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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wicklow => Topic started by: Erinsineadquinn on Monday 11 November 19 00:58 GMT (UK)
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Hi
Just starting off finding my ancestors and don’t know much. All I know is they originate from Wicklow, Ireland possibly in Bray. I can trace them back to my great grandfather Patrick Salmon who passed on 4th Jan 1984 and my great grandmother Alice Salon who passed on 23rd August 1966. I have found a gentleman by the name of Cornelius Salmon who married Mary Salon in 1904 but unsure if there is a connection. I am aware that there are still some ancestors living in Bray but wanted to go further back to understand my family tree. Any help would be appreciated
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Welcome to Rootschat
Were both deaths in Wicklow?
You don’t say how old Patrick and Alice were when they died. If they were born before 1911 you can look for them on the 1911 census which is free here
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
Depending when he was born here is a possible entry for Patrick
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Bray_No__2/Sidmonton_Avenue/892114/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003636464/
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Thanks for the quick reply
Yea both deaths where in Wicklow
I am trying to find more about Patrick’s parents, I am unsure if his father was Cornelius as I am unsure as to when Patrick Salmon was born I only know of his death, my nan who is still alive does not really disclose much information on her family history
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Welcome to Rootschat :)
In order to follow your direct line with confidence it's essential to gather up all official certs. from beyond what you know e.g. birth records which will give the mothers' maiden names/fathers' occs. & marriages which give fathers' names/occs/witnesses to enable you to work back.
There's no point in assuming who your ancestors are as it's a pointless task with no proof.
Welcome to the world of research ;D
Annie
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Alice was 51 in 1966?
So born about 1915
Birth Should be showing in Irish civil records, but I do not see it
Do you have the marriage certificate? (I am assuming Patrick and Alice were husband and wife, and not two separate lines of ascent?)
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I am unsure if his father was Cornelius as I am unsure as to when Patrick Salmon was born I only know of his death, my nan who is still alive does not really disclose much information on her family history
This is usually a sign (not always) of something amiss i.e. all the more reason to obtain earlier official certs.
Annie
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Alice Salmon nee Coughlin died 29 Aug 1966 Graystones, wife of Patrick, late of Golden Cashel Co. Tipperary, 1 Strand Cottage.
Redford Cemetary.
That should help find their marriage.
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http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/wicklow-redford-catholic03/target54.html
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Welcome to Rootschat
Were both deaths in Wicklow?
You don’t say how old Patrick and Alice were when they died. If they were born before 1911 you can look for them on the 1911 census which is free here
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
Depending when he was born here is a possible entry for Patrick
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Bray_No__2/Sidmonton_Avenue/892114/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003636464/
William? (as per Census above ?? )
In | Loving Memory of | WILLIAM SALMON | Arch Villas, Greystones | who departed
this life | February 16th 1981 | and his son | PATRICK | who departed this life
February 23rd 1991. | Interred in Bristol, England | R.I.P. | Erected by his
loving wife & family
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Party 1 Name CORNELIUS SALMON
Party 2 Name MARY DARCY
Date of Event 22 November 1903
Group Registration ID 2081000
SR District/Reg Area Rathdown
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You have the District (Rathdown) dates of Deaths.....just walk into any Registry office in Ireland and get them there and then.
€4.00 each for photocopy.
Then you'll get ages etc....
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The date of Salmon's marriage appears to be 1945 in Cashel
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FY2N-SQ9
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Salmon, Wicklow 1901 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01om4/
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Patrick from his probate died 65 Grove Cottages
Cornelius died 1944 same address
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1944/04640/4233180.pdf
Mary died Mater Hosp 1967 same address
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1967/04207/4075595.pdf
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Salmon Wicklow 1911 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01om5/
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http://search.freefind.com/find.html?si=13812782&pid=r&n=0&_charset_=UTF-8&bcd=%C3%B7&query=Salmon&s=wicklowstones
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Patrick Joseph 1904
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01797/1704858.pdf
Cornelius 1878 Father Patrick mother Margaret Hughes
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02967/2086970.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Bray/Newcourt_Strand/1811427/
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Patrick Salmon of Little Bray, son of ? Salmon and Jane Denbeigh married Margaret Hughes daughter of John Hughes and Helena ? 25th Nov 1861
number 104
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633720#page/12/mode/1up
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To get all in Salmon registered Rathdown on Civil Reg a search like this will get them all.
Some with Returns Page No don't have Images at present, but you can check back every now and then to see if any are Updated, even every 6 months using Link below.
LINK http://www.rootschat.com/links/01om6/ Select Births or whatever you want.
Solve security Captcha and use Initials to sign in. Irish Govt BDM Website, Certs are Free.
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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
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Edward Salmon 1875
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03081/2129818.pdf
married Elizabeth Byrne in New York 1907
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24HG-FJZ
was home for 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Bray_No__2/Newcourt_Strand/891954/
wife and daughter with her family 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Bray_No_1/Styles_Terrace/891464/
went back and had 3 more children by 1920
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJYX-8XK