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Title: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: Mobo on Tuesday 15 October 19 13:19 BST (UK)
Looking for the parents of Emma Louise PETERKIN who was born in 1878, in London, (think her mother would have been Emma),   ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 15 October 19 13:24 BST (UK)
Looks like she was illeg;

PETERKIN, EMMA  LOUISE ...    -  no Mothers mn
GRO Reference: 1878  M Quarter in HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 681

Trish :)
Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 15 October 19 13:34 BST (UK)
Also
Birth Dec qtr 1879 
Louis Wenger Peterkin - no mothers maiden surname
Holborn    1b   689
Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: AMBLY on Tuesday 15 October 19 13:46 BST (UK)
Also:

Henri Ferdinand Wenger PETERKIN,  no mms.
March Qtr Romford,  Volume 04A  Page 235

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: Mobo on Tuesday 15 October 19 13:51 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone - Have got those two, and also Henri Ferdinand Wenger PETERKIN b. 1878 in Holborn, but without a father's name, I can't move forward.  I found them on various Census returns with mother Emma, but no father.  Really frustrating..... ??? ??? ???  Can't find them in Parish Records, so looks like I'll have to send for Henri Ferdinand's Birth Cert.   Thanks again !!  ;D ;D ;D   
Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 15 October 19 13:56 BST (UK)
The family is in Essex in 1881 all listed as Wenger
RG11/1743 f95 p20

I doubt that the birth certificates will give a fathers name as the index indicates the births were registered as Peterkin and not 'Wenger with mmn Peterkin'

Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 15 October 19 14:11 BST (UK)
In 1881 Emmas occupation is crossed out

Have you considered the Louis Wenger occ Furrier .  He is age 46 and living in same household as his mother Adelaide. 
RG11 / 337 f23 p42

Could Emma's occupation be Furriers wife
Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: AMBLY on Tuesday 15 October 19 14:13 BST (UK)

Snap, Rosie posted - have typed out so posting also.....

Census 1881:  Victoria Road Romford
RG11 - P 1743 / F  95 /  Pg 20
Head: Emma WENGER 31, Married, F---------'s Wife,  Mitcham, Surrey
Dau:  Emma Louise WENGER 3, b London
Son: Louis WENGER 1, b London
Son" Henri Ferdinand WENGER 4m, b Romford Essex

Her occupation, has been struck out, begins with an F,   doesn't look like Fisherman's, doesn't look like Farmer's. I thought, could be Fireman's…..but could it be 'Furrier'?

Which makes this chap appealing:

Census 1881: 14 Queens Square, St George the Martyr, Finsbury
RG11 - P 337 /  F 23 / Pg 42
Head: Louis WENGER 46, married, Furrier, b Germany, Prussen?, British Subject
Mother: Adelaide WENGER 70, widow, b,  {"}
Plus, 5 Lodgers, a cook, 2 servants

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 15 October 19 14:14 BST (UK)
Good that we are thinking along the same lines  ;D
Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 15 October 19 14:16 BST (UK)
Deleted on wrong track, well done all :)


Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 15 October 19 14:33 BST (UK)
Did he marry in the USA  (familysearch)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24CM-P5B

02 Oct 1896
Manhattan, New York, United States

Louis Wenger   
Age:   61 -
Marital Status:   Single
Race:White
Birth Year 1835
Birthplace:Dueren Coln of Rh., Gy.
Father's Name:   Fred Wenger
Mother's Name:   Adelaide Keres

Spouse's Name:   Emma Farley
Spouse's Age:   50
Spouse's Marital Status:   Single
Spouse's Race:   White
Spouse's Birthplace:   Mickelton, England
Spouse's Father's Name:   Richard Farley
Spouse's Mother's Name:   Sarah Brookes

Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 15 October 19 14:42 BST (UK)
Naturalisation certificate for Louis 3 June 1880

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11721731
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4135203

also a possible picture of tiger lying down copyright
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16774505

Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: amondg on Tuesday 15 October 19 14:58 BST (UK)
The Emma Farley he marries in the USA is a servant in his household age 35 from Buckleton Gloucestershire in the 1881 census London.
Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: amondg on Tuesday 15 October 19 16:06 BST (UK)
1901 Emma is with her mother as Perterkin St Pancras
in the next census still with her mother but as Emma Louisa Weyer(Wenger) Peterkin

Her mother dies 1915 St Pancras and is buried 26 February 1915 Camden
On 24 June 1915 daughter Emma sails for Australia age 37 single
Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: Mobo on Tuesday 15 October 19 16:13 BST (UK)
WOW !! thanks everyone - you've all given me so much brilliant information. I can't wait to go and search through it all !!  Thank you once again  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: Michelle Munn on Tuesday 28 July 20 04:04 BST (UK)
I beleive I may be related to you. My great grandfather was Louis Peterkin/Wenger. Born November 1 1879 mother is Emma Peterkin of chapel Street bedford row. I also have memoriam for Henri in 1953 in st Pancras cemetery.   Louis married Mabel guess. And moved to Canada in sometime after 1919 my grandfather Alexander was born May 30, 1919.
Title: Re: Parents of Emma Louise Wenger PETERKIN
Post by: Mobo on Tuesday 28 July 20 07:30 BST (UK)
Sorry Michelle, this is not my family - it was just some research I did last year for a friend.  Thank you anyway.  :D :D :D