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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: Seaton Smithy on Sunday 17 November 19 08:51 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone. I'm not sure what more information can be found for this query but it's worth a shot.
My 3GGM Sarah Jane Bennett married my 3GGF Thomas Benjamin Densley in the Wesleyan Methodist Church in Melbourne, Australia in 1845, although both bride & groom were shown as living outside of Melbourne in a small town named Lancefield.
There are no parents listed on the marriage record as this information was not required at that time. The witnesses were Thomas Reay of Lancefield and William Duffy of Melbourne but there is no known family relationship to the bride or groom.
When Sarah dies in January 1919 there are no parents listed on her death record, but it does state she was born in Spondon, Derbyshire. Her age listed on the death record is 94, although a newspaper death notice shows her as 92.
Many online trees show her as the Sarah Jane Bennett baptised in Spondon on 7 September 1829 with father John Bennett and mother Maria, but I think that Sarah is still in Spondon with her mother on the 1851 and 1861 census.
Sarah's children were Marianne Priscille (Priscille is a Densley family name), Dinah Elizabeth, William, Thomas, Henry, Charles, Sarah Jane and Benjamin James.
Any potential information about the origins of my Sarah Jane Bennett greatly appreciated.
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There is a baptism in Spondon St Werburgh for a Sarah Bennett 7 December 1828 with parents Charles and Jane. Charles is a Gardener.
Emeltom
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They also had their daughter Jane Bennett baptised there 28 Jul 1825.
Colin
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There is a baptism in Spondon St Werburgh for a Sarah Bennett 7 December 1828 with parents Charles and Jane. Charles is a Gardener.
Thank you. That's an interesting possibility given the name Charles doesn't appear in the 3GGF's family.
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Jane Bennet was buried St Werburgh's Church, Spondon, Derbyshire16 Jul 1835 age 38,
Her husband Charles was buried there 02 Aug 1836 age 39
There are other Bennet/t burials there on family search, neither of the girls already posted.
Colin
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Jane Bennet was buried St Werburgh's Church, Spondon, Derbyshire16 Jul 1835 age 38,
Her husband Charles was buried there 02 Aug 1836 age 39
There are other Bennet/t burials there on family search, neither of the girls already posted.
Thanks, Colin.
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Charles and Jane had a number of children.
The eldest Charles was baptised 1824 in Heanor, Derbyshire, the rest in Spondon.
Jane 1825, Joseph 1827 Burial 1838), Sarah 1828, Mary 1832, Emma 1833, the last was Maria was baptised 16 Jul 1835, the day of her mothers burial.
A Sarah Bennett was buried Spondon 1837, age 75 (1762) and maybe mother of Charles?
I’m not sure when Sarah arrived in Australia or if she went alone but I’m not having much luck finding the above children, who would be age 6 - 17 in 1841, except maybe Jane below?
Church Broughton, Burton upon Trent Derbyshire.
There is an 1841 census with Jane Bennett age 14, she is with John and Ann Bennett both age 30,
They have six children age 0 to 10, Jane is at the bottom of the list which makes me think she is not theirs?
Colin
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Church Broughton, Burton upon Trent Derbyshire.
There is an 1841 census with Jane Bennett age 14, she is with John and Ann Bennett both age 30,
They have six children age 0 to 10, Jane is at the bottom of the list which makes me think she is not theirs?
Yes, I thought that might be Jane as well.
The newspaper notice suggests Sarah came to Australia around 1844 but I cannot find a shipping record. I think the death record suggests an earlier arrival but it will be tomorrow before I can put my hands on that again.
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Good Luck, Colin
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Marriage;
18 May 1823, St Lawrence, Heanor
Charles BENNET, Bachelor
Jane RADFORD, Spinster
Both of the Parish
(FreeREG)
As for John Benn* in 1841 Census 1851 he is born c 1808 Foston, married Ann Bourne 1831 so looks like Jane is not their child as you thought.
John/Ann childrens Bapt are on FreeREG Church Broughton and there is no Jane to them.
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Thanks you all for that information.
I have created a quick tree for this family to see if there are any hints.
There are two trees for this family - I haven't checked any of this in any detail yet, but these trees show the son Joseph marrying Elizabeth Smith in Manchester in 1853 - he shows his father as Charles Bennett , Gardner and the 1861 census has Joseph Bennett born Spondon living in Chorlton upon Medlock, Lancashire, so this seems plausible. He goes on to die in Fairfield, Derbyshire in 1867 with children born in both counties.
The trees also show the Sarah Bennett buried in Spondon in 1837 as Charles' mother, and from the trees she appears to be Sarah Moss married to Joseph Bennet in Heanor in 1823. Perhaps the Joseph buried in 1838 is Charles' father?
Unfortunately, neither tree shows the fate of any of the other children.
A possible sighting for Mary in 1841 - Ancestry has a Mary Bennett age 9 indexed her on her own, but the image shows her living with William Grundy, joiner and his wife Sarah in Stanley.
I will continue to look into this family, but I wonder if this Sarah is too young to be marrying in Melbourne in 1845?
EDIT: The 1871 census has Charles Bennett born Heanor, Brother-in-law living with Elizabeth Bennett, Head in Fairfield, so I think we can rule out Charles going to Australia and taking younger siblings with him.
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Hi,
Am a bit late to this discussion but SJB is also my ggg grandmother. I've also seen the numerous Ancestry trees which link her to John and Maria Turton of Yorkshire, but have her born and baptised in Spondon, Derbyshire. Other trees have her in the 1851 census in Spondon as Sarah J Bennett-highly unlikely if she came all the way to Australia and was married in 1845. I also have her marriage cert which as you say, doesn't mention parents or place of birth. The death cert I have for her says parents are unknown, that she was was born in England, and had been in Victoria 82 years. The death notice inserted in The Age by her daughter only tells us she'd been in Victoria for 78 years.
So really, there seems to be no firm evidence as to where she was born, apart from England-which is frustrating. I have searched shipping records for Victoria and NSW and SA but couldn't find anything, although perhaps I've missed something...
KC