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Title: Eveline Axten
Post by: pgkelly on Monday 18 November 19 04:11 GMT (UK)
Im trying to locate information on my grandmother.  She was born in 1914 in the USA but migrated to England.  She had a boy in 1941 in Hunstanton, peter, and the moved to Newfoundland with her husband George that same year. 
Any info is greatly appreciated,
Paul
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 18 November 19 05:52 GMT (UK)
Hello Paul and welcome to Roots Chat  :)

Have you found Eveline on the 1939 Register? I can't post details her due to  copywrite but using a free search there is an Eveline J Axton living in Norfolk who may be worth looking at

You say Eveline was born in USA but there is a posssible baptism on Anc for her at 1 year old  in London at the same time as sister Blanche Margaret Scase Axten

Eveline Jean Axten
Birth 29 Jan 1914
Baptism 7 Mar 1915 St John, Ealing, Ealing
Father:    Victor William Waterfield Axten (a miner)
Mother:    Susan Axten

Kay
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 18 November 19 06:32 GMT (UK)
Hello Paul and welcome to Roots Chat  :)

Have you found Eveline on the 1939 Register? I can't post details her due to  copywrite but using a free search there is an Eveline J Axton living in Norfolk who may be worth looking at

You say Eveline was born in USA but there is a posssible baptism on Anc for her at 1 year old  in London at the same time as sister Blanche Margaret Scase Axten

Eveline Jean Axten
Birth 29 Jan 1914
Baptism 7 Mar 1915 St John, Ealing, Ealing
Father:    Victor William Waterfield Axten (a miner)
Mother:    Susan Axten

Kay

No Eveline on GRO, but:

AXTEN, BLANCHE  MARGARET SCASE mmn BARKE 
GRO Reference: 1915  M Quarter in BRENTFORD  Volume 03A  Page 309

Jamjar
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: amondg on Monday 18 November 19 06:36 GMT (UK)
The image on ancestry has USA written below the name Axten for both Eveline and her sister Blanche.
Although from BMD Blanche was born in England, mothers maiden name Burke.
I could find no entry for Eveline in BMD so likely born in New York.

Victor Axten married Susan Burke 27 June 1913 Brooklyn New York.

Victor was a sailor from his seaman's registration U.K. Royal Navy. born 6 November 1891 signed up in Ealing 1907 and served until 1913 his last ship was to New York. His character very good until the end where it has "run".
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 18 November 19 06:49 GMT (UK)
Two marriages:

1940 to Thomas A Moriarty https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV8K-VC5Q

Mar 1940 Fakenham 4b 902   
Axten Eveline J
Moriarty Thomas A

1941 to George E Kelly https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV8L-149Z

Mar 1941 Fakenham 4b 873
Axten Eveline J
Kelly George E

Jamjar
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: amondg on Monday 18 November 19 06:55 GMT (UK)
The address given on the baptism record of Alacross Road is the same as Victor's parents William Axten born Watford Herts and his wife Sarah Jane born Fransham? Norfolk  on 1901 and 1911 census of Ealing Middlesex.
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: amondg on Monday 18 November 19 07:00 GMT (UK)
William Axten married Sarah Jane Scase 1885 registered in Brentford, so that's where Blanche gets her 3rd name from.

Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: amondg on Monday 18 November 19 07:17 GMT (UK)
Queen Mary passenger lists 1942, 7 October arriving Boston

Eveline J Kelly born Brooklyn New York age 28
Peter E. D. Kelly born Hunstanton age 11 months

Page 2 nearest relative Aunt- Mary Axten, 205 Boston Manor Road, Brentford Middlesex.

Destination father in law Thomas Kelly 8 Gear Street St John's Newfoundland, next to Peter it has Thomas as Grandfather.
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: amondg on Monday 18 November 19 08:03 GMT (UK)
Can anyone see what happened to Victor and Susan Axten her parents?

Speculation
Her sister Blanche Margaret born 4 Feb 1915 seems to go by Blanche Margaret Burke 1939 and when she marries 1940 to a Robert J Hammond dies 1990 Eastbourne Sussex
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 18 November 19 08:09 GMT (UK)

Probate
Sarah Jane Axten  - age 77
Death Date 3 Jul 1941
Death Place
    Norfolk, England
Probate Date
    5 Dec 1941

She is listed as a widow


Sorry Victors mother not his wife :-\
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: pgkelly on Monday 18 November 19 22:49 GMT (UK)
Sincerely appreciate all the quick replies and great information.  I did happen to see the 2 marriages exactly 1 year apart but she still used her maiden name on her marriage to my grandfather. 
I eventually plan on making a trip over to England some time and would like to make contact with some living relatives.  Thank-you again!
Paul
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 19 November 19 08:07 GMT (UK)
Sincerely appreciate all the quick replies and great information.  I did happen to see the 2 marriages exactly 1 year apart but she still used her maiden name on her marriage to my grandfather. 

Have you looked at her entry for the 1939 register to see what other surnames are suggested for her. They update it when a woman marries.
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: pgkelly on Tuesday 31 December 19 01:52 GMT (UK)
I found out Eveline also had a sister or half-sister Olive.  She must have been born between 1910 and 1930 and I know she remained in England. 
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 31 December 19 22:18 GMT (UK)
Have you found when Victor and Susan died?
Do you think Olive might be Susan's daughter from a subsequent marriage, or Victor's daughter so maiden surname Axten?

Blanche is the only Axten/Burke showing on free bmd.
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: pgkelly on Wednesday 01 January 20 02:51 GMT (UK)
Eveline died in 1969 so I didn't know her. MY mom says she never ever spoke about her parents and only kept in touch with Olive in England whom she referred to as a sister and another "sister" in Ontario Canada.   My gut feeling...as she was living with Victor's parents and Victor had a sister olive that she really didn't know her parents and olive was actually her aunt
Are you a relation?
Paul
Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: chempat on Wednesday 01 January 20 09:45 GMT (UK)
No I am not a relation.

I am just trying to find out more about Olive.

Title: Re: Eveline Axten
Post by: pgkelly on Sunday 26 July 20 05:23 BST (UK)
Have you found when Victor and Susan died?
Do you think Olive might be Susan's daughter from a subsequent marriage, or Victor's daughter so maiden surname Axten?

Blanche is the only Axten/Burke showing on free bmd.

Both victor and Susan died in Eastbourne, 1979 and 1976 respectively.   Victor changed his name to burke, his wife's maiden name, at some point after 1915.