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Title: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: oldohiohome on Saturday 07 December 19 15:37 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the birth, parents, etc, for Mary Francis Sloan, born 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, Michigan. She died as [Catholic] Sister Mary Agatha Sloan, December 18, 2005, in Charleston, South Carolina. The exact date and place of birth is from her obituary.

She is living with James and Ellen T (Prunty) Sloan in Charleston in 1930, age 17, born in Michigan, father in Ireland, mother in Michigan.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SPHP-76D

When Ellen (Prunty) Sloan died, Sis M. Agatha Sloan was her informant, and was callled her niece.

If she is a true niece of James Sloan, then Mary Francis' father could be named John, Patrick, William, or Joseph, all born in Liverpool, England, between 1855 and 1865, and the 1930 census is incorrect regarding her father's birthplace.

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What I already have:
1) Mary Francis Agatha Sloan's online obituary, which names nieces and nephews. I couldn't find a Sloan connection there.

https://www.legacy.com/amp/obituaries/charleston/16044677

2) Ellen and James Sloan's death records and obituaries. Ellen's obituary names nieces and nephews including Mary Francis. But the others are on the Prunty side.

3) James Sloan's baptism and that of 5 siblings in Liverpool, along with their parents' church marriage record, and probable 1861 census.

Thank you,
Ed H
Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: jorose on Saturday 07 December 19 17:04 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

Could you list all the siblings of James Sloan for us? We might have some luck determining if any of them were living in Michigan around 1912.

The children listed as nieces/nephews may not have been Sloans if Mary had half-siblings.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K49M-26R
 - Nick Minarich, possible father of some of the listed nieces/nephews, was born in Michigan
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL9S-41VF
 - specifically Hermansville

I'm also having trouble finding Nick/Nicholas on the census.

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/celia-montalbano-obituary?pid=2653405
 - Celia Montalbano nee Minarich listed as "Dear sister of Sister Mary Agatha O.L.M."

Ditto for her for earlier censuses or parents... :(
Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: oldohiohome on Saturday 07 December 19 17:25 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

Could you list all the siblings of James Sloan for us? We might have some luck determining if any of them were living in Michigan around 1912.

The children listed as nieces/nephews may not have been Sloans if Mary had half-siblings.

Thank you for responding, I should have included them. All baptized in Liverpool:

John Sloan, born 18 April 1855
Patrick Sloan, b 15 November 1856
William Sloan, b 16 November 1863
Joseph Sloan, b 20 December 1865

There was also a Thomas Sloan, birth registered March Quarter of 1858, in West Derby and Toxteth Park, but I couldn't find him on the GRO page, so I don't know his mother's maiden name. I didn't find a baptism record for him, though.

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And I hadn't thought of half-siblings for Mary Francis Agatha Sloan.

Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: oldohiohome on Saturday 07 December 19 18:20 GMT (UK)


https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/celia-montalbano-obituary?pid=2653405
 - Celia Montalbano nee Minarich listed as "Dear sister of Sister Mary Agatha O.L.M."

Ditto for her for earlier censuses or parents... :(

my notes say that Celia's parents are
John Minarich (14 Mar 1903, Bellefonte PA - )
      both of his parents were born in Austria/Croatian
  + Helen Groarke (26 Feb 1898, Cloontubrid, Mayo IRE - 1966, Chicago)
      her parents: Pat Groarke and Catherine Dunne

They are rough notes. I will go back and get the sources, now that I am finding some more information about the family and the Hermansville location.

Celia's sister Mary Ann might have been called a niece in Sister M Agatha's obituary, or else they got Mary Ann's daughter's name wrong. Here is Mary (Minarich) Dausinas' obituary. She had no daughter Mary.  I can't name the one daughter's real name, because she is probably living.

https://legacy.suntimes.com/obituaries/chicagosuntimes/obituary.aspx?n=mary-a-dausinas&pid=20031786&fhid=2150
Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: oldohiohome on Saturday 07 December 19 18:23 GMT (UK)
Just looking at Helen Groarke's information, she was older than her husband. If she was actually even older than that, she could have married a Sloan first. Her parents' names come from the Civil Registration in Ireland, if I remember right.

