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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northamptonshire => Topic started by: harrygeorge1 on Wednesday 11 December 19 16:12 GMT (UK)
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I am researching my husband's Rowlett ancestors.
I am trying to find a marriage between Edward Howlett and Elizabeth Howsden sometime before 1857.
I have found a wedding in April 1840 between Edward and Elizabeth Hammington Northamptonshire vol 15 pg 495 and this seems to be the only marriage other people have on the well known ancestry website. The same people have this Elizabeth dying in 1899.
On ordering Edward's son James's birth certificate 1st January 1857, Edward is the dad and mother is Elizabeth Rowlett formerly Howsdon, residence Castor.
I know sometimes mistakes are made with spelling etc when transferring these records but there is a big difference between Hammington and Howsden.
Edward is on the 1851, 61, 71 and 81 censuses living with an Elizabeth.
So did Elizabeth Hammington die earlier and Edward then marry Elizabeth Howsdon at some point making it her who died in 1899?
There were 4 children born inbetween 1840 and 1848 then a 6 year gap (unless I haven't found all children) then another 4 inbetween 1854 and 1860. could the gap be where the marriage was.
Am I missing something?
kind regards Andrea.
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Have you checked whether Hammington was a previous married name for Elizabeth née Howsdon?
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The other common scenario is the use of a stepfather’s surname.
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There were 4 children born inbetween 1840 and 1848 then a 6 year gap (unless I haven't found all children) then another 4 inbetween 1854 and 1860. could the gap be where the marriage was.
The children born 1840 - 1848 all have mother's maiden surname Howsdon.
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Have you checked whether Hammington was a previous married name for Elizabeth née Howsdon?
Hadn't thought of that, but the Elizabeth in the censuses is 13 years younger than Edward.
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There were 4 children born inbetween 1840 and 1848 then a 6 year gap (unless I haven't found all children) then another 4 inbetween 1854 and 1860. could the gap be where the marriage was.
You have missed Thomas born 1850 and William born 1851 :-\
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There were 4 children born inbetween 1840 and 1848 then a 6 year gap (unless I haven't found all children) then another 4 inbetween 1854 and 1860. could the gap be where the marriage was.
The children born 1840 - 1848 all have mother's maiden surname Howsdon.
which tallies with James's mum's maiden name.
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There were 4 children born inbetween 1840 and 1848 then a 6 year gap (unless I haven't found all children) then another 4 inbetween 1854 and 1860. could the gap be where the marriage was.
You have missed Thomas born 1850 and William born 1851 :-\
Thomas died 1850, William died 1859.
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There were 4 children born inbetween 1840 and 1848 then a 6 year gap (unless I haven't found all children) then another 4 inbetween 1854 and 1860. could the gap be where the marriage was.
You have missed Thomas born 1850 and William born 1851 :-\
thank you. X I assumed William died before 1860 because they had another William in 1860.
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I think I have found the wedding I am looking for,
Edward Rowlet (dropped a t) and Elizabeth Housden jan 1/4 1840 vol 15 pg 433.
x
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That marriage took place in Maxey P.C.
Pg 7, No. 13
03 03 1840
Edward Rowlet, of full age, widower, labr, Maxey, father Thomas, labr to
Elizabeth Housden , of full age, Spinster, Maxey, father John, shepherd
Both signed their marks.
Sandy
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There is a possible bap for Elizabeth in Helpstone P.C.
May 17th 1818
Elizabeth dr of John & Mary Howsden, Helpstone, Labourer
Sandy
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I think I have found the wedding I am looking for,
Edward Rowlet (dropped a t) and Elizabeth Housden jan 1/4 1840 vol 15 pg 433.
Which goes to prove that you shouldn't always believe what you read on family trees on
the well known ancestry website.
:D
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That marriage took place in Maxey P.C.
Pg 7, No. 13
03 03 1840
Edward Rowlet, of full age, widower, labr, Maxey, father Thomas, labr to
Elizabeth Housden , of full age, Spinster, Maxey, father John, shepherd
Both signed their marks.
Sandy
Thank you. I will have to find out who he married before Elizabeth.
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I think I have found the wedding I am looking for,
Edward Rowlet (dropped a t) and Elizabeth Housden jan 1/4 1840 vol 15 pg 433.
Which goes to prove that you shouldn't always believe what you read on family trees on
the well known ancestry website.
:D
I do only use it as a hint really, I have seen many errors shared between people and they must spend ages researching the wrong family. Sometimes I can't seem to look on the right websites or records to find the information I need. I appreciate everyone's help.
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There is a possible bap for Elizabeth in Helpstone P.C.
May 17th 1818
Elizabeth dr of John & Mary Howsden, Helpstone, Labourer
Sandy
Thank you. x
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hi i have Edward Rowlett and Elizabeth hammington in my tree
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hi i have Edward Rowlett and Elizabeth hammington in my tree
Hi Clare, Edward and Elizabeth are my husband's 3x great grandparents, how are they related to you? Please feel free to message me.
Andrea.
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Hi, I have the marriage certificate for Edward Rowlett and Elizabeth Housden. It states Edward is a widower and Elizabeth is a spinster so a previous married name is ruled out. Also Edward and Elizabeth Housden are married in March 1840 and Edward Rowlett and Elizabeth Hammington were married in the April May June Quarter of 1840. As Elizabeth Housden is listed as the mother on all of the children's birth records have her listed as their mother. I have been wondering if Elizabeth Hammington might not be marrying a different Edward Rowlett! I am the great great great grandaughter of Edward and Elizabeth Housden through their daughter Ellen/Eleanor Rowlett.
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I have been wondering if Elizabeth Hammington might not be marrying a different Edward Rowlett!
Elizabeth Hammington didn’t marry Edward Rowlett at all. They are a red herring for the purposes of this thread, but just to clear them up I looked at FreeREG, and they pair up as follows:
Edward Rowlett marr Eleanor Ringham, 27 Apr 1840 St Guthlac’s, Crowland, Lincs
Elizabeth Hammington marr Charles Frisby, 25 May 1840 St Guthlac’s, Crowland, Lincs
All four of these individuals are among the eight names listed under the registration ref Jun qtr 1840 Peterborough 15 495.
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Hi, I have the marriage certificate for Edward Rowlett and Elizabeth Housden. It states Edward is a widower and Elizabeth is a spinster so a previous married name is ruled out. Also Edward and Elizabeth Housden are married in March 1840 and Edward Rowlett and Elizabeth Hammington were married in the April May June Quarter of 1840. As Elizabeth Housden is listed as the mother on all of the children's birth records have her listed as their mother. I have been wondering if Elizabeth Hammington might not be marrying a different Edward Rowlett! I am the great great great grandaughter of Edward and Elizabeth Housden through their daughter Ellen/Eleanor Rowlett.
Hi, my husband is the great great great grandson of Edward and Elizabeth through their son James.
Do you know who Edward married 1st, to make him a widow?
please feel free to message me.
Andrea