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Title: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: DJMPotts on Saturday 04 January 20 20:59 GMT (UK)
Visiting Scotland this summer and would like to find family. My great grandfather Alexander Corbett (Corbet, Corbitt) Miller was born in Caithness June 14, 1856. His father was James Miller and his mother was Barbara Corbet Miller. He immigrated to the US as a young teenager, became a dairy man, married Frances Lucinda Sellers May 18, 1881 in Birmingham, Alabama. They had at least 8 children, one was my paternal grandfather. The family lore was that Alex's mother died when he was a child and his father remarried and his stepmother and he did not get along so he became what we would call a merchant marine and sailed to America, jumped ship in New Orleans and worked his way up into northern Alabama. He did go home to Wick at some point to meet a younger half-brother, and it is archives or records of him and those relatives I would love to find.
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Sunday 05 January 20 05:27 GMT (UK)
Scotlandspeople has what looks like Alexander Millerís birth in Wick in 1856. Also what looks like his motherís death in Wick in 1863, aged 38. I think Alexander and his parents and 3 siblings are in Wick in the 1861 census. GROS ref 043/1 6/32.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records

You may be able to trace the family in the 1871 census too, though I canít immediately find them. (There are a lot of Millers in that area).
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: ColC on Sunday 05 January 20 10:09 GMT (UK)
The census returns for Wick 1841-1881 are on freecen.

1861 Wick Ė all born there. Itís looks like the family are scattered by 1871 see below.

MILLER   James   Head   35   Labourer Farm Servant
MILLER   Barbra   Wife   35   Farm Servant's Wife
MILLER   Wm           Son   9   Scholar
MILLER   Cathrine   Dau   7   Scholar
MILLER   Alexr           Son   4   -
MILLER   Thomas   Son   2   -

Death on SP as mentioned.
MILLER   BARBARA   38   MELVILLE   1863   Wick Burgh

If this was the birth of James?
MILLER   JAMES   JAMES MILLER/ELISABETH BRUCE   30/01/1824   Wick

This may be his death?
MILLER   JAMES   46   MMN = BRUCE   1870   Wick

Colin
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 05 January 20 11:34 GMT (UK)
Possible record for him on the 1871 census Wick Landward Caithness 
Alexander Miller age 14 years ( farm servant ) with a John Sutherland and family

Rosie

And a warm welcome to rootschat  :)
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: DJMPotts on Sunday 05 January 20 18:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for the replies! Sorry I did not include in my original post that Alex returned to the US after visiting Wick as an adult, and died in Birmingham AL USA (Homewood Jefferson County) Jan 3 1917 and is buried in the Miller family cemetery (we now spell our name Millar, I think my Grampa changed it in a pique after an argument with his dad, Alex.) I do think that is Alex in the 1861 and 1871 census references you cite. Your help is very much appreciated!
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 05 January 20 18:28 GMT (UK)
Can see all the records for him in USA ..What was his step mothers name ?

Rosie
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: DJMPotts on Sunday 05 January 20 21:41 GMT (UK)
Don't know step mothers name but he had a half brother named Dan, his father and step-mother's son, who Alex brought back to Alabama. Since Alex had jumped ship (merchant marine or British navy, the story changes) in New Orleans, he had to sneak out of the US, then come back in legally, 40 years after he originally immigrated, and he brought Dan with him. Dan was a tailor and also lived in the Birmingham, Jefferson County, Alabama, USA area.
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: ev on Sunday 05 January 20 22:42 GMT (UK)
Dan may have been born Donald Miller(b.1873) , mother Margaret Sutherland.
Think Dan/Donald married Euphemia Davidson in Scotland  :-\


