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Title: Stealing Deal Board
Post by: GinetteGisborne on Thursday 31 October 19 23:13 GMT (UK)
I wonder if anyone has heard of this before, I have read, unfortunately in a Criminal Record form 1852 that my G Grandfather was sentenced to 6 months imprisonment for stealing 5 pieces of Deal Board. I have no idea what this is - he is listed on the 1851 census as an Agricultural Labourer. has anyone heard of Deal Board?
Title: Re: Stealing Deal Board
Post by: GR2 on Thursday 31 October 19 23:18 GMT (UK)
Deals are softwood boards, usually pine or fir.
Title: Re: Stealing Deal Board
Post by: Craclyn on Thursday 31 October 19 23:19 GMT (UK)
A piece of wood?
Title: Re: Stealing Deal Board
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 31 October 19 23:48 GMT (UK)
Deals are softwood boards, usually pine or fir.

I remember reading somewhere that deal wood was named after Deal in Kent.  How true it is, I'm not sure.

Gadget
Title: Re: Stealing Deal Board
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 01 November 19 08:11 GMT (UK)
From the OED
. A slice sawn from a log of timber (now always of fir or pine), and usually understood to be more than seven inches wide, and not more than three thick; a plank or board of pine or fir-wood.
The word was introduced with the importation of sawn boards from some Low German district, and, as these consisted usually of fir or pine, the word was from the first associated with these kinds of wood.

The first reference is from 1402.

Stan
Title: Re: Stealing Deal Board
Post by: Galium on Friday 01 November 19 08:47 GMT (UK)
Those old fashioned kitchen tables, with turned legs and a plain pine board top are also called "deal tables". 

Title: Re: Stealing Deal Board
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 01 November 19 08:58 GMT (UK)
From Middle English dele (“plank”), from Middle Low German dele.
Title: Re: Stealing Deal Board
Post by: Kiltpin on Friday 01 November 19 10:06 GMT (UK)
The point being that the 5 planks represented a given number of man-hours for seasoning, cutting to size, dressing, transporting and who knows what else. All those man-hours had to be paid for, plus the possible cost of coal at the sawmill. Even today, 5 ready to use planks from B & Q will cost you £10. 

Regards 

Chas
Title: Re: Stealing Deal Board
Post by: confusion on Friday 01 November 19 11:14 GMT (UK)
There is also an old saying:

"As thick as a deal board".

This was used quite often by an old work colleague when he wanted to describe
someone who was stupid or had done something daft.

 :D :D :D :D :o
Title: Re: Stealing Deal Board
Post by: Top-of-the-hill on Friday 01 November 19 17:37 GMT (UK)
  My carpenter grandfather always called pinewood "deal".
  (My carpenter husband called someone not being very bright "thick as two short planks".)