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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Berkshire => Topic started by: LizzieL on Saturday 21 September 19 14:29 BST (UK)
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Adam Hatto was baptised in Chilton, Berks on 6 Sep !840, s/o Joseph Hatto and Sarah Annetts. He was in the army from 1858 to 1876, much of the time serving in East Indies. I can find him in 1891 and 1911 with wife Emma. The 1911 says they have been married 32 years (around 1879) and had 1 child who had died by 1911. His army discharge says he was going to live in Abingdon, which is where Emma says she was born. So a marriage in Abingdon seems most likely. Can anyone find his marriage and the details of their child, please? In 1911 he was living in Eynsham, Oxon and died there later in 1911, but was buried in Abingdon.
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Have you looked for all Hatto Birth Regs 1879-1891 on FreeBMD in Berkshire?
Then looked for Death Regs same time frame for young children?
Cross checked Mothers maiden names on GRO?
Trish :)
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Have you followed up the “niece” Louisa Gardner, 9, who is with Adam and Emma in 1881 (in Abingdon: RG11/1281/29/5) ? If they didn’t marry I wonder whether she is actually their child but under her mother’s maiden name.
I think her birth reg is as Louise Gardiner, no mmn, Sep qtr 1871 Abingdon.
There is at least one Emma Gardiner of the right sort of age born in Abingdon. Perhaps she is the sempstress who in 1871 (Emma Gardener 24 b Abingdon) is in Aldershot - mixing with Army men? Already pregnant with Louise, perhaps? Emma Hatto is a sempstress in 1881.
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Familysearch has them recorded in the 1881 census as Hatts:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27H-7FXP
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Thank you everyone.
Yes I had looked for Hatto children dying young in that time period, but none in Abingdon, Two in Wantage district, which looks like thay are Adam's brother Caleb's with his 1st and 2nd wives. Three in Faringdon district children of William Hatto and Sarah Ann Gerring, and 1 in Oxford, child of Joseph Hatto and Jessie Adams.
I had them in Abingdon in 1881 and had wondered about Louisa Gardner. I hadn't managed to find her birth registration. But it seems she is still alive in 1911 as a servant in the Pryce household.
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You’re right - Louisa does seem to survive. She may be a clue to Emma’s origins, nevertheless. The mystery child may also be under the Gardiner name.
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There's an Emma Hatto aged 56 from Abingdon in the 1901 census in Bampton, A tailoress, married, with a son Henry Hatto (Ancestry transcribes the name as Hersey Hatto) aged 13 born Oxford.
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Is this likely to be Emma
From Abingdon St Helens PRs
Baptism
1845 Mar 30 GARDINER Emma, d/o George & Mary, weaver, Ock St, born 27 Feb 1845
A Sarah HATTO buried there in 1873 and a Joseph in 1876.
Ian C
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Hi,
The Emma Gardiner born Abingdon 1845 (as posted by Eyesee) has a mothers maiden name of Bedford (per GRO index)
Does this help, or hinder!!
Alan
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Is this likely to be Emma
From Abingdon St Helens PRs
Baptism
1845 Mar 30 GARDINER Emma, d/o George & Mary, weaver, Ock St, born 27 Feb 1845
A Sarah HATTO buried there in 1873 and a Joseph in 1876.
Ian C
Looks a strong possibility that it's the right Emma.
Joseph and Sarah could be Adam's parents
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There's an Emma Hatto aged 56 from Abingdon in the 1901 census in Bampton, A tailoress, married, with a son Henry Hatto (Ancestry transcribes the name as Hersey Hatto) aged 13 born Oxford.
He looks like Henry Clifford Hatto mmn Hall, reg Headington Q2 1887.
I was just assuming it was Emma Gardiner because of Louisa's surname.
Or the Emma Hatto in Bampton is not the right Emma ::) ???
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Henry Clifford Hatto seem to be someone else (from baptism and census returns - son of Joseph and Jessie).
I haven’t been able to trace Emma’s son Henry other than in the 1901 census already found by ShaunJ. He appears to be a strong candidate for the mystery Hatto child.
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But where is Henry in 1891, Adam and Emma don't have a child with them.
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But where is Henry in 1891, Adam and Emma don't have a child with them.
True - and Henry Clifford is not with his parents Joseph and Jessie in 1901.
So one possibility is that the Henry found with Emma in 1901 is in fact Henry Clifford Hatto, perhaps a nephew rather than (as stated) her son, and the search for her deceased child goes on.
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But where is Henry in 1891, Adam and Emma don't have a child with them.
True - and Henry Clifford is not with his parents Joseph and Jessie in 1901.
So one possibility is that the Henry found with Emma in 1901 is in fact Henry Clifford Hatto, perhaps a nephew rather than (as stated) her son, and the search for her deceased child goes on.
I think nephew is right
I have Henry Clifford Hatto in 1911 with parents Joseph and jessie in Cheshire. Joseph was born in Chilton in abt 1861, which matches with the Joseph who is Adam's youngest brother.
There is a marriage in Headington district in 1887 for Joseph Hatto, Jessie Hall a possible bride
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Is this likely to be Emma
From Abingdon St Helens PRs
Baptism
1845 Mar 30 GARDINER Emma, d/o George & Mary, weaver, Ock St, born 27 Feb 1845
A Sarah HATTO buried there in 1873 and a Joseph in 1876.
Ian C
Just found another Emma Gardiner mmn Kent reg Abingdon 1845 in Q2, could be either