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Hi
I originally asked for a look up BUT I now have a conundrum . Catherine Bate (Nee Harrison) died Crossley Street (no number) January 1861 - I cannot find her Husband Thomas or her 2 older sons Henry and Thomas anywhere on the census. The youngest child Peter is with his grandparents on Pinners Brow. However on Crossley Street is a Thomas Whittaker - widower, right age, occupation and place of birth - with 3 sons all right names and ages Henry, Thomas and Peter BUT why on earth is the name Whittaker - any ideas ?
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Can you give date & places of birth of her husband and sons, plus Thomas' occupation.
There's this Bate family
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
12, Crossley Street, Warrington, Lancashire & Cheshire
Ellen Bate Head Widow 1802 Laundress Wales
William T Bate Grandson 1859 Warrington, Lancashire
EDIT - reference number RG09 Piece number 2793 Folio 87 Page 16
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Any relation to your Bate family?
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
3, Crossley Street, Warrington, Lancashire & Cheshire
Richard Bate Head 1834 Railway Bricks Man Appleton, Cheshire
Ann Bate Wife 1837 Fustian Cutter Warrington, Lancashire
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Duplicate post https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=822369.new#new
Stan
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For anyone else looking here's the 1861 census with surname WHITTAKER - certainly appears to be same family
Piece: 2793 Folio: 89 Page Number: 20
4 B.K Crossley Street
Thomas Whittaker 46 Widow Fustion Cutter
Henry Whittaker 10
Thomas Whittaker 8
Peter Whittaker 5
all born Warrington
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The GRO index has no Henry Whittaker registered 1850 +/- 2years, but there are two Henry Bate, mother Harrison
BATE, HENRY HARRISON
GRO Reference: 1849 S Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 20 Page 888
BATE, HENRY HARRISON
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 20 Page 996
Stan
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for info. 1871 census Piece: 3907 Folio: 55 Page Number: 12
Pinners Brow
Henry Harrison 63
Elizabeth Harrison 63
James Harrison 29
Ann Harrison 18
Alice Alford 31 Dau
William Alford 1 Grandson
Henry Bate 19 grandson
Peter Bate 15 grandson
EDIT
on 1881 census at 56 Pinners Brow
Peter is dittoed as nephew of Henry & Elizabeth :-\
Piece: 3797 Folio: 92 Page Number: 12
Henry Harrison 73
Elizabeth Harrison 73
Alice Leigh 66
Joseph Orford 46
William Orford 11
Peter Bate 25 Warrington
Alice Golding 21
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Is this father Thomas' death entry?
Thomas BATE age 52
Death quarter 2
Death year 1867 Warrington Lancashire Volume 8C Page 118
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Thank you all so much for your responses - really appreciated - Carrol
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Had a thought - does anyone think the Whittaker may be the moderator mis-heard Widower ? probably me grasping at straws here
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It is a common myth that a census enumerator knocked on doors and asked who was present, and then wrote down the details, often miss-hearing, or miss-spelling. When the enumerator collected the schedules all he had to do was to to examine the schedule in order to satisfy himself that it had been correctly and completely filled up.
Stan