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Title: Where to find attestations to Royal Artillery? c (1840-1850)
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 10 October 19 13:48 BST (UK)
My chap allegedly enlisted in 1846 (probably Woolwich).
I've found some attestations for dates after that, but none of this era.

eg on FindMyPast Royal Artillery Attestations 1883-1942

Where should I be looking?

Thanks, Pauline
Title: Re: Where to find attestations to Royal Artillery? c (1840-1850)
Post by: MaxD on Thursday 10 October 19 14:05 BST (UK)
There isn't an attestation register such as the 1883 onward one on FindMyPast. 
National Archives:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14277
is where to go but note what it says under "separated material".

I take it you have looked in the usual FindMyPast and Ancestry military records area in the hope that some papers have survived?

MaxD
Title: Re: Where to find attestations to Royal Artillery? c (1840-1850)
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 10 October 19 14:11 BST (UK)
Got a service/pension record (from FindMyPast).
UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Admissions and Discharges, 1715-1925


A tree alleges that this chap who rocks up in 1870's North yorks is a great-uncle of mine, and parents are named upon his enlistment.

With a birthdate of 1831, no marriage cert and the possibility that either he lied about age when enlisting, or they've picked the wrong "John Brown". I'm trying to verify which scenario is correct.
Title: Re: Where to find attestations to Royal Artillery? c (1840-1850)
Post by: medpat on Thursday 10 October 19 14:36 BST (UK)
He could have been a boy soldier so don't dismiss it because he was young.
Title: Re: Where to find attestations to Royal Artillery? c (1840-1850)
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 10 October 19 14:46 BST (UK)
Who said anything about dismissing it?
I'm trying to verify it!
Title: Re: Where to find attestations to Royal Artillery? c (1840-1850)
Post by: MaxD on Thursday 10 October 19 15:41 BST (UK)
I would ask the tree owner to show you where his parents are listed.  It was not practice to name parentage on army enlistment forms (which in any event are rare as hen's teeth).

Is this 2306 John Brown, intending to live in South Bank near Middlesbrough on discharge in 1870?

MaxD
Title: Re: Where to find attestations to Royal Artillery? c (1840-1850)
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 10 October 19 16:12 BST (UK)
I would ask the tree owner to show you where his parents are listed.  It was not practice to name parentage on army enlistment forms (which in any event are rare as hen's teeth).

Is this 2306 John Brown, intending to live in South Bank near Middlesbrough on discharge in 1870?

Yup, that's the one. I've never seen attestation  parents either. Nor do I know when/ where the marriage was. He implied it was in England, but nothing more.
Title: Re: Where to find attestations to Royal Artillery? c (1840-1850)
Post by: MaxD on Thursday 10 October 19 19:42 BST (UK)
Do you go along with the "born in Woolwich" bit of his record?  (There is an 1831 Woolwich birth to parents David and Ann who looks like a second John after an earlier John was born and died in 1830).
Meanwhile, send the heavies round to demand the evidence of parents on enlistment papers!

MaxD