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Dear All,
I would like to find out the ship, route and date detail that took one of my deceased relatives to Canada and then the USA. It would be wonderful if you can solve this puzzle for me.
Herbert Grimwood was born in Jan 1867 in Yoxford Suffolk England (parents Joseph and Emily). Herbert died in Polk City Florida in Sept 1959.
I can find him on the 1881 census living at home in Suffolk and then he appears on a USA census in 1900 in Pennsylvania. I am sure he went via Toronto and spent some time there.
Herbert was a Preacher of the Gospel.
Would love to know his passage details and also when and how he moved into the USA
many thanks
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Ontario marriages show Herbert Grimwood of Yoxford England married Clara Jane Reid York Ontario - 20 June 1894 - Joseph Grimwood - Mother Emily Grimwood.
Clara Jane Grimwood passed away 13/7/1932 Ypsilanti Washtenaw Michigan. State Hospital was the informant.
FIND A GRAVE
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/138359490
Sandra
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Obit for second wife Helen Kohler (not what your asking but may be of interest) - Democrat and Chronicle Rochester, New York
26 Jun 1956, Tue - Page 20
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/38943811/helen_kohler/
Marriage - Herbert Grimwood - Wyandotte, Wayne, Michigan - 5 June 1933 - Helen Louise Kohler.
1900 census says he immigrated 1887. PA - He had applied for naturalization. Census information is only as good as the informants knowledge.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M3S1-4QV
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra.
I am truly stuck on when and how he travelled to Canada (which Ship etc). Would like to know similarly when he went into USA. I presume via Buffalo but I don't know that - its just guessing on my part.
You certainly have the correct Herbert and thank you. Both of your posts have the right guy. Spot on.
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Nothing that helps in the death notice/obit of daughter Ada (20 December 1897)
The Tampa Tribune Tampa, Florida 23 Jul 1969, Wed - Page 26
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/38946760/mrs_ada_littlewood/
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/38946805/mrs_ada_littlewood_column_2/
Tampa Bay Times St. Petersburg, Florida 23 Jul 1969, Wed - Page 28
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/38947286/ada_littlewood_column_1/
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/38947309/miss_ada_littlewood_column_2/
FIND A GRAVE
Fogartyville Cemetery Bradenton, Manatee County, Florida
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/29376629
Arch Mansell Reid born Canada 1890 and showing on the 1900/1910 is described as a brother. Obviously from a previous marriage of Clara Reid/Mills/
Sandra
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Herbert Grimwood and Clara may have visited England after there June marriage. There is a returning passenger list August 1894 (25/8) for H Grimwood (gent) and Mrs Grimwood (lady)
arriving Quebec on the Parisian.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra
You are a marvel uncovering this. Thank you.
Well we have a boat, it might be going the wrong way but it's huge progress.
I really appreciate what you are doing
Roger
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Earliest sighting of him so far in Pennsylvania -
Rev Herbert Grimwood was mentioned in an article Altoona Tribune
Altoona, Pennsylvania 2 Sep 1897, Thu - Page 1
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/38974391/rev_herbert_grimwood/
Sandra
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Moved from Lewistown to pastirate of Shirleysburg, Orbisonia, Saltillo and Three Springs Baptist Church.
Mount Union Times Mount Union, Pennsylvania 24 Mar 1899, Fri - Page 3
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/38974495/rev_herbert_grimwood/
Sandra
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Slightly earlier..............January 1897
MARRIED.
ARNOLD - McCORMICK. - At Wagner, Jan. 26, 1897, by Rev. Herbert Grimwood,
James C. Arnold and Anna E. McCormick, both of Maitland.
Democrat and Sentinel, Lewistown, Thursday, January 28, 1897
http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/mifflin/vitals/marriages/arnold-mccormick.txt
Just to mention. There is a lack of border crossing from Canada to the USA in that time frame. On ancestry they start from 1895, there would be many places to cross the border and not all were recorded.
Sandra
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Herbert had a brother Ernest who also immigrated to the USA.
U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index - Ernest Grimwood
Birth Date 26 Oct 1868 Yoxford, Suffolk - Father Joseph Grimwood Mother Emily Goodchild.
Sandra
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1920 census Philadelphia Ward 15, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Ernest is a lodger with the Thurn family in Philadlephia. Ernest born 1869 and 51 years old. Shop/Labourer - NA - single - immigrated 1890.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXSZ-5F1
Sandra
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There is a Pennsylvania Philadelphia Passenger List Index Card for Ernest of Yoxford Suffolk, born 26/10/1868 doesn't give alot of detail- says he landed in Philadelphia 2/5/1890 on unknown steamship.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:2:77TH-WKL1-L?i=4790&cc=1921483&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKFD7-ZBF
Sandra
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Ernst Grimwood aged 71 years, single on 1940 census Ward 10, Philadelphia, Philadelphia City, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQWP-L4G
Sandra
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Oh my goodness Sandra. This is incredibly interesting. I had no idea that a brother Earnest followed him to USA. Thanks too for the info on border crossings being sparse.
I read Herbert was a missionary but have presumed in his case that was not in far flung or remote lands.
Herberts dad. Joseph, is my 2 x great grandfather. He was an inspector of police in Suffolk. In those days think there was only a couple of them.
Isn't it incredible how diverse careers members of the same family had.
Appreciating greatly and much admiring your diligence. Inspiring and helpful research.
Roger
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You probably have this - There is an entry for Grimwood on find a grave Grimwood
Old Ipswich Cemetery Ipswich, Ipswich Borough, Suffolk.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/119112957
Sandra
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Yes that my 2 x great grandfather Sandra. Thank you