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Title: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: Fisherman on Sunday 01 December 19 23:07 GMT (UK)
In 1851 George is listed in the home of his grandparents, Thomas and Elizabeth (who are transcribed as Sackett), HO107/1997/421.
This is the only positive information I can find. I cant find a birth record or any record of him in later census returns. There is a possible death in 1910.
One of Thomas' sons William or George is probably his father. There is death for a William in 1841, otherwise I can't find anything on these two either.
Am I missing anything?

Any help at all would be gratefully appreciated.
Fisherman
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: maddys52 on Sunday 01 December 19 23:53 GMT (UK)
I think this might be George and family in 1841 in Portway Rd, Wednesbury (none born in county):

Thos Sockett             48
Elizabeth Sockett     48
Willm Sockett           27
Jane Sockett             20
Mary Sockett           14
Rebecca Sockett       8
George Sockett        3
William Hickman    21
Joseph Griffiths      14
Samuel Griffiths     12

H0107/ 984/33 pg 30

(I'm thinking this is the family, apart from the names and ages, as John HARVEY in the 1851 with the family is born in Wednesbury.)

Though is George the son of Jane?  :-\
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: maddys52 on Sunday 01 December 19 23:58 GMT (UK)
Although there is this baptism in Tipton:

21 May 1837  George son of Thomas (moulder) and Mary SOCKETT of Bridge Row.

Not the right George as he appears with his parents in the 1851 at Tipton.
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: Fisherman on Monday 02 December 19 00:07 GMT (UK)
Maddy,

That's them in 1841.
I've also thought that George might have been an illegitimate son of Jane.

Thanks
Fisherman
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: Fisherman on Monday 02 December 19 00:09 GMT (UK)
Maddy,

I don't think the Tipton family is right.

Fisherman

Added
Just noticed you have discounted them.
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 02 December 19 00:09 GMT (UK)
Does George (21) marry Caroline STRINGER (20) at Oakengates, Shropshire 30 May 1858 - notes father William SOCKETT.

This George and Caroline can be found in subsequent censuses in Gateshead, Durham where he is noted as born Shropshire.
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: Fisherman on Monday 02 December 19 00:16 GMT (UK)
Maddy,

You might have found him  :D :D
There is a death for a William in 1840. That would account for him being with his grandparents in '51.

Many Thanks
Fisherman
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: Fisherman on Monday 02 December 19 00:26 GMT (UK)
Maddy,

Oakengates is quite near Wellington so looks even more promising.

Fisherman
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 02 December 19 01:06 GMT (UK)
That's good, shame I can't find a baptism. Will keep looking ...  :)
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: Annette7 on Monday 02 December 19 02:49 GMT (UK)
Per FindMyPast - George Sockett bp.1/2/1838 St. Georges, Shropshire, son of William and Maria (William an Iron Roller).

The above place is listed as his birthplace on 1901 census.

Annette
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: Annette7 on Monday 02 December 19 03:29 GMT (UK)
William Sockett bp. 24/3/1813 Wellington, son of Thomas and Elizabeth (of Ketley).

However, George's father cannot be the William died 1841 as this was only an infant - William with his parents and George in 1841 but can find no further trace of him, nor anything for wife Maria.

Annette

Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: Annette7 on Monday 02 December 19 03:52 GMT (UK)
Possibilities?? - a William Sackitt (?) married a Maria Phillips 25/12/1835 Wolverhampton, Staffs. plus there is a death for a Maria Sockett aged 30 in Mar.qtr.1841 West Bromwich, Staffs. (just before the census).

I note that Shifnal was one of the birthplaces given by George on a census pre 1901 (can't remember which one offhand).   Just seen there is a birth for George Sockett in Mar.qtr.1838 Shiffnal Union, and mothers maiden name is Phillips.

Annette
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: Annette7 on Monday 02 December 19 04:14 GMT (UK)
A Mary Sockett birth reg'd Dec.1839 West Bromwich - mmn Philips.   Her death is in the same quarter and listed on Ancestry as Mary Sockatt.

So looking like the 1835 marriage may well be the right William and Maria i.e. William moved to Staffordshire after George's birth where a daughter was born/died 1839 plus wife Maria dying early 1841 and William returned with young George to his parents. 

Annette 
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: Fisherman on Monday 02 December 19 12:39 GMT (UK)
Annette,

I think that we have sorted the mystery of George out.
It just throws up the question of his father William, what happened to him???

Thank you to you and Maddy for your time and work.
Fisherman
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 02 December 19 21:21 GMT (UK)
There is a death registration for a William SEGGATT aged 30 at Blofield in Jun 1845 - I know this is a long way from home, but I can see no other record for William SEGGATT (or similar) born c1815. A possibility? I guess you could only discount for certain by buying the certificate, unless some kind soul can find the burial which may contain more info.  :-\
Title: Re: George Sockett b Wellington c1839
Post by: Fisherman on Monday 02 December 19 22:31 GMT (UK)
Maddy,

Thanks for that.
Might be a coincidence but a distant cousin of William in the Manthorpe line was from Blofield!!
Will check it out.

Fisherman