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Title: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: stonemonkey79 on Thursday 16 January 20 15:18 GMT (UK)
Hi!

I am looking for some information on a James Hill, born in Boston, Massachusetts in August 1773. The line goes pretty dead here. So far I know he married a Phoebe/Phebe Cossitt in 1798 after emigrating to Canada. Her line is pretty full for us. I do not know when or why James emigrated exactly.

What I am really after in some kind of parentage information. I have tentative details of a William and Rebecca Hill (nee Clements), but know nothing about them or where they came from ... England at some point

Please help!

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 16 January 20 15:32 GMT (UK)
Not sure if this might be you or it is another researcher...... ???

https://www.geni.com/people/William-Hill/6000000041091122596

a birth of William Hill to a John Hill and Mary 27 April 1739 Boston MA.

marriage of William and Rebecca was 21 August 1760 Boston MA according to Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records.

There is an anc tree with similar information on it but doesn't mention James HIll - mentions a daughter Ann Hill/Horner (1874 - 1853)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FH2N-95X

Sandra
Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: oldohiohome on Thursday 16 January 20 17:32 GMT (UK)
I found 2 births to a William Hill and Rebecca in the transcripts of Boston births:
John 29 Aug 1761
Mary 31 Mar 1763
then no more. I looked up to 1770.

So, did they move to Canada after Mary's birth?

And what part of Canada? If Nova Scotia, then maybe because the British were trying to fill up the land with Protestants loyal to the crown after they beat the French and started driving them out of Nova Scotia. I'm not sure if the situation in New Brunswick was the same.

My wife's family went to NS from the Boston area about 1770, then her line returned a century later.

Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: stonemonkey79 on Thursday 16 January 20 17:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you both!

I don't know when they moved to Canada, but I do know that John was born in 1773 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts. It was sometime after then. When he married in 1798, in Sydney, Cape Breton it was to Phoebe who was from New Hampshire orginally. Her family moved sometime between 1785 and 1789.
Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 16 January 20 17:58 GMT (UK)
Not sure if this would check out but it seems to indicate that daughter Mary Dumancy was born to Rev Rene Cossitt and Thankful Cossitt in 1789 Sydney, Cape Breton County, Nova Scotia. The previous 7 children born Sullivan County New JHampshire.

https://www.geni.com/people/Rev-Rene-Cossitt/6000000000682221378

Sandra
Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: oldohiohome on Thursday 16 January 20 18:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you both!

I don't know when they moved to Canada, but I do know that John was born in 1773 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.

How do you know John was born in Boston? What record is it on, birth, marriage or death?

The children's births, including John's, really should be there if they were in Boston, the Boston records for that time period are pretty good. I'm thinking someone said he was born in Boston because his family had come from there.

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Some of the family might have returned to Boston.

There is a Rebecca Hill who died 7 Sep 1813, Boston, age 75, of consumption. buried Central Ground, tomb of Wm Homer
buried 8 September, undertaker: Comfort Claflen


someone's notes at findagrave for this burial:
Gravesite Details There is a possibility that tomb number 127 (old no. 39) is William Holmer's tomb. It may be just two up from the other Holmer tomb. She may be the mother of Sally (Hill) Homer.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/107428167

Sally could be Anna, who is on a tree as having married a Mr Homer, see earlier reply.

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There is no William Hill in the index of Boston deaths where I found Rebecca, and it covered 1801 to 1848. One tree I saw said he died in Sydney, and another said he died in Boston.

There was a Wm Hill with a Revolutionary Army record in Boston too, mid 1770's but that could be another man.


Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: stonemonkey79 on Thursday 16 January 20 18:25 GMT (UK)
Sounds familar Sandra, thanks. :) :) :)

The Cossits are all pretty much sorted all the way back to France, they are pretty famous and have a living museum in Nova Scotia, and the reverand built St Georges church I believe ... it's the Hill side thats the problem ...  :( :(

As for knowing that John was born in Boston, I have an exact date of 27 Aug 1773. This is information I was given though, so I am looking for clarification and parentage, I'd love to find a birth entry or baptism record somewhere ...
Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 16 January 20 18:32 GMT (UK)


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FHM6-FRH
Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: oldohiohome on Thursday 16 January 20 18:38 GMT (UK)
One other question, what is the source for James' mother's maiden name, Clements?
Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 16 January 20 18:45 GMT (UK)
Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988
Rebecca Clements   Marriage   21 Aug 1760  -   Boston, Massachusetts
Spouse Name William Hill

Sandra
Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: oldohiohome on Thursday 16 January 20 19:05 GMT (UK)
There also might be an Anna Hill in this family, who also married a man named Homer:
      - Anna Hill (6 Sep 1773, Boston - 6 Sep 1853, MA)
     m 9 May 1797, Boston
   + Jacob Homer ( - 28 Nov 1815, Boston)
       bur 29 Chapel Ground, Boston on Dec 1

Anna's place of birth comes form her death record.
Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: oldohiohome on Thursday 16 January 20 19:26 GMT (UK)
You can find a list of the men named Clement(s)  who were in New England before 1700 in: A genealogical dictionary of the first settlers of the first settlers in new england, by James Savage. The first volume is here:

https://archive.org/details/agenealogicaldi00unkngoog/page/n8

It is an unusual enough name, so it is probably safe to say Rebecca is part of one of those families. But you need to figure out her father at least, before getting back to that list for sure.

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But Hill is too common a name to guess at.
Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: oldohiohome on Thursday 16 January 20 19:45 GMT (UK)
Most of the Clements births in Mass. in that time period were in Haverhill and Newbury, as found at familysearch.org. But no Rebecca.
One tree said she was the daughter of James and Anna (White) Clements, and christened in Boston in 1738, but no source.
A couple by that name did marry 20 May 1736 in Boston, but I didn't find any Clements births in Boston from 1737 to 1740. So did they move out?

The book of  Boston Marriages and births is on Google Books
marriages:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ovk/

births
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ovl/

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This might be a family where you just have to find the person who has done the research and hope they put it on line. Try looking for Clements family histories, google things like "Clements descendants, Boston" and other locations like Sydney, or other counties in Mass. It all could be on someone's individual website, and not at ancestry or familysearch.

You might find the Hills by finding the Clements.

Title: Re: James Hill b 1773 in Boston, Massachusetts
Post by: stonemonkey79 on Thursday 16 January 20 21:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all this information. I think there must be some date discepencies in the original information. You guys are amazing researchers!!   :D :-* :D

If only I could find my Great Great Grandfather George Denison from my Yorkshire branches - but alas, he disappeared ... I fear he will never be found!  ::) ::) ::) ::)