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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: sue smith on Tuesday 12 November 19 11:03 GMT (UK)
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Bit of a long shot but here goes!
Looking to trace any descendants of Archibald Bertram Edgar Pengilly of Parkes, NSW, Australia (1917-1964) and his sisters Margaret Almina Micklewright (nee Pengilly) (1920-1960) and Mary Ellen Pengilly (1921-2007).
Margaret’s children (Margaret / Sharon b 1951 and Pamela b approx 1953) moved to England with their father after her death. Am researching on behalf of one of their family and would love to make contact with Australian connections.
I know Leonie (Archibald’s daughter?) was trying to trace Sharon and Pamela a few years ago but have been unable to make contact.
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Is this one related?:
PENGILLY Archibald Bertram Death notice 18 April 1959 Death 68 late of Canterbury Sydney Morning Herald 20 April 1959
Type 13 into small white box:
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19590420&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
PENGILLY Mary Theresa Death notice 21 Feb 1982 Death 91 late of Homebush Sydney Morning Herald 23 Feb 1982
Type 12 into small white box:
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19820223&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Buried together, Rookwood Catholic cemetery:
Pengilly Mary Theresa 91 25-2-1982 SEC*M2*20**2929
Pengilly Archibald B 68 20-4-1959 SEC*M2*20**2929
PENGILLY Archibald Bertram Edgar (Bert) Death notice 2 Nov 1964 Death 47 late of Sefton Sydney Morning Herald 3 Nov 1964
1st page:
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19641104&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
PENGILLY Madgalene Veronica Death notice 4 June 1984 Death formerly of Sefton Sydney Morning Herald 5 June 1984
Type 22 into small white box:
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19840605&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Buried together, Rookwood Catholic Cemetery:
Pengilly Madgalene Veronica 6 Jun 1984 66 LWN*2***969
Pengilly Archibald B E 4 Nov 1964 47 LWN*2***969
PENGILLY Mary Ellen (Ellie) Funeral notice 8 March 2007 Death 85 late of Parkes Parkes Champion Post 12 March 2007
Buried Parkes Cemetery. Headstone photo: https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=15554574
Jamjar
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Thank you Jamjar. The second Archibald (d 1964) is the correct guy and Magdalene was his wife. I’d traced their death records and Mary (his sister)’s headstone but hadn’t got the funeral notices or knew how to do it so that’s very helpful.
The first Archibald is a relation, I think his Uncle but can’t get NSW BMD’s to load today to check.
It’s the generations following I’m really after and of course trying to navigate Australian records which are closed for 50/100 years. Been PM’d a couple of resources so going to have a hunt there too. All much appreciated.
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I know that you are looking to connect with living relatives, but the more information put up here the more likely anyone looking for the same family connections, when doing a Google search, will find what they are looking for.
13402/1959 PENGILLY Archibald Bertram parents JOHN and MARY at CAMPSIE
5417/1982 PENGILLY Mary Theresa parents JOHN and AGNES MARY
Another maybe:
26646/1983 PENGILLY Eileen Mary parents JOHN and MARY
PENGILLY Eileen Mary Death notice 17-11-1983 Death 89 late of Wentworth Falls, formerly of Springwood Sydney Morning Herald 19-111983
Not available on Google SMH.
It’s interesting that no children were mentioned in the death notices for Archibald and Magdalene.
29055/1950 MICKLEWRIGHT Michael James to PENGILLY Margaret Almina KATOOMBA
28165/1960 MICKLEWRIGHT Margaret Almina parents THOMAS GILBERT F and JANE KATOOMBA
Margaret at Katoomba Cemetery:
Surname: MICKLEWRIGHT
GivenName: Margaret Almina
Cemetery: Katoomba
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Age: 34
Section: KRC2
Row: 5
PlotNumber: 4
DateDeath: 05-Sep-1960
PlotType: Monumental
Could these be the folks of Michael?
18413/1921 MICKLEWRIGHT John T to SMITH Lilian PARRAMATTA
MICKLEWRIGHT Lillian Death notice 6 Nov 1976 Death 81 late of Yagoona, formerly of Springwood Sydney Morning Herald 8 Nov 1976
1st page:
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19761109&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
32680/1969 MICKLEWRIGHT John Talbot parents PEMBERTON TALBOT and MARGARET PENRITH
MICKLEWRIGHT John Talbot Death notice 28 Aug 1969 Death late of Springwood Sydney Morning Herald 29 Aug 1969
Not available on Google SMH.
Jamjar
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There iis a probate packet for Archibald Bertram Edgar PENGILLY at NSW state archives http://www.rootschat.com/links/01omj/
I could photograph this for you next time I am there. It should contain a death cert, a will and other useful family info.
