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Title: George Hudson
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 03 January 20 13:15 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I am looking for the parents of George Hudson b1857 in Devon . He is in the 1871 census in Widecombe in the moor as a servant aged 13. He marries Elizabeth Jane Parsons in 1877 in Plympton
,had 5 children and dies in 1885 aged 28. I looked for him around ten years ago and thought I’d look again, but still can’t find his parents.His first two children Lottie and Russel,ended up in Wales ,but I can find no connection there, his other 3 stayed with mother . The fifth child may have been base born when she was widowed. I could do with some help. His wife remarried a ‘Newsom’.
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 03 January 20 13:24 GMT (UK)
Marriage names his father as George Mason occ Mason

ADDED
1881 has his place of birth as 'Widdicombe' age 24
1871 states born Plymouth
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 03 January 20 13:32 GMT (UK)
Marriage names his father as George Mason occ Mason

ADDED 1881 has his place of birth as 'Widdicombe' age 24
Thanks, is that George Mason or Hudson? I have never found the birth or baptism of George Jnr anywhere or any further details of the father or a marriage for the father
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 03 January 20 13:34 GMT (UK)
Sorry, George Hudson occ Mason
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 03 January 20 13:38 GMT (UK)
Thanks, are there any further clues on the marriage, such as witness names?
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 03 January 20 13:53 GMT (UK)
I wonder whether he is actually George Hodson (bn Torpoint) who is in Stoke Damerel in 1861 with his 'unmarried' mother Susan Hodson.
RG09/1448 f35 p28

In 1851 Susan Hudson is a servant in Plymouth.
HO107/1879 f292 p23

1841 Susan Hudson is living in Torpoint, still with the family she is servant to in 1851.  She is with her parents there - Her father is George though he is a shipwright
HO107/135 bk1 f20 p31
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 03 January 20 14:06 GMT (UK)
This looks like a possible, could be a misspelling, as for the occupation of father who knows? I often toyed with the possibility of an illegitimate birth
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 03 January 20 14:08 GMT (UK)
Hi -Snap
I was typing when the previous stuff was posted

Have you seen this 1861 census in Plymouth?
7 Trafalgar Crt Stoke Dameral
Susan Hodson 25 plain needle woman Portsmouth
George 5 scholer Torpoint Cornwall
Annie Hodson sister 22 plain needle woman Portsmouth
Sophia Hares cousin 18 millner Portsmouth


All the young women are unmarried so if it is him George must have lied on his marriage certificate.
But the other censuses he is on give Widecombe and Plymouth.And his death in February 1885 gives an age of 28 which would suggest a birth of 1856 rather than 1857.

Susan was buried at Stoke Dameral 22.3.1865 age 28.Died March 19th at the Workhouse
She was buried as Susan Hudson.
On the 1851 she was an unmarried servant age 18 from Portsmouth at 17 Buckland St Plymouth.

The christening at Anthony chapelry Torpoint 5 Sep 1855
Benjamin George Hudson s of Susannah Hudson  Torpoint

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 03 January 20 14:20 GMT (UK)
This is the closest I’ve come to a possible, I often wondered why there was no birth record at all for a George Hudson in the time scale, so thought he may have another forename. Unfortunately ,none of his children’s names seem to reflect this family. I would have though Susan May have figured. I just don’t know, very frustrating, but still great help, thanks.
I previously asked for witness names on the marriage, any help there?
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 03 January 20 14:21 GMT (UK)
Also I am slightly concerned about a George Hudson dying in 1864, Stoke Damerell, could anyone find more in that please?
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 03 January 20 14:24 GMT (UK)
Hi
The George Hudson who died 1864 was buried 27 June 1864 age 72 years
Again he is of the Workhouse but he can't be the George born c 1855

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 03 January 20 14:30 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that, I can discount him, possibly her father?  I am grateful for this help believe me, I have been looking for so long
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 03 January 20 14:36 GMT (UK)
witnesses Walter Cooms & Jonathan ..?
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 03 January 20 14:37 GMT (UK)
Sadly no help then, but thanks anyway
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 03 January 20 14:46 GMT (UK)

The christening at Anthony chapelry Torpoint 5 Sep 1855
Benjamin George Hudson s of Susannah Hudson  Torpoint

Ciderdrinker
Birth Sep qtr 1855      
Hudson    Benjamin George   (no MMN on index)    
St Germans    5c   36
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 03 January 20 14:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 03 January 20 17:34 GMT (UK)
In the absence of anyone else that even remotely fits I might claim him!! My George is never referred to as Benjamin again, but I also can’t find a Benjamin anywhere ,so that’s good.
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 03 January 20 17:45 GMT (UK)
She is not calling him Benjamin when he is with her on the census either.  I wonder if that is a clue to his fathers name
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 03 January 20 19:33 GMT (UK)
You may be right, but she had a brother Benjamin if I remember rightly, doesn’t mean her fella wasn’t one too though. Sad story , she died so young and then so did her son, if indeed it is her son. Thanks for all your help thus far.
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 03 January 20 19:59 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I am looking for the parents of George Hudson b1857 in Devon . He is in the 1871 census in Widecombe in the moor as a servant aged 13. He marries Elizabeth Jane Parsons in 1877 in Plympton
,had 5 children and dies in 1885 aged 28. I looked for him around ten years ago and thought I’d look again, but still can’t find his parents.His first two children Lottie and Russel,ended up in Wales ,but I can find no connection there, his other 3 stayed with mother . The fifth child may have been base born when she was widowed. I could do with some help. His wife remarried a ‘Newsom’.

IN Russell's case it appears to be work related - joining the navy and ending up in Wales (by 1911 on the Helwick light ship)
Title: Re: George Hudson
Post by: NooshieW on Friday 03 January 20 20:11 GMT (UK)
Thanks, that’s a start, I haven’t a clue why the two eldest children were sent to Wales.