ev
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: DJMPotts on Sunday 05 January 20 23:04 GMT (UK)
Interesting, my daddy was named Donald and nobody knew where that came from but it is such a common Scottish name. I have an 88 year old Uncle (Corbet Alexander Millar) who remembers an Uncle Dan Miller but can't tell me much about him except he was a small man (the Millar men are all big burly redheads). Wonder what happened to Euphemia if Dan/Donald came to the US around 1900? Dan would have been in his late 20's then, and Alex in his early 40's. My Uncle says Alex had been in the Scottish Army, went AWOL, hired onto a cattle ship to Amsterdam, joined the British Navy there and went AWOL in the US in New Orleans, and maybe changed his last name spelling to Millar from Miller to avoid being detected. Alex did not communicate with his family in Scotland, again from fear of being found by the authorities, but became a US citizen so he could go back to Scotland to visit, where he found the half brother Dan in Wick. Thank you very much for giving me that information about Dan/Donald and Euphemia.
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: Dundee on Monday 06 January 20 00:18 GMT (UK)
You always need to try and back up your family stories with facts.

Donald immigrated in 1905:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-81XM-9FS5

Euphemia and the children followed soon after (1907 according to the census).

Alexander and Frances returned to the USA from Scotland in 1908 (three years after Donald arrived) and he says he is a US citizen.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C95Y-P97H-W

1910/1920/1930 census for Donald (Daniel in 1910):

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RNN-S5G
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R67-WXC
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R44-3J1

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: DJMPotts on Monday 06 January 20 02:38 GMT (UK)
This is wonderful information, thank you so much. All my family knew about Daniel/Donald was that he existed and had come to the U.S. Interesting that there was an entire group of cousins that they had never heard of, living in the same town. The eldest grandchild of Alex, my aunt, died in 2013 at age 97, born in 1916 so she should have heard about Alex and Francis visiting and returning from Scotland, and Daniel immigrating in 1905 (which would have been big news), but I interviewed her repeatedly, and reviewed family Bibles, etc. to get names and dates, and neither she nor her younger siblings knew anything about 'Uncle Dan.' I can't thank you enough for connecting me to this 'arm' of the family tree.
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 January 20 07:45 GMT (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

Donald Miller - 8 March 1873 - 17 December 1941

Burial -     Elmwood Cemetery Birmingham, Jefferson County, Alabama.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/119151014

spouse Euphemia Davidson Miller - 2 Nov 1876 - 14 July 1924

Elmwood Cemetery Birmingham, Jefferson County, Alabama

son Donald D Miller - 1914 - 1965

Lee Memorial Park Verona, Lee County, Mississippi.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/146230809/donald-d_-miller

spouse - Hilda Usona Shumpert Miller - 30 August 1916 - 9 April 2009

Lee Memorial Park Verona, Lee County, Mississippi.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/146230850/hilda-usona-miller

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 January 20 07:48 GMT (UK)

Obituary for Donald Miller.......

The Birmingham News Birmingham, Alabama 19 Dec 1941, Fri  -   Page 51

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/41786772/donald_miller/

Sandra

Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 January 20 07:50 GMT (UK)

Death Notice - Elizabeth Miller

The Birmingham News Birmingham, Alabama 15 Jul 1924, Tue  -   Page 23

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/41786800/mrs_euphemia_miller/

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 January 20 08:05 GMT (UK)


John Davidson Miller son of Donald and Euphemia born 19 October 1902 Wick Scotland - died 6 November 1963 Miami - Dade Florida.

John served as a Staff Sergeant in Company C of the 1259 Georgia Engineer Corps Battalion during World War II.

FIND A GRAVE

Miami City Cemetery Miami, Miami-Dade County, Florida

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/37752117

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 January 20 08:11 GMT (UK)

Alexander Corbett Miller - A C Miller - son of Donald and Euphemia born 12 October 1906 died 12 April 1994
Last Residenceb35215, Birmingham, Jefferson, Alabama.

Married Mary Elizabeth Glaze 25 June 1927 Birmingham, Jefferson, Alabama.

