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Title: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: Diarmuidgannon1916 on Tuesday 28 January 20 12:45 GMT (UK)
Hi There
I am looking to trace the death of my grandfather X3 back ,joseph higginbotham, he was a clock maker and live in wexford, he had a shop wexford on the main street, he was born abt 1790 , and may have died between 1847/ 65 , he had son william born 1833 and died . 1904 , william is buried in crosstown cemetery, also known as saint ibars ,now I've found joseph on Griffin avuluation, but I've tried irish genealogy site but can't find a death , also ancestry. Com , I am guessing his birth as he had his shop on main Street wexford in 1821 , any help to find a birth and death for joseph I will be thankful , I've also check the parish records in ferns and can't find a Baptismal for joseph son william born 1833 , kind wishes Diarmuid
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 28 January 20 13:07 GMT (UK)
Mentions in newspapers and valuation records seem to stop around 1852/3.

He advertised as Joseph W Higginbotham.
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 28 January 20 13:47 GMT (UK)
There must have been several other children. From newspaper reports, Joseph's eldest son John Lett Higginbotham died on 19 September 1832; and eldest daughter Elizabeth Jane married Samuel William Sherlock, son of John Sherlock of New Ross, in 1852.
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 28 January 20 13:51 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth Jane's marriage record: https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-298-3-6-096
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 28 January 20 14:28 GMT (UK)
Announcement re John Lett Higginbotham's death in 1832 (bottom of column 2, page 1)

http://snap.waterfordcoco.ie/collections/enewspapers/waterford_mail/1832/waterford_mail_09_sep_29.pdf
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 28 January 20 15:48 GMT (UK)
Wexford Conservative, 9 Mar.1844: Joseph Higginbotham sworn —ls a Watchmaker, and sometimes a working Silver Smith; here the witness tested the quality of the halfcrown ...

Wexford Independent, 19 Jan.1850: WANTED, AN INTELLIGENT LAD... APPRENTICE to ... WATCH, CLOCK, and JEWELLERY BUSINESS. JOSEPH HIGGINBOTHAM, . 14, Mota-ttnot [_-street?], Wexford.
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 29 January 20 04:05 GMT (UK)
As Joseph appears in Griffith's Valuation he was still alive in 1853, when the valuation was performed (published 1854).  His neighbour was William Timpson, a brush maker, to whom I have a connection via marriage.

I believe there is a simple reason OP did not find Joseph's or William's births in the Ferns registers online: they were Protestant, not Catholic (at least at birth). The good news is that the CofI parish registers are extant, and are kept in Dublin.

As for a death registration, if Jospeh died in the period from 1853 to 1864, as is possible/probable, then there won't be any such record, as registration only started in 1864.
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 29 January 20 07:43 GMT (UK)
There must have been several other children. From newspaper reports, Joseph's eldest son John Lett Higginbotham died on 19 September 1832; and eldest daughter Elizabeth Jane married Samuel William Sherlock, son of John Sherlock of New Ross, in 1852.

In the 1852 Marriage Register Joseph is Gentleman...

same Higginbotham family as here in 1738?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-S4NR-B?i=232&cat=185720

Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 29 January 20 07:44 GMT (UK)


Some Ferns registers online

https://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/rcb-library/anglican-record-project


Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 29 January 20 07:49 GMT (UK)


Some Ferns registers online

https://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/rcb-library/anglican-record-project

Indeed. But not Wexford, which is the one of interest.
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 29 January 20 09:36 GMT (UK)
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Wexford Independent, 19 Jan.1850: WANTED, AN INTELLIGENT LAD... APPRENTICE to ... WATCH, CLOCK, and JEWELLERY BUSINESS. JOSEPH HIGGINBOTHAM, . 14, Mota-ttnot [_-street?], Wexford.

That one actually says "Joseph W Higginbotham, 25 Main Street, Wexford"
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 29 January 20 10:20 GMT (UK)
Joseph W. Higginbotham was working in Wexford at least until 1858 according to Watchmakers & Clockmakers of the World by Brian Loomis. His entry says born 1824 but no other details.
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: Diarmuidgannon1916 on Wednesday 29 January 20 16:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks,  hallmark, wexflyer ,Aghadowey, and shaunj, for you Kind help , I really appreciate it,  brilliant!
Wexflyers Your correct they where church of ireland,  joseph w higginbotham my grandfather X3 back had a watch & clock shop on the corner of Rowe street , now a coffee shop, so he faced the church of his faith, saint iberius church of ireland,  even do I'm from dublin my family are from wexford , anyway guys thanks so much ,
Kind wishes Diarmuid
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 29 January 20 17:08 GMT (UK)
...... I'm from Dublin my family are from Wexford......
Kind wishes Diarmuid

I guess no one is perfect!
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 29 January 20 17:22 GMT (UK)


Not everyone can be from Dublin!   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Joseph higginbotham watchmaker and clock maker
Post by: Diarmuidgannon1916 on Wednesday 29 January 20 18:29 GMT (UK)
Ha ! Thanks guys
Diarmuid