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Title: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: carhoglucan on Thursday 05 December 19 15:41 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have finally obtained my great grandparents marriage certificate 12th June 1892 Richard McCann from Portarlington and Anne Bowers in Mountmellick (thanks to you 8 years ago!)and delighted to find my great great grandfathers names Peter McCann and Thomas Jas Bowers on it. Can anyone advise how I could delve deeper into these links?  I am particularly interested in the Bowers side as Anne according to family lore ran away as an arranged marriage was made for her (she is possibly Church of Ireland).. she met Richard at the train station and ended up marrying him.

I grew up being told that her family where well to do and from Rathmines in Dublin however an old neighbour told me she was a country woman possibly from Tipperary.  The census mentions Tipperary and Kildare where they lived and also Kilmainham.  I have nothing else to go on and would love to get to the bottom of who her family is.  Any help or information would be appreciated.
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 05 December 19 15:44 GMT (UK)
Have you looked for them on the 1901/1911 Irish censuses?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

If you click on the Year - there are other censuses you may find them on but perhaps not as much available as on the 1901/1911
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 05 December 19 16:26 GMT (UK)
I have finally obtained my great grandparents marriage certificate 12th June 1892 Richard McCann from Portarlington and Anne Bowers in Mountmellick........

Linked for everyone to see.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10635/5875093.pdf

KG

Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: carhoglucan on Thursday 05 December 19 18:22 GMT (UK)
CaroleW...Yes I have both census.  Kiltaglassan thank you for attaching the marriage certificate.  Hopefully someone will throw some light on it.

Many thanks.
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 05 December 19 18:51 GMT (UK)
CaroleW...Yes I have both census.  Kiltaglassan thank you for attaching the marriage certificate.  Hopefully someone will throw some light on it.

Many thanks.

Can you give us a link to them, or tell us where they were so we can find them.
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: athacliath62 on Thursday 05 December 19 19:09 GMT (UK)
CaroleW...Yes I have both census.  Kiltaglassan thank you for attaching the marriage certificate.  Hopefully someone will throw some light on it.

Many thanks.

Can you give us a link to them, or tell us where they were so we can find them.

in 1901 at Clonkeen, Co. Kildare (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Carbury/Clonkeen/1438174/) ?
in 1911 same location (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Carbury/Clonkeen/540923/) ?

 
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 05 December 19 19:29 GMT (UK)
in 1901 at Clonkeen, Co. Kildare (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Carbury/Clonkeen/1438174/) ?
in 1911 same location (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Carbury/Clonkeen/540923/) ?

Nope......

Richard McCann married Ann Delaney in 1900.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10347/5766898.pdf

Mary McCann born 1902 at Clonkeen (MMN Delaney)    #228
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01920/1744365.pdf

KG

Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: dathai on Friday 06 December 19 08:21 GMT (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Usher_s_Quay/Rowserstown_Lane/63917/
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: dathai on Friday 06 December 19 08:36 GMT (UK)
Mc Cavan in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/New_Kilmainham/Park_Street/1290116/
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: dathai on Friday 06 December 19 09:14 GMT (UK)
Thomas Bowers and Jane Minorgan 1872
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11316/8152259.pdf
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 06 December 19 09:20 GMT (UK)
Good finds, dathai  :)

Son Richard born 1896 in Kildare town, MMN Bowers.    #263
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02163/1819737.pdf

KG

Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: dathai on Friday 06 December 19 10:00 GMT (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Wood_Quay/Upper_Clanbrassil_Street/1347566/
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: carhoglucan on Friday 06 December 19 10:38 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much!!  You have made my day.  Delighted with this extra information.
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 06 December 19 11:06 GMT (UK)
You're very welcome  ;D

Patrick 1893 at Nenagh, Tipperary MMN Bowers    #110
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02314/1867226.pdf

Jane 1895 at Kildare MMN Bowers    #146
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02230/1840613.pdf

KG

Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: dathai on Friday 06 December 19 12:47 GMT (UK)
Noticed there was  Caroline McCann as witness to the marriage
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Portarlington_South/Cooltederry/1647275/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Portarlington_South/Cooltederry/790063/

Peter McCann a railway porter died 1889 Cooltderry age 87 still married with wife Jane as informant
316
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1889/06140/4754213.pdf
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: dathai on Friday 06 December 19 13:26 GMT (UK)
1866 James McCann of Peter McCann a railway porter and Jane Mulpeters
278
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03528/2298467.pdf
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 06 December 19 16:51 GMT (UK)

Deaths of Richard's siblings.
Rose Anne 1921    #113
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05083/4395063.pdf

Caroline 1921    #112
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05083/4395063.pdf

Both in the same year and just one month apart.  :( :(

William before them in 1920     #69
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1920/05129/4412381.pdf

Cooltedery townland
https://www.townlands.ie/laois/portnahinch/lea/portarlington/cooltedery/

KG


Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: carhoglucan on Friday 06 December 19 18:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks to both of you for taking the time and to quickly respond and provide a wealth of information on both branches of my family.  Because of you I was also able to find another set of great grandparents from the bower marriage cert that you forward Daithi and more children from Kiltaglassan.

I wish you both a very happy Christmas.  You have certainly made mine.
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 06 December 19 19:58 GMT (UK)
I wish you both a very happy Christmas. 

And a very merry Christmas to you too  ;D ;D

If you need more assistance, just post!  8)

KG
Title: Re: McCann family Portarlington
Post by: NMurphy on Wednesday 29 September 21 11:00 BST (UK)
HI Im not sure if Im doing this right, I am new here. I have just started to trace my family tree and I discovered Richard McCann from Railway Ave, is my Great Great grandfather. His daughter Annie McCann married Thomas Burke and they are my Great Grandparents, their daughter Margaret Keogh is my grandmother.
I wasn't sure of the name of Richards wife but I see now from your search that it is Anne Bowers, Thank you.

NMurphy


Hi

I have finally obtained my great grandparents marriage certificate 12th June 1892 Richard McCann from Portarlington and Anne Bowers in Mountmellick (thanks to you 8 years ago!)and delighted to find my great great grandfathers names Peter McCann and Thomas Jas Bowers on it. Can anyone advise how I could delve deeper into these links?  I am particularly interested in the Bowers side as Anne according to family lore ran away as an arranged marriage was made for her (she is possibly Church of Ireland).. she met Richard at the train station and ended up marrying him.

I grew up being told that her family where well to do and from Rathmines in Dublin however an old neighbour told me she was a country woman possibly from Tipperary.  The census mentions Tipperary and Kildare where they lived and also Kilmainham.  I have nothing else to go on and would love to get to the bottom of who her family is.  Any help or information would be appreciated.