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Maria Crockett was born c 1847 in Kincardineshire Scotland and married John Moir there in 1864.
They had one son James .
In 1886 Maria married William Sinclair born in 1856 in Orphir Orkney I have them on the 1891 census living in Glasgow but can't find them after that.There is a possibility they may have gone to America according to family stories but where and when no one knows.
Any help appreciated .
suzilad
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This must be your couple in 1890 19 Rosehall St Glasgow Scotland ? Did you find the step-son ?
Parish Glasgow St George ED 10 Page 3 Line 1
William Sinclair 35
Maria G Sinclair 44
James Moir 23 step-son born Montrose, Forfarshire. Draughtsman/Engineer.
Hugh P Lymburn 25
Sandra
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James Moir 2 June 1867 stays in the UK - Finchley, Middlesex, England - Mechanic Draughtsman Retired -
2 daughters.
Sandra
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Thank you Sandra thought he might have gone with them .
Yes that's Maria and William .
suzilad
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Not having any enjoy finding this couple on passenger lists to USA or Canada so far.
Have you looked at this scenerio ???
There is a death of a Maria Sinclair - Islington London - registered December 1898 - 1b 220
Maria was 52 years old.
Noticed a marriage for a William Sinclair to Elizabeth Adelaide Sims in Islington and registered December 1900 - 1b 699
This couple appear on the 1901 census 5 St Peter Street Islington London. Occupation would differ from the 1890 Scotland census for your William Sinclair.
William Sinclair 45 born Scotland. Insurance Agent
Elizabeth Adelaide Sinclair 39
Henry Fred Sims 7
Ethel Mary Sims 5
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9ZR-X4R
1911 free index 155 Packington Street, Islington (interesting middle name for his son born 1903)
William Sinclair 55 born Orkney Scotland. Agent and Collector
Elizabeth Adelaide Sinclair 49
Henry Frederick Sims 17 step-son
Ethel Mary Sims 15 step-son
William Robert Sinclair 8 son
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWGM-JY7
Birth Redg William Robert Sinclair - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2F82-SJ7
The son William Robert Sinclair - born 1903 died January 1967 - aged 64 years - St Pancras London - 5d 986
Burial Camden
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=1869635
Food for thought anyway ;)
Sandra
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Mabel Alice Moir daughter of James and Mary Ann Moir nee Wood was a civil servant and quite the traveller.
1927 travelling from Bombay back to England
1936 she travels to New York on the Queen Mary next of kin Mr and Mrs J Moir meeting a friend Sarah Holman, 228 Harrison Avenue, Mineola NY.
She is back in England for the 1939 register.
There is another trip to South Africa 1949 but I'm not sure its the same woman.
Never marries died 14 August 1977 England.
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Thank you both for all this information.
I think you have cracked it Sandra- William Sinclair was the son of Robert Sinclair and Ann Clouston and it looks like the old Scottish naming practice has been followed when naming his son,.William had many occupations over the years .
The ages for Maria and him are spot on she was born in 1847 and he in 1856.
Thank you both again.
suzilad
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Thought it was worth a mention when I saw those records yesterday. ;)
Sandra
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Forgot you to put the link for deceased online and its not working for me at the moment but I did also see the burial for Maria Sinclair - 11 November 1898
Will try it again later.
Sandra
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=1117381
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=1117381
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Noticed a marriage for a William Sinclair to Elizabeth Adelaide Sims in Islington and registered December 1900 - 1b 699
This couple appear on the 1901 census 5 St Peter Street Islington London. Occupation would differ from the 1890 Scotland census for your William Sinclair.
William Sinclair 45 born Scotland. Insurance Agent
Elizabeth Adelaide Sinclair 39
Henry Fred Sims 7
Ethel Mary Sims 5
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9ZR-X4R
1911 free index 155 Packington Street, Islington (interesting middle name for his son born 1903)
William Sinclair 55 born Orkney Scotland. Agent and Collector
Elizabeth Adelaide Sinclair 49
Henry Frederick Sims 17 step-son
Ethel Mary Sims 15 step-son
William Robert Sinclair 8 son
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWGM-JY7
Birth Redg William Robert Sinclair - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2F82-SJ7
For info...
William Robert SINCLAIR mmn FLEGG
1902 S Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 354
Ethel Mary SIMS mmn FLEGG
1896 M Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 616
Henry Frederick SIMS mmn FLEGG
1894 M Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 619
Jun 1889 Marylebone 1a 1190
Carter Thomas
Flegg Elizabeth Adelaide
Hallisay Hannah
Sims Harry Spencer (he died age 32 in 1896)
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Thank you both for very much for this info.
I spent this morning at the library but didn't get very far I think William married a Florence Hall Howard in 1929 and they had a son Robert Howard Sinclair born in 1932 he died in 2003
Could not find a death for William born in 1856 or Elizabeth Sims.
suzilad
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Could not find a death for William born in 1856 or Elizabeth Sims.
1924 Electoral Register address 6 Manchester Mansions Islington