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Title: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: History Lives on Sunday 01 December 19 18:55 GMT (UK)
Robert and Emma Jones were both born in Hope, Flintshire, and had completed 36 years of marriage as of the 1911 census where they were in Buckley. This places their marriage in 1874 or 1875. Their children were as follows:

Arthur Francis Jones: 1878
Jane Jones: 1880
Catherine Jones: 1882
Mary Jones: 1883
Edith Jones: 1886
Emily Jones: 1886
William H Jones: 1889
John Jones: 1892

All born in Flintshire.

I would appreciate if someone could show me how to find Emma's maiden name and find a marriage record for the couple. I believe Robert's father was also a Robert Jones if this helps.
Title: Re: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: brigidmac on Sunday 01 December 19 19:09 GMT (UK)
Researching Jones in Flint is very hard

Any other clues such as agedprofession exact address etc ?

I have Jones marrying other Jones
But you should be able to get emma #( I meant Jane).s maiden name from children's birth records ... do you have any exact birthdates ? Maybe obtain  them from 1939 registration
Title: Re: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 01 December 19 19:13 GMT (UK)
Hope would come under the Chester Registration District:  so possible

Arthur Francis - September quarter 1879 - Chester - mmn = Youde

Catherine - 1882 - Chester - Youde
Title: Re: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: JJen on Sunday 01 December 19 19:16 GMT (UK)
Arthur Francis Jones
q3 1879, Chester
Vol 8a Page 437
Mother's maiden - Youde

Jane Jones
q3 1880, Chester
Vol 8a Page 450   
Mother's maiden - Youde

Catherine Jones
q1 188, Chester
Vol 8a Pager 436
Mother's maiden - Youde


Marriage -

Robert Roberts Jones
q2 1878, Chester
Vol 8a Page 579
On the same page is Emma Youd(e)

JJ
Title: Re: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: History Lives on Sunday 01 December 19 19:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks, much appreciated. How were you able to find mothers maiden name from birth records? FreeBMD says this wasn't included on birth records until 1911
Title: Re: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: JJen on Sunday 01 December 19 19:22 GMT (UK)
A few more births -

Edith Jones
q2 1886, Chester
Vol 8a Page 440
MMN - Youd

Emily Jones
q1 1885, Chester
Vol 8a Page 409
MMN - Youd

Mary Elizabeth Jones
q3 1883, Chester
Vol 8a Page 409
MMN - Youd

JJ

 
Title: Re: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: JJen on Sunday 01 December 19 19:25 GMT (UK)
Register (free to do so) to use the GRO website to enable searches of births with mother's maiden names. Death are also searchable for the age at death.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

JJ
Title: Re: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: osprey on Sunday 01 December 19 19:29 GMT (UK)
marriage by licence 3 April 1878 parish church of Treuddyn
Robert Roberts Jones 25 bach farmer Tanyr Owen Hope parish father Edward Jones farmer
Emma Youd 22  spinster Ffrith farm  father John Youd farmer
witnesses Philip Griffiths & Jane Youd
Title: Re: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: History Lives on Sunday 01 December 19 19:36 GMT (UK)
Great, will sign up on GRO.

Thanks again

Charlie
Title: Re: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: osprey on Sunday 01 December 19 19:54 GMT (UK)
Emma was baptised in Hope 27 April 1856 daughter of John, farmer, and Sarah Youd of Hope Lane End.
Title: Re: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: pb_devon on Monday 02 December 19 08:26 GMT (UK)
Thanks, much appreciated. How were you able to find mothers maiden name from birth records? FreeBMD says this wasn't included on birth records until 1911

The record has mmn, but the indexes didn’t until 1911, which is what the freeBMD work from. GRO data is from the certificates, hence can capture more info. Hope that clarifies things.
Title: Re: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: brigidmac on Monday 02 December 19 13:12 GMT (UK)
I have aDNA connection with someone who has Elizabeth Owens b1810 Chester who married Thomas Youd b 1802 Flint
So  we are probably distantly related thru them
I.ll see if I can work out the connection.
Title: Re: Searching for marriage of Robert Jones and Emma, in 1874 or 1875
Post by: brigidmac on Monday 02 December 19 14:02 GMT (UK)
Have you seen this post re the YOUD name ?

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=243166.msg1325963#msg1325963

(Ps my mum's DNA matches 3 trees with YOUD two are closed and the other only dates back to 1890 John  YOUD b camaerthan flint + Lorahmaa Evans  whose mother was Matilda jones not helpful to your current question ...sorry )