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Title: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: Lottiemay on Friday 04 October 19 14:58 BST (UK)
Hi
Hopefully someone will be able to help me with the O Connor family tree.
I am looking for a birth of Martha/Maud Connor/O Connor abt 1891, birth of brother Patrick born 1885.Mother Mary who was a widow according to 1901 census. (husband Patrick) 1901 census lived in the townland of Rylands, Parish: Drumagh in Omagh. Roman Catholic.
Any help would be much appreciated
Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: hallmark on Friday 04 October 19 15:14 BST (UK)



Because of variations in Surname one can try a Search like this on

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

which is the Irish Govt BDM Website and one gets Certs for free.


There is a Captcha to solve

Then use initials to sign in.  No Sub needed.

To look for Maud or Martha just amend Search accordingly.

Or look for Parent's Marriage using relevant Year Range or Father's Death etc etc 

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line  explains years covered


Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 04 October 19 15:16 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat  :)


Hi
Hopefully someone will be able to help me with the O Connor family tree.
I am looking for a birth of Martha/Maud Connor/O Connor abt 1891, birth of brother Patrick born 1885.Mother Mary who was a widow according to 1901 census. (husband Patrick) 1901 census lived in the townland of Rylands, Parish: Drumagh in Omagh. Roman Catholic.
Any help would be much appreciated


Firstly, linking the 1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Omagh/Rylands/1746468/

Might these be the birth records for Martha and Patrick, both born in the Omagh workhouse?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02400/1894920.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02680/1987380.pdf

KG

Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: hallmark on Friday 04 October 19 15:17 BST (UK)

RC Registers are also online free

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0365  OMAGH




Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: Lottiemay on Friday 04 October 19 15:36 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for the replies. Very Helpful!
Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: Mary McGrath on Saturday 07 December 19 21:56 GMT (UK)
Hi, I don't know if this is the same O'Connors I am trying to find. My grandmother was Catherine McGrath then McCluskie (Nee O'Connor ). My father Patrick McGrath died young and we would love to find out about both families. I think the O'Connors may have come from Mountjoy East Omagh. Their father was Francis and there was a Margaret, Patrick etc. On the McGrath side her first husband was Robert McGrath and they were married in Sacred Heart Church Omagh. My grandfather had a brother Andrew and a sister Sarah who married an Owen Rafferty in Omagh. If you think this is the same connection my sister would have more information on the O'Connors. So sad that when you are young you don't think to ask any questions. We would love to trace both families and would love to visit their graves which we have already travelled to Tyrone looking for.
Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 08 December 19 11:29 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat  :)

If you can give us some dates, we may be able to help.

KG

Added: Is this the marriage of your grandmother?

Party 1 Name   Michael MCCLOSKEY
Party 2 Name   Catherine MCGRATH
Date of Event   06 April 1920
Group Registration ID   1190030
SR District/Reg Area   Omagh
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09259/5352030.pdf
Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: Mary McGrath on Sunday 08 December 19 12:11 GMT (UK)
Yes, that is my grandmothers second marriage. Her first marriage was to Robert McGrath, Dumragh, on the 1/10/1914 at the Sacred Heart Church in Omagh. Marriage no 96 in on the certificate. I would dearly like to find Robert McGraths place of burial as we would like to erect a headstone on it. I know my grandfather had a brother Andrew who married a Theresa Starrs but he also died young and Theresa remarried a Francis Woods on the 29th of November 1908. She had a son named Michael McGrath from the first marriage, the second marriage took place in Drumannon. On my grandmothers Kathleen O'Connors side we can find no trace of the O'Connors father Francis but my grandmothers sister Margaret O'Connor married a John Burke (his father was Michael Burke) on the 7/10/1919 in Omagh. Her address was Mountjoy East Omagh. My grandmother also had a sister Mary O'Connor who married a Patrick Cassidy on the 13th of November 1910 in Omagh. Marriage no 184. We can not find the O'Connor family being registered but suspect they lived in Mountjoy East Omagh as a few of the marriages gave that address. If we could only find a birth certificate we would know my grandmothers, mothers name. We would also love to know her siblings connections but we seem to think my late mother mentioned a Peter O'Connor calling to the house in Glasgow one time. Thanks for your help. 
Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 08 December 19 14:40 GMT (UK)
Just linking the 1914 marriage of Kathleen O'Connor and Robert McGrath. McGrath has been transcribed as Macauley (but it has been reported).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09864/5582887.pdf