The Sloans were not from Mayo, and as mentioned, had come through Liverpool before the US.
Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 07 December 19 19:10 GMT (UK)
The Social Security application for Celia Jean Minarich/Dosen/Montalbano b. 16 Dec 1913 Whiting Lake, Indiana and died 26 Sep. 2004 lists her parents as John Minarich and Mary Krazovich.
Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: shellyesq on Sunday 08 December 19 01:15 GMT (UK)
There is a Celia Veronica Minarich who was born 14 Oct 1935 in Chicago and died Aug 1982 who was the daughter of John Minarich & Helen Orourke (maybe Groarke was a mistranscription of Oroarke?) per her Social Security application.  Her death records are under the name Celia Ruzicka, and she died in Chicago. 

Perhaps there are two different Celia Minarichs who are getting confused for each other?

Looks like this was the death for Celia Ruzicka - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MJ-B44B  There are various birth & death records on Family Search for this family that have the mother as Hellen/Helen or Ellen O'Rourke.  This looks like John & Helen's marriage - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q21V-W62J
Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: oldohiohome on Sunday 08 December 19 10:48 GMT (UK)
There is a Celia Veronica Minarich who was born 14 Oct 1935 in Chicago and died Aug 1982 who was the daughter of John Minarich & Helen Orourke (maybe Groarke was a mistranscription of Oroarke?) per her Social Security application.  Her death records are under the name Celia Ruzicka, and she died in Chicago. 

Perhaps there are two different Celia Minarichs who are getting confused for each other?


My mistake, there were 2 Celia's, aunt and niece to each other.
Helen (Groarke) Minarich's petition for naturalization named 5 daughters including

Mary, b August 24, 1931
Celia, b October 14, 1935

Helen's daughter Mary is the "Mary Dausinas of Illinois" mentioned as a niece in Mary Francis (Sister Mary Agatha) Sloan's obituary.

The Celia (Minarich) Montalbano (Reply #1) whose obituary said she was the  "Dear sister of Sister Mary Agatha O.L.M." was a generation earlier, the daughter of John Minarich/Yunko Mlinaric + Mary Krazovich/Krznarich.

[Groarke is the correct spelling. It is on her petition as Groarke, and I have seen her birth record. I came across that name when doing my O'Rourke side.]

Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: oldohiohome on Sunday 08 December 19 11:00 GMT (UK)
After further research yesterday ...
The family of John Mlinaric/Minarich and Mary Krazovich/Krznarich arrived in Menominee County, Michigan, between 1908 and 1910, and were in Whiting, Lake County, Indiana, by 1913, when daughter Celia was born.

Here they are in 1910, before Nick and Celia was born. The oldest son, John, was the husband of Helen Groarke. Evano is with John and Helen in 1930.

1910 Census, Meyer, Menominee County, Michigan
April 27, 1910
[indexed as Mauch. name looks like Mlrich with a few unreadable letters above the "l"]

John Mlrich, 39, married 1x, for 10 years, born in Austria (Croatian), parents also, arrived 1890, naturalized, speaks English, laborer, lumber mill
Mary Mlrich, 30, married 1x, for 10 years, 6 children, 5 alive, born in Austria (Croatian), parents also, arrived 1898, speaks Croatian
John Mlrich, 8, born in Pennsylvania
Joseph Mlrich, 7, born in Pennsylvania
Rosa Mlrich, 3, born in Pennsylvania
Evano Mlrich, 1, born in Pennsylvania
Stephen Mlrich, 2m, born in Michigan

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLR8-DQV

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John Minarich/Mlinaric's death in Indiana in 1915:

Indiana Death Certificates
April 24, 1915
John Mlinarich
address 401 Stuber, Whiting, Lake County
married, age 48, a laborer
born in Harvatia/Horvatia, Austria
father: Matej Mlinarich, same birthplace
mother: Marey Karbich, same birthplace
informant: Marey Mlinarich, Whiting
cause: typhoid fever
buried: St John's Cemetery, Hammond, Indiana, April 26, 1915

[I found it on ancestry, it might be on familysearch, I didn't look]