Ros
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I know that you are looking to connect with living relatives, but the more information put up here the more likely anyone looking for the same family connections, when doing a Google search, will find what they are looking for.
13402/1959 PENGILLY Archibald Bertram parents JOHN and MARY at CAMPSIE
5417/1982 PENGILLY Mary Theresa parents JOHN and AGNES MARY
Another maybe:
26646/1983 PENGILLY Eileen Mary parents JOHN and MARY
PENGILLY Eileen Mary Death notice 17-11-1983 Death 89 late of Wentworth Falls, formerly of Springwood Sydney Morning Herald 19-111983
Not available on Google SMH.
It’s interesting that no children were mentioned in the death notices for Archibald and Magdalene.
29055/1950 MICKLEWRIGHT Michael James to PENGILLY Margaret Almina KATOOMBA
28165/1960 MICKLEWRIGHT Margaret Almina parents THOMAS GILBERT F and JANE KATOOMBA
Margaret at Katoomba Cemetery:
Surname: MICKLEWRIGHT
GivenName: Margaret Almina
Cemetery: Katoomba
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Age: 34
Section: KRC2
Row: 5
PlotNumber: 4
DateDeath: 05-Sep-1960
PlotType: Monumental
Could these be the folks of Michael?
18413/1921 MICKLEWRIGHT John T to SMITH Lilian PARRAMATTA
MICKLEWRIGHT Lillian Death notice 6 Nov 1976 Death 81 late of Yagoona, formerly of Springwood Sydney Morning Herald 8 Nov 1976
1st page:
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19761109&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
32680/1969 MICKLEWRIGHT John Talbot parents PEMBERTON TALBOT and MARGARET PENRITH
MICKLEWRIGHT John Talbot Death notice 28 Aug 1969 Death late of Springwood Sydney Morning Herald 29 Aug 1969
Not available on Google SMH.
Jamjar
I’d not thought about helping others make connections by posting extra info / relationships. That’s a really good point!
Managed to confirm the first Archibald was the uncle of the Archibald whose family I’m trying to trace. 7 brothers and sisters from the uncles generation. I’m assuming that Leonie (perhaps short for Athlone), Warwick and Kristine (named on their Aunt’s headstone) are Archibald’s children but there may well be other siblings I’m not aware of.
Re Micklewrights: Mick Micklewright was born in England which is presumably why he took his daughters back there following his wife’s death. We are trying to trace any family who may know more about why that happened to get my friend some answers. Potentially have a lead for the presumed son of one of the 3 so hoping to follow that up.
Thanks again for all your help. Much appreciated.
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There iis a probate packet for Archibald Bertram Edgar PENGILLY at NSW state archives http://www.rootschat.com/links/01omj/
I could photograph this for you next time I am there. It should contain a death cert, a will and other useful family info.
Ros
That would be fantastic Ros. I’d be very very grateful. There is a very good reason behind me trying to track all this info down, so would really help!
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A pleasure to help Sue :)
Can you see any others that you would like? https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/
(just type their name into the main search box on home page)
Ros
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There was a Gilbert Francis PEGILLY born to Thomas and Mary who is buried in PEAK HILL, which is close to PARKES. He died aged 12, 1926:
https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=7671915#images
Not sure if I’m repeating information now, but I think this may be the mother at PARKES cemetery:
62206/1973 Mary Jane parents FRANCIS and BRIDGET ELLEN PARKES
https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=4493554#images
1835/1939 PENGILLY Thomas Gilbert Frederick parents William John Arthur and Mary CONDOBOLIN
Thomas Gilbert is buried in the Anglican section:
https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=4493553#images
Jamjar
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Well it had me confuddled, but VIC held the answer:
Mother Mary CRAZE father William John A PENGILLY - married SA: PENGILLY William John to Mary Adelaide 49/409 1862
Born SA: PENGILLY William John Arthur father Josiah PENGILLY Daly 79/555 1870
Died NSW: 5786/1910 PENGILLY William J A parents JOSIAH and CATHERINE KOGARAH
Obit: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article214128294
Born UK: CRAZE, MARY mmn PARKYN
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in REDRUTH UNION Volume 09 Page 263
Died NSW: 11587/1913 PENGILLY Mary W parents BETHUEL and LUCY CONDOBOLIN
Mary’s parent’s marriage UK:
Jun 1841 Redruth 9 292
PARKIN Lucy Slade
CRAZE Belhelell
Death VIC:
4531/1903 CRAZE Lucy Slade mother WALLACE father PARKIN at BENALLA aged 82.