KG
Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 08 December 19 15:16 GMT (UK)

 On my grandmothers Kathleen O'Connors side we can find no trace of the O'Connors father Francis but my grandmothers sister Margaret O'Connor married a John Burke (his father was Michael Burke) on the 7/10/1919 in Omagh. Her address was Mountjoy East Omagh. My grandmother also had a sister Mary O'Connor who married a Patrick Cassidy on the 13th of November 1910 in Omagh. Marriage no 184. We can not find the O'Connor family being registered but suspect they lived in Mountjoy East Omagh as a few of the marriages gave that address. If we could only find a birth certificate we would know my grandmothers, mothers name. 


This might be the birth record of your grandmother in 1891, father Francis, mother Mary Anne and MMN McCann (?). The townland is Correnarry (sic). Corranarry and Mountjoy Forest East border eachother.    #165
  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02389/1891178.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/strabane-upper/cappagh-upper-strabane-portion/corranarry/
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/strabane-upper/cappagh-upper-strabane-portion/mount-joy-forest-east-division/

KG

Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: Mary McGrath on Sunday 08 December 19 19:19 GMT (UK)
Thank you, but we do not think this is the right family although it is a possibility.This family very much go by the name Connor. My sister has delved more into this and she was the one who informed you that the name McCauley was wrong. The reason we think this is not the family as we understand my grandmother was 18 when she married and was 19 when my father Patrick McGrath was born. Also we are sure there was a Peter in the family and there is no Peter in this family. They also were as far as we know all know by the name O'Connor. We really appreciate your help, it is like a jig saw puzzle and as I say my father died so young when we as a family go 8 had no knowledge of our ancestors and it is only this last few years we are anxious to know our people. My father lived with Sarah McGrath in Drumragh I think till he was 9 and his mother then took him from there. My father always spoke very kindly of his aunt Sarah. We are sure there must be people out there who are connected to us on both sides that we would dearly like to know who they are. Our first aim would be to erect a headstone on my grandfather Robert McGraths grave. The McGrath family were registered one time in Edergoole, I think the 1911 census and my grandfather Robert McGrath's mother name was Ann Jane Black.Thank you so much for your help.
Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: amac1210 on Monday 14 December 20 12:56 GMT (UK)
You mention the "house in Glasgow". I suspect we are related somehow, since I am descended from Teresa O'Connor (1867-1954). Her roots seem to lie in Omagh, but we're not 100% sure. Her parents are listed as James O'Connor and Jane O'Connor. I can't find anything more out about them, a certain Jane Connor does appear on her 1893 marriage to Eugene Gallagher, however. We have plenty of family in Co. Tyrone and Co. Fermanagh. It is just difficult piecing together how they all relate to us.
Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: amac1210 on Sunday 27 December 20 20:45 GMT (UK)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=774938.18
Here is the other thread for Teresa O'Connor. Her parents, as I said, were James O'Connor and Jane O'Connor. Other details are on the thread, but it's still a mystery to me.
Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: Mary McGrath on Wednesday 13 January 21 16:50 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for getting in touch and for the link to the additional background information. From what is available is not possible to find any connection between our families, though if we went far enough back, we would certainly have a common O'Connor heritage in Tyrone. Your family clearly came to Scotland in the mid 1800's. We know of no family connection with Scotland until around 1920. Our great grandparents were Francis O'Connor and, we believe Mary Ann McFarland. We now know they were from the Sion Mills area and married somewhere around 1880, but know nothing further than that. With very best wishes in your search. Mary McGrath
Title: Re: O Connor/Connor Omagh
Post by: amac1210 on Tuesday 26 January 21 00:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that! The odd thing is that they may have been aware of each other, as is often the case in rural Ireland. My research has led me to discover that my O'Connor family remained in contact with another branch in Co. Fermanagh, who I recently re-discovered, until the 1980s. Unfortunately, the most recent common ancestor is at least on the scale of Teresa's great-grandparents. They knew they were cousins, and it would have to be at least 3rd-4th cousins, but they didn't note down how the relationship worked out! Teresa and her husband Eugene Gallagher lived in Fleetwood, Lancashire for the first few years of their marriage. Who knows if they made contact with some of your lot, at one point or another? Best, Amac1210