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Title: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: rchammer18 on Saturday 16 November 19 08:45 GMT (UK)
Hi, I'm looking for help and guidance tracing gt gt grandparents.
John Calleghan b 1877 co mayo. And his sister Mary b 1880. She emmigrated to usa, philly in 1898. Traced her till death.
Their fathrr was Thomas, but have been unable to trace location or his wife in co mayo.
Any ideas?
Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 16 November 19 10:45 GMT (UK)



Mary emigrated.... what did John do?




Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: Maiden Stone on Saturday 16 November 19 15:23 GMT (UK)
Have you found their birth registrations? They should have place of birth, father's abode & occupation + mother's maiden surname.
Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: rchammer18 on Saturday 16 November 19 19:03 GMT (UK)
John popped up in 1902 marrying Ruth gerard, thorpe derbyshire. Lived tgere til they died 1936ish.
Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: rchammer18 on Saturday 16 November 19 19:05 GMT (UK)
No sign of birth registrations. Know they were born co mayo, ireland and dads name was Thomas from Johns marr cert.
Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 16 November 19 19:12 GMT (UK)



http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Islandeady/Derryereeve/1604107/

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Only 3 Thomas in 50's 1901
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01on9/

Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 16 November 19 19:18 GMT (UK)



C Reg  Birth results for callaghan of Westport from 1876 to 1881

LINK http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ona/


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Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 16 November 19 19:23 GMT (UK)


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Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 16 November 19 19:34 GMT (UK)


On the Link posted you could change Criteria to one of the other districts for Mayo and do new Search



Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 17 November 19 15:41 GMT (UK)
John popped up in 1902 marrying Ruth gerard, thorpe derbyshire. Lived tgere til they died 1936ish.
Are you certain about year of birth for John and his sister? Flexibility regarding age was common. Some chose a convenient age. 
What was occupation of John's father and did it say if he was deceased on marriage certificate?
Did John put Mayo for place of birth on 1911 census?
Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 17 November 19 16:21 GMT (UK)
Widening age range there are these birth registrations with Thomas as father;
1881 Claremorris
1874 Tobercurry/Tubbercurry, abode Achonry, County Sligo near boundary with Mayo.
1873 & 1875 Sligo (in case the family moved early in John's childhood)
Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: rchammer18 on Sunday 17 November 19 21:55 GMT (UK)
Wow! Thanks for these. Ive only just ordered the marr cert to see what else is on it.
Co mayo is listed on the cert transcript along with 'Thomas'. So hopefully the transcript is accurate.
It'll be a few dAys til i cAn confirm then ill post again
Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 17 November 19 22:14 GMT (UK)


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Ordered what Cert?  The details are what is on Reg Cert.







Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 17 November 19 22:17 GMT (UK)


Glenamaddy https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1051


Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 18 November 19 13:29 GMT (UK)
Re. my reply #10. Those are only suggestions.
Did you calculate John's and Mary's birth years from marriage and death certificates and census? Age on marriage and death certificates, census, military records &c. around that time should be regarded as approximate. Ages of some of my Irish relatives were "approximate" to a decade.
What is the exact wording on the transcript of John's marriage certificate? What is the source of the certificate?
Have you seen Mary's death certificate and obituaries or death notices in newspapers for Mary and John? Obits may have information about origin, parents, siblings.
Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 18 November 19 13:34 GMT (UK)
John popped up in 1902 marrying Ruth gerard, thorpe derbyshire. Lived tgere til they died 1936ish.

Was John dead before 1939 ?
Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: rchammer18 on Tuesday 19 November 19 18:27 GMT (UK)
Maiden Stone: John died, 18mo after Ruth and his daughter, in 1937.

Wherever he states birthplace its consistently county mayo, ireland.

Mary age/dob is from USA census returns and again is consistent. She states on us census returns immigration 1898. Not seen any docs, just transcriptions so far.

I was reading last night that county boundaries in Ireland changed in 1898, so if they left Ireland before that what they called Mayo might have changed.

I'm not in same place as my files for a little while now. John was a farmhand from 1902 to 1936. His dob is calculated from 1911 census and marr cert transcript agrees.

I'm hoping gro marr cert copy may show res, fathers occupation and witnesses.
Title: Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
Post by: Owenwee on Tuesday 19 November 19 21:11 GMT (UK)
The death certs for Philadelphia are on Ancestry up to 1967 normally parents names included, when did your Mary die, was she married cant see a passenger list, have you found Naturalization Details.