Benalla Cemetery: Lucy CRAZE
Died/Interred: Fri 3rd Apr 1903
Age: 82 Years
Birth Year: 1821*
Late Residence:Benalla
Compartment:Methodist
Section: A
Plot Number: 129
Death notice SA, for Catherine PENGILLY, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article198380986
14942/1868 Alunina
Married: 6235/1891 PENGILLY Almina to TREMAYNE Gowan C NYNGAN
Died QLD:
1948 C634 Almina TREMAYNE father Pengilby
1919 C2400 Gowan Cuthbert Tremayne parents John Henry Tremayne and Sophia Nash
Children born Condobolin: 11096/1893 Gowan C died QLD 1975, 1910424/1894 John H died QLD 1953, 11824/1896 Unnamed female, 2449/1897 Almina Sophia (MCINTYRE, HINES) died QLD 1966, 29693/1899 Mary Isabella (STOWER) died QLD 1997, 2301/1902 Edith Ada (HOFFMANN) died QLD 1986, 21307/1904 Garnet (Garner) Evelyn died QLD 1919, 12533/1907 Agnes L (LANNAM) died QLD 1978, 1910 Albert George died QLD 1925, 1914 Frederic Arthur died QLD 2004
https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/mary-isabella-stower/320972
Mary married: 2937/1895 O'HALLORAN William to PENGILLY Mary CONDOBOLIN
Deaths: 1832/1939 OHALLORAN Mary parents WILLIAM JOHN and MARY CONDOBOLIN
17126/1934 OHALLORAN William 73YRS CONDOBOLIN (-FOLEY) CONDOBOLIN
Obit, Mary: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article214026699
Headstone photos: https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=9164484#images https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=9164486#images
https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=9164483#images
https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=9164482#images
https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=6981282#images
Children born Condobolin: 2589/1896 William J possibly died 8362/1985, 2565/1900 Edith K died 1993, 2450/1903 Rose (Derham) died 60006/1974, 11461/1904 James died 1924
14386/1870 Josiah Henry Alf
Married: 4057/1906 PENGILLY Josiah H A to FAULKS Rebekah C CONDOBOLIN
Died NSW: 26659/1943 PENGILLY Josiah Henry Alf parents WILLIAM JOHN ARTHUR and MARY CONDOBOLIN
25208/1954 PENGILLY Rebecca Charlotte parents ROBERT and ANNA CONDOBOLIN
Headstone photo, CONDOBOLIN: https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=9164658#images
21974/1872 Frank Edwin Albert
Married: 8730/1909 PENGILLY Frank E A to MURDOCH May NEWTOWN
Died NSW: 9363/1941 PENGILLY Frank Edward Albert parents WILLIAM JOHN ARTHUR and MARY BANKSTOWN
Children: 15630/1910 Almina A, 41375/1911 William J, 44430/1917 Ronald A
21522/1874 George Charles Herbert died VIC 10111/1877
6865/1877 James Edmund
Died NSW: 4720/1905 PENGILLY James E parents WILLIAM J and MARY CONDOBOLIN
10249/1879 Edith
Married: 9010/1902 PENGILLY Edith to FAULKS Robert J
Died: 18155/1964 FAULKS Edith parents JOHN and MARY MANILLA, 15245/1921 FAULKS Robert J parents ROBERT and ANNA
Headstone photo, MANILLA: https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=7258225#images
Children: 1905 Ivy E, 1913 Robert James Edmund died 2003, 1914 Mary E, 1916 Lilian M, 1918 Unnamed Female
10582/1881 George Charles Herbert
Married: 5662/1922 PENGILLY George C H to PARSONS Katherine I TAMWORTH
Died NSW: 27578/1960 PENGILLY George Charles H parents WILLIAM JOHN A and MARY MANILLA
Headstone photo, MANILLA: https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=7257228#images
20385/1883 Thomas Gilbert Frederick @ TUNG
Married: 13599/1913 PENGILLY Thomas G F to O'BEIRNE Mary J CONDOBOLIN
Died NSW: 1835/1939 PENGILLY Thomas Gilbert Frederick parents William John Arthur and Mary CONDOBOLIN
Child: 24416/1917 Archibald Bertram Edgar
15622/1887 Archibald Bertra (sic)
6952/1912 PENGILLY Archibald B E to ACKERS Mary T P PARKES
Died NSW: 13402/1959 PENGILLY Archibald Bertram parents JOHN and MARY CAMPSIE
Child: 47550/1912 William B
Jamjar
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Hey.
I am part of the Redruth Branch of the Craze family if you need any information :)