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1920 John's wife Mary Krazovich/Krznarich with her second husband, and some children, including John and Celia:

1920 Census, Whiting, Indiana
January 5, 1920
at 312 119th Street

Bob Paradzina, 33, arrived 1913, papers pending, born in Austria (Croatian), parents also, stiltz cleaner, Standard Oil
Mary Paradzina, 40, unknown when arrived, alien, born in Austria (Croatian), parents also
John Mlynarycz, 17, son, single, born in Pennsylvania, shipbuilder, shipyard
Rose Mlynarycz, 12, daughter, born in Pennsylvania
Cecilia Mlynarycz, 6, born in Indiana
Frank Mlynarycz, 4, born in Indiana

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFWW-ZXV

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So the family was only in the Hermanville, Michigan, area for 4 or 5 years. During that time, presumably, they became close enough to Mary Francis Sloan, born 1912, in Hermanville, to call her a sister and for her to call their children nieces and nephews.

We have found five of the nieces and nephews mentioned in Mary Francis (Sister M Agatha) Sloan's obituary, and they are all grandchildren of John Minarich/Mlinaric   + Mary Krazovich/Krznarich. So this is definitely the right place for me to look.

I haven't found Mary Francis or Nick Minarich yet in 1920, it was getting late last night. I'm thinking she and the missing Minarich children are in an orphanage or home for children somewhere. - Also I plan to browse that 1910 Meyer, Michigan, census for Sloans.

Thank you everyone for the help.
Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: RJ137 on Sunday 08 December 19 16:23 GMT (UK)
In Nick's death notice he has a middle initial "F" listed.

Chicago Tribune
Chicago, Illinois
Saturday, April 20, 1968 - Page 126

Death notice: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/40260728/nicholas_minarich_death_notice/
Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: shellyesq on Sunday 08 December 19 21:35 GMT (UK)
An obituary for Rose Grosner, who died in Indiana in 1965, lists Sister Mary Agatha of Charleston, South Carolina as her sister.  Brothers listed were 3 Minarichs, and other sister was Mrs. Cecelia Montalvani.
Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: oldohiohome on Monday 09 December 19 00:15 GMT (UK)
Problem solved. From the Beck, Lund, Nechvatal, Mlinaric Tree at ancestry.com
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/151598239/person/352097256895/facts

Mary Mlinaric (Minerick)
1912
Birth 4 OCT 1912
Death Unknown

Fact Details
1919
Orphaned at age 7 to the St. Vincent Orphanage. At age 8 she was given to Janes and Ellen Sloan.

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The tree has nothing else on her. So it looks like the Sloans in South Carolina adopted her in a way, but she kept in touch with her siblings.

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For those interested,
This is the way she shows up on the 1930 Census, with the Sloans:
1930 Census, Charleston SC
Apr 1, 1930
at 315 East Bay
does not own a radio

James Sloan, 69, married 1st at 39, born in England, parents in Ireland, arrived 1887, naturalized, gear man, shipyard
Ellen Teresa Sloan, 65, married 1st at 35, born in South Carolina, parents in Ireland, no occupation
Mary Francis Sloan, niece, 17, single, born in Michigan, father in Ireland, mother in Michigan, stenographer, insurance office

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and in Ellen's obituary:
Charleston News and Courier, December 19, 1949
Mrs Ellen Prunty Sloan, widow of James Patrick Sloan, of 315 East Bay Street, died today at a local infirmary.
Surviving are ... four nieces ... Sister M Agatha, of Highston, N.J.

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And I found this along the way, from a grandchild of Nick Minarich:

"Back in 1982 when I was 13 years old, I went with my parents to a big Minarich family reunion in upper peninsula Michigan (above Wisconsin) in a town called Hermansville.

"My grandfather Nicholas was born circa 1911 (he never was quite sure of the year he was born!) and was one of some large number of 9(?) kids ...

"My immediate grandfather was unfortunately orphaned at a relatively young age, and it was his older sister Mary who ensured that the siblings, who were each placed in separate homes, all remained more or less 'in touch' with each other (Mary became a nun at age 15 and became ordained, if that's the right word, as 'Sister Agatha'). "

http://genealogyforum.katarincic.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114

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I might get in touch with the tree manager and/or the poster at genealogyforum and complete their records on Mary Francis (Sis. M. Agatha) Minarich Sloan.

