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Title: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: supernan on Sunday 24 November 19 15:26 GMT (UK)
I have only found Annie Howe (born 1868) West Ham/Bromley  mentioned on the 1881 Census living with her step-Father William Sawle and Mother Ann (Howe)
Annie was charged with Manslaughter in 1890 and served 5 years Penal Servitude.   Is there anywhere where I could find out where she served her sentence and where she ended up on her release.
Any information would be most helpful please.
supernan
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 24 November 19 15:38 GMT (UK)
William Sawle married Ann Howe in 1869 (Mile End RD)
In 1871 the family are all listed as Sawle
RG10 / 570 f154 p53

1881 she is still listed as Sawle
RG11 /494 f32 p5

Was she prosecuted in the name of Howe or Sawle  :-\
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: supernan on Sunday 24 November 19 15:49 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the swift reply
She was listed as Howe and her Case was heard at The Old Bailey in 1890 and
she served 5 years so would not have appeared on the 1891 Census
Many thanks
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 24 November 19 16:01 GMT (UK)
That is a sad tale.   

Old Bailey website has more information
https://www.digitalpanopticon.org/life?id=obpdef1-121-18901215
Tried 15th December 1890
Age 22. Marital status S. Place of birth London.
 
Tried at Old Bailey, London. Accused of murder (for, and charged on the coroner's inquisition with, the wilful murder of eliza ann howe.). Found guilty, manslaughter. Sentenced to penal servitude, imprisonment. Sentence outcome was imprisoned.

Granted prison license
11th July 1893
Age 25.

Discharged as habitual criminal
21st April 1894
Age 26. Marital status S. Place of birth London.

Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 24 November 19 16:04 GMT (UK)
Also on same weblink

Annie Howe
Licence number 8316
Trial year 1890
Trial month 12
Trial day 15
Tried at CCC
Sentence term 5
Term str 5
Additional information
Conditional
Prison Woking
...

Annie Howe
Gender f
Birth year 1868
Birthplace London
Marital status S
Height text 5 1
Height inches 61.00
Complexion ry
Hair colour au
Eye colour gr
Build prop
Shape of face oval

Appearance marks J W right and C P left forearm, F each upperarm, scar left thumb
Place Last Offence Stratford
Trial date 15/12/1890
Sentence 5 yrs.
Prison Elizabeth Fry Refuge
Date discharged 21/4/94
Declared destination on discharge 8, Channetea( ?) Ct. Stratford Essex
Occupation factoryhand
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: supernan on Sunday 24 November 19 16:08 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for all the information.  I was lucky enough to find the Old Bailey
details of the trial.  But could not find where they had sent her
I have been searching for this lady on and off for about 20 years and it was only
luck that my sister put in the name Ann Sawle that we found out that Annie was
illegitimate.  No wonder I would not find her birth.
Thank you, once again for all your help as I would never found out any more
supernan
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 24 November 19 16:10 GMT (UK)
The Old Bailey website has lots of links that you can click onto for their records though they are easy to miss.  ;D
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: supernan on Sunday 24 November 19 16:16 GMT (UK)
I will now go and see what I can find.
Thank you again for all your help
supernan
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 24 November 19 16:44 GMT (UK)
The court case which I have not read in full has near the end 'but you are Bill Chamberlains aunt' etc

Could it relate to this William Chamberlain

Marriage Sep qtr 1894   
William Chamberlain   
Annie Howe   
Mile End reg district    1c   675

The marriage image is on Ancestry - no fathers name given for Annie

Possible son

CHAMBERLAIN, WILLIAM  JOHN     mmn HOWE 
1898  Dec Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 13
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: supernan on Sunday 24 November 19 16:52 GMT (UK)
You are blowing my mind as I cannot record all the information quick enough
to keep up with you.
I believe William was the gentleman that Annie had been living with.  He was
not the father of her little girl.
Now I have even more information about Annie and really very pleased that
she got married as cannot imagine the strain that she had been under to drown
her daughter.
Many, many thanks for all this lovely information you have found for me
supernan
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 24 November 19 17:05 GMT (UK)
I think her story is really sad.

If that child was hers he did not survive
Births Dec qtr 1898   
Chamberlain    William John        W. Ham    4a   13    
Deaths Dec qtr 1898 
Chamberlain    William John    0    W. Ham    4a   7

I wonder if this is her in 1901.  Piece 1562 f79 p17 - 31 Livingstone Road, STRATFORD
The entry for the household cannot be right

John Chamberlain   24 - Head - Married - bn Bow Common
Maggie Chamberlain   23 -Wife - Married - bn Germany
William Chamberlain   33 -Son -Single - bn Broad Street, London
Annie Chamberlain   33 -Daughter - Single - bn Bromley
Mary Ann Chamberlain 59 - Mother -Widow - bn Buckinghamshire.

I think that William and Annie should show as Married.

Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: supernan on Sunday 24 November 19 17:11 GMT (UK)
I am sure this must be here as she was born 1868 in Bromley so that would be
correct  Just an error that they were marked down as single

My goodness poor lady to then lose her son as well.  Life was certainly hard in
that era.
I will let you have a rest now and a cup of tea
Many thanks again for everything
supernan
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 24 November 19 17:13 GMT (UK)
Not what we wanted to find so early in her life

Deaths Dec qtr 1908   
Annie Chamberlain   
age    40   
W. Ham reg dist    4a   15

From deceased online
Annie CHAMBERLAIN
burial  24 December 1908
location Newham
She appears to be buried with 17 others  :'(
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: supernan on Sunday 24 November 19 17:18 GMT (UK)
What a sad ending to Annie's story.
Thank you again
supernan
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 24 November 19 17:32 GMT (UK)
It just shows how little chance she would have had of help in those days, we have a lot to be grateful for.
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Howe please
Post by: supernan on Sunday 24 November 19 21:00 GMT (UK)
So true, every day must have been a struggle.
supernan