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 January 20 08:22 GMT (UK)

Alexander Corbett Miller Jnr (now deceased) born 1938 - son of Alexander Corbett Miller and his ex wife (?) Mary Elizabeth Moffatt

The Birmingham News Birmingham, Alabama 16 Jun 1957, Sun  -  Page 54

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/41787187/alexander_miller_ii/


The Birmingham News Birmingham, Alabama 5 Sep 1957, Thu  -   Page 28

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/41787134/alexander_corbett_miller_jnr/


Alexander Corbert Miller28 August 1938 died 18 October 1992 - father - Alexander C Miller
Mother Mary E Glaze

Sandra
 
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 January 20 08:24 GMT (UK)

FIND A GRAVE - Elizabeth Miller Moffatt - 2 July 1909 - 4 Nov 1989

Elmwood Cemetery Birmingham, Jefferson County, Alabama.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/104264048

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: DJMPotts on Monday 06 January 20 12:34 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Sandra. This is amazing. All these great and great-great aunts and uncles,and cousins, many sharing the same first names as my known family. I notice when Alexander Corbett Miller Jr. got married, it was in a Catholic church, and my family are all Presbyterian, wonder if that caused the Miller mini-schism? Again, your work is much appreciated. I can't wait to share it with my family members who also love genealogy. The family is huge. The Alex Corbet Miller who was born in 1856 in Wick had 8 children, one of them, my grandfather William Thomas Millar, had 11 children, one of which was my father, so I grew up with a hoard of cousins. Also, interestingly, my dad's brothers all had daughters so my two brothers were the only men to 'carry on the Millar name', and they had daughters, too! But it turns out, with Alex's half-brother Dan, the male line actually continued (although the spelling is now Miller.) That little 'e' to 'a' change in the name spelling caused me and my cousins a lot of grief growing up - all sorts of weird pronunciations, not to mention screwed up job applications, pay checks, email addresses and so forth. Many thanks for the information!
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 January 20 14:45 GMT (UK)
This was a daughter of Donald and Euphemia - Margaret M Seale 3 July 1904 - 15 November 1988 -
burial - Elmwood Cemetery Birmingham, Jefferson County, Alabama.

FIND A GRAVE

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193619499

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 January 20 14:47 GMT (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

Another daughter of Donald and Euphemia - Nancy - Nancy M O Neill - 24 February 1896 - 26 October 1998

Elmwood Cemetery Birmingham, Jefferson County, Alabama.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193619596

spouse Edward J O Neill 29 August 1899 - 27 June 1972

Elmwood Cemetery Birmingham, Jefferson County, Alabama.

son Edward J O Neill - 1 May 1935 - 2 May 2003

Elmwood Cemetery Birmingham, Jefferson County, Alabama.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193622384/edward-j-o_neill

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 January 20 14:53 GMT (UK)
This might help you connect with more cousins.


Wedding of a daughter of Edward and Nancy - 26 June 1959

The Birmingham News Birmingham, Alabama 26 Jun 1959, Fri  -   Page 25

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/41792976/margaret_ann_oneill_daughter_of/

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 January 20 14:55 GMT (UK)
This was the husband of the daughter of Edwrad and Nancy - "M.A"  - Walter Treutlen Berry - 21 February 1931 - 27 November 2015

https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/homewood-al/walter-berry-6691622

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: DJMPotts on Monday 06 January 20 17:37 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much, Sandra. I have shared what I have learned so far with my sibs and cousins and everybody is pretty amazed at our 'lost' family (or maybe they weren't lost, we were!)  :) 
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 07 January 20 17:43 GMT (UK)
Perhaps some long lost cousins will find this thread and join in.......it can happen quote often.

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: Alex MJM on Tuesday 01 December 20 12:32 GMT (UK)
There is such a vast Miller family around Wick, Caithness

My fathers family also is from there.

My father Anthony Miller, born 1940's in London
His father Edwin Miller (twin of George), born 1908 in Wales
His father John Leslie Miller, born 1878 in Edinburgh
His father John Miller, born 1839 in Wick
His father Alexander Miller born 1807 in Wick
His father Peter Miller born in Wick (farmer I think)

Feel free to reach out and connect. I live here in London, UK
Title: Re: Alexander Corbett Miller of Wick
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 01 December 20 14:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Alex, welcome to Rootschat...

It's a good idea to list the wives names/maiden names too as anyone doing a google search of the name will be directed here which can help you connect with more kin.

Annie

Add..It looks like you all connect with this post...
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=77496.0;topicseen