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Thank you to everyone for the help which got me to focus on this Minarich family.
Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: oldohiohome on Monday 09 December 19 14:15 GMT (UK)
I might get in touch with the tree manager and/or the poster at genealogyforum and complete their records on Mary Francis (Sis. M. Agatha) Minarich Sloan.
I decided to let ancestry.com fend for itself, so here is a little more information about Mary Minarich/Sis M Agatha Sloan, in case a family member searches and finds this thread.

US Public Records - no date
Name: Mary F Sloan
Birth Date: 4 Oct 1912
Address: 424 Fort Johnson Rd
Residence Place: Charleston, South Carolina, USA
address of Sisters of Mercy (from Google)

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U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Mary Agatha Sloan
Social Security Number: 250-96-9533
Birth Date: 4 Oct 1912
Issue year: 1968
Issue State: South Carolina
Last Residence: 29422, Charleston, Charleston, South Carolina
Death Date: 18 Dec 2005

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Sr Mary Agatha Sloan
Birth    1912
Death    2005 (aged 9293)
Burial    Holy Cross Cemetery
James Island, Charleston County, South Carolina, USA
Memorial ID    33026353

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/33026353

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Thanks again to all.
Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: SueBeeMin on Friday 02 April 21 20:59 BST (UK)
I am the grandaughter of Nicholas Minarich (Mary Francis/Sister Agatha Sloan Minarich) who wrote the article about visiting Hermansville, MI with my family - including my great aunt - Sister Mary Agatha - whom we drove back to Chicago with us - for a reunion when I was 13 in 1984.

It seems in reading the thread that some folks may want to know about her parents/siblings, and I DO have a family tree that I wrote down AT and from that visit all the way back in 1984.  I have also found the original spelling and pronunciation of our last name (with special characters - will try to find so I can copy and paste here).

Firstly, the original, Croatian family name is as follows: 

So here it is:

The original Croatian name is 'Mlinacic' (special foreign character marks above both 'c's', both different): like the accent 'egiu' from the French 'a' on the first 'c,' and like a small 'u' over the second 'c.'  I learned this from someone who was directly from that region of the world what the original spelling is, and the meaning is the English equivalent of "Miller.")

Mary Francis Sloan's parents names were:  Mary Mlinacic - maiden name Krznarich, and John ('Yunko' in Croatian) Mlinacic.

Her siblings - in birth order - were:  John, Rose, Ivan, Joseph, Nicholas, Stephen, herself (Mary), Cecelia, Frank, and 'infant' (unnamed).

I hope this helps!

PS - I had absolutely no idea as to the extent of her service to the public and God in establishing and managing the entire Charleston, SC Archdiocese schools in that area.  I'm very grateful to have had such a giving, impactful (to the community and other peoples' lives) and wonderful Great Aunt.  I wish I had known her better! 

What I can say is that she was brilliant.  And I was amazed even at age ~11-12 that she could mentally transpose and play a full (liturgical) piece on piano in any key, at will! 

God Bless you, Sister Mary Agatha!





Title: Re: Mary Francis Sloan, b 4 Oct 1912, Hermansville, MI, d 18 Dec 2005, Charleston SC
Post by: oldohiohome on Saturday 03 April 21 12:03 BST (UK)
Thank you for replying.
I had the hardest time figuring out where Mary Francis "Sloan" came from, because I was coming at it from the Sloan side. Your post at genealogyforum helped immensely.
Besides all that she did with the school system, she helped keep her family together which must have encouraged them in their lives.

Here is a bit more on James Sloan besides what has already been posted above, if you are interested. And I will post the picture that went with his obit.

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James Patrick spent much of his early life at sea, dating his immigration into the United States at 1887. He was naturalized in 1896, and married Ellen Theresa Prunty, in Charleston, South Carolina, on November 30, 1902. Ellen was born in South Carolina to parents born in Ireland. James worked for the Clyde-Mallory Steamship Company in their shipyard. He died February 28, 1946, in Charleston. He and Ellen had no children.