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Title: John Gatt Napoleonic War
Post by: ShaunWADonaldson93 on Tuesday 26 November 19 22:28 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for some help with a great uncle, he was born in Aberbour, Aberdeenshire, Scotland in 1781 he married Sarah Day who was born on the Isle of Wright in 1792, their married in 1809 at Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England. There is no death record for him because it was just before salutatory registration in Scotland but there is a headstone that Sarah erected to him reading

"Erected by Sarah Day, In memory of her Husband John Gatt, who died 11th July 1854 aged 74years. He entered his Majestys naval service in 1796, and returned in 1815 to his birth place the seatown of Pennan, where he resided the remainder of his life."

I have look up military records but can't seem to find any records that fits, another relation has suggested he serviced on HMS Superb but not sure what was behind that because I can find any records for him.

Any help would be appreciated! 
Title: Re: John Gatt Napoleonic War
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 27 November 19 00:11 GMT (UK)
Was he of Auchmedden ? and a mother named Janet/Genert?  If so, there is a  Royal Navy Allotment record dated 1800. It has little info.

Other similar records, 1805-1810, have him with a wife called Sarah, which fits.  He was an Able Seaman.

I'll look in more detail tomorrow as it's getting late but maybe others will find more for you by then.

Gadget
Title: Re: John Gatt Napoleonic War
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 27 November 19 00:15 GMT (UK)
This listing puts Auchmedden in the parish of Aberdour

https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/aberdeenshire-os-name-books-1865-1871/aberdeenshire-volume-02/17

Gadget
Title: Re: John Gatt Napoleonic War
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 27 November 19 00:21 GMT (UK)
I've just found his pension and service record in the British Royal Navy & Royal Marines Service And Pension Records.
I'll look through them  and  get back to you.

Gadget
Title: Re: John Gatt Napoleonic War
Post by: ShaunWADonaldson93 on Wednesday 27 November 19 00:34 GMT (UK)
Was he of Auchmedden ? and a mother named Janet.Genet?  If so, there is a  Royal Navy Allotment record dated 1800. It has little info.

Other similar records, 1805-1810, have him with a wife called Sarah, which fits.  He was an Able Seaman.

I'll look in more detail tomorrow as it's getting late but maybe others will find more for you by then.

Gadget

He was of Pennan in the parish of Aberdour but I have just had a google and Pennan is at the foot of a cliff and at the top there is a church which is the church of Auchmedden so it is possible but I wouldn't be certain, are there any further personal details we can go on?
Title: Re: John Gatt Napoleonic War
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 27 November 19 10:10 GMT (UK)
Apart from census, marriage and monumental inscription, I can only find the Allotment (Pay book) Records: 


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Name: John Gatt; Ship's name: HMS Circe; Pay book number: SB 407; Rank: Able Seaman; Relation: Mother Genert; When Alloted: 1800; Remarks: Not stated.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C12196357


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John Gatt; Ship’s name: HMS Andromeda; Pay book number: SB 72; Rank: Able Seaman; Relation: Wife (name not given); When Allotted: 1812; Remarks: Discharged invalided (date not given).

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16558925


Anther allotment record of April 1811 lists him as an Able Seaman, Ship - HMS Implacable, Wife - Sarah
Title: Re: John Gatt Napoleonic War
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 27 November 19 10:51 GMT (UK)
Pension records show that the last ship he served on was Gladiator.
Title: Re: John Gatt Napoleonic War
Post by: ShaunWADonaldson93 on Thursday 29 October 20 23:37 GMT (UK)
Apart from census, marriage and monumental inscription, I can only find the Allotment (Pay book) Records: 


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Name: John Gatt; Ship's name: HMS Circe; Pay book number: SB 407; Rank: Able Seaman; Relation: Mother Genert; When Alloted: 1800; Remarks: Not stated.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C12196357


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John Gatt; Ship’s name: HMS Andromeda; Pay book number: SB 72; Rank: Able Seaman; Relation: Wife (name not given); When Allotted: 1812; Remarks: Discharged invalided (date not given).

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16558925


Anther allotment record of April 1811 lists him as an Able Seaman, Ship - HMS Implacable, Wife - Sarah

The HMS Circle wrecked 17 November 1803 so he must have served on another before he appears on the HMS Andromeda in 1812. It would be really interesting to know if he would have been at the Battle of Trafalgar
Title: Re: John Gatt Napoleonic War
Post by: ShaunWADonaldson93 on Thursday 29 October 20 23:37 GMT (UK)
Pension records show that the last ship he served on was Gladiator.

Do you have a link to the records please?
Title: Re: John Gatt Napoleonic War
Post by: tonepad on Friday 30 October 20 06:54 GMT (UK)
The National Archives has the Trafalgar Ancestors database. A search of the database reveals two men named Gatt, neither of which seem to be your man. There is roughly a one in six chance that a sailor in the RN in 1805 served in the Battle of Trafalgar.

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/trafalgarancestors/


Tony
Title: Re: John Gatt Napoleonic War
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 30 October 20 09:55 GMT (UK)
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Pension records show that the last ship he served on was Gladiator.

Do you have a link to the records please?



https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FADM22%2F382%2F00045&parentid=GBM%2FGREP%2FNAVY%2F00281732
Title: Re: John Gatt Napoleonic War
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 30 October 20 10:04 GMT (UK)
The Gladiator was a flagship that never left port so presumably that was a notional posting for his time as an invalid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Gladiator_(1783)