924.pdf
Maggsie
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Number 215 and 216
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06282/4799924.pdf
Maggsie
See reply #13
KG
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It's so so sad and then she gave birth to Ellen not long after losing them both and sisnt register her birth for over a year!! At some point she lost her sister mary when Mary was only in her 30s Ellen suffered so much loss its heartbreaking
Thanks kiltaglassan,these children dies within 2 days of eachother,she went on to name another son James .
That is so sad.
Ellen herself was the informant for the deaths of her two young sons in April 1885. #215,216
Just putting it up for reference-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06282/4799924.pdf
KG