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Title: Private Harry Coy
Post by: SarahThomson78 on Tuesday 29 October 19 19:13 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help find details on my great uncle Harry coy from Banbury who dies in ww1.
Any info on Harry or other relatives greatly received 😊
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: MarysInMyTree on Tuesday 29 October 19 19:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Sarah
Have you looked at the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website: cwgc.org
It has an excellent searchable database and a lot of information on many of the fallen.
Mary
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 29 October 19 20:21 GMT (UK)

Hi Sarah
Have you looked at the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website: cwgc.org
It has an excellent searchable database and a lot of information on many of the fallen.
Mary


https://www.cwgc.org/

KG
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 29 October 19 20:41 GMT (UK)
Did he have  middle name ?
There is a Harry cyril Coy birth place Wardington Oxon
Died 21 October 1914
France an Flanders
Enlistment place Banbury
Rank private
Regiment Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire  light Infantry
2 Battalion
Number 9842
Killed in action

Is this him ?

Rosie

And welcome to Rootschat  :)
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 29 October 19 20:43 GMT (UK)
Rosie just beat me to it!

Was he Harry Cyril Coy born about 1894?

There is a Harry Cyril Coy in the 2nd Battalion of the Oxforshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry who sadly died on 21 October 1914 'France and Flanders'. Service number 9842. I realise this may not be him.

Residence shown as Chipping Warden, Oxfordshire = enlisted at Banbury. -- born in Wardington.

Father also Harry Coy.


Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: SarahThomson78 on Tuesday 29 October 19 20:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosie
Yes this is him!
I am just stuck now and don’t know where to go.
I would love to see a photo of him or find any living relatives that would know anything about him 😊
Thank you
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 29 October 19 20:53 GMT (UK)
There are a few tree's on Ancestry but not seeing any photos of him do you have him on any census records ?

Rosie
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: SarahThomson78 on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:04 GMT (UK)
I haven’t seen any cenus , I just don’t know where to start really. I would love to find any living relatives of him.
😊
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Sarah and welcome to Rootschat  :)

I spotted this in the Banbury Advertiser 17 December 1914, it gives his date of birth.

Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: MarysInMyTree on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:16 GMT (UK)
Are you on ancestry or findmypast? Census shows him in 1901 and 1911.
His mother Ada had died by the time he was seven in 1901.
By 1911 father Harry has remarried and Harry has at least two step brothers and three new half sisters.
FreeBMD has dates for births and marriages.

Just noticed there's a thread about this family from 2011 as well.
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:22 GMT (UK)
If you have access to Ancestry you could try contacting some of the tree members and see if they can help you get in touch with any living relatives .....As he was  born 1894 Banbury you would look for him on the 1901 Census ..as you have not seen any here it is
1901 Chipping Warden Registration Banbury
Harry Coy age 34 widower occupation carter on farm born London Middlesex
Edith Coy age 12 daughter born Northants Chipping Warden
John Coy age 11 son born Northant Chipping Warden
Harry Coy age 7 born Warrington Oxfordshire

Rosie
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:26 GMT (UK)
His parents marriage 29 November 1887 Chipping Warden
Harry Coy
Ada J  Lovell

His mother died 1899
Burial Ada Jane Coy 21/5/1899
Chipping Warden

Rosie
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: Girl Guide on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:33 GMT (UK)
Looks like Edith married an Arthur Sargent

Marriages Sep 1907   
COY    Edith Bessie        Northampton    3b   197   
SARGENT    Arthur        Northampton    3b   197

1911 shows them living at 10 Gas St Northampton, Northampton, Northamptonshire with two children, Arthur and Dorothy.
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: SarahThomson78 on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:34 GMT (UK)
That’s amazing thank you 🙏
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:34 GMT (UK)
His father's second marriage 20/4/1904
Byfield Northamptonshire
Harry Coy age 37 widower
Florence Kate Steel 25 spinster

We are not allowed to post details of the 1911 census but you can try www.familysearch.org
This is a free site but you will need to register

Rosie
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: SarahThomson78 on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:35 GMT (UK)
🙏 Thank you
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: Girl Guide on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:40 GMT (UK)
Rosie,you can post details from the 1911.  I confirmed that with Sarah.

This appears to be Arthur's marriage

Marriages Dec 1932 
Robins    Edith C    Sargent    Northampton    3b   97    
Sargent    Arthur H T    Robins    Northampton    3b   97

Arthur's birth record

SARGENT, ARTHUR  HARRY THOMAS    COY 
GRO Reference: 1908  J Quarter in NORTHAMPTON  Volume 03B  Page 72

You can find Arthur in the 1939 especially if you use the H T.  The 1939 Register is the one we can't give details from.
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:43 GMT (UK)
His sister Edith Bessie Sargent died 1976
His brother John Henry Coy died 1/May 1928
Coventry Warwickshire father and sister mentioned on probate record

Rosie
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:48 GMT (UK)
Rosie,you can post details from the 1911.  I confirmed that with Sarah

Thanks Girl Guide I know we can't post details on the 1939 thought 1911 was the same so thanks for the update  :)

Rosie
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:50 GMT (UK)
This report of the Funeral of Harry's father in the Banbury Guardian 14 February 1952 gives quite a few family names to work with.

Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 29 October 19 21:53 GMT (UK)
Excellent Jools lots of names there to help with finding family  :)

Rosie
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: SarahThomson78 on Tuesday 29 October 19 22:01 GMT (UK)
I can’t thank you enough 🙏
You guys are amazing xx
Title: Pte Harry cyril coy
Post by: SarahThomson78 on Tuesday 12 January 21 21:13 GMT (UK)
I am looking for information of my great uncle Harry cyril coy but especially family members from 2010 onwards

Thank you 🙏
Title: Re: Pte Harry cyril coy
Post by: nanny jan on Tuesday 12 January 21 21:24 GMT (UK)
Do you have any more details about Harry? Where and when was he born?

Title: Re: Pte Harry cyril coy
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 12 January 21 21:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Sarah

Is this the same Harry as mentioned in your post here? Threads merged.

Monica
Title: Re: Pte Harry cyril coy
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 12 January 21 21:40 GMT (UK)
2010 onwards is too recent as we aren't allowed to discuss any living persons here  :)
Title: Re: Pte Harry cyril coy
Post by: SarahThomson78 on Wednesday 13 January 21 06:52 GMT (UK)
Hi yes it is the same Harry.
I would just love to know family members from then on so I can start to put the family tree together.
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 13 January 21 11:22 GMT (UK)
Obviously before Harry was born
Rootspoint Census info of his family
Harry Coy was a man born in 1866 in Woodford Northamptonshire Wardington. During the 1891 UK Census he was 25 years old and lived in Oxfordshire. He appears as the head of his house in the 1891 UK Census.
LAST NAME:   Coy
FIRST NAME:   Harry
MIDDLE NAME:   
BIRTH YEAR:   1866
BIRTH PLACE:   Woodford Northamptonshire Wardington
COUNTY:   Oxfordshire
AGE:   25
GENDER:   Male
RESIDENCE:   Beer House Red Lion, Wardington
Wardington, Oxfordshire
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:   
Harry Coy (25, Male)
Ada J Coy (22, Female)
Edith B Coy (2, Female)
John H Coy (1, Male)

so Harry and Ada ran the Red Lion in Wardington
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 13 January 21 11:25 GMT (UK)
not a pub any more - butThe Red Lion is still there
I presume Harry lived in this house at one point
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Red+Lion+House,+Thorpe+Rd,+Wardington,+Banbury+OX17+1SR/@52.1096699,-1.2760994,3a,75y,89.56h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWgJ8M08NJoRChksGDUjEDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x4877241aa188aa4f:0xfe155e008b334bf!8m2!3d52.1097429!4d-1.275874
Title: Re: Private Harry Coy
Post by: MaxD on Wednesday 13 January 21 16:37 GMT (UK)
His medal card:http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D1983360 shows he deployed to France right at the beginning of the war on 14 August 1914 which suggests he was either a returning reservist or an already serving regular soldier (there may be more to establish here).

You can download the war diary (just have to register) at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14052864.  The action in which he fell claimed, among others, 61 men killed that day and took place in the area of Langemarck and Zonnebeke north aast of Ypres.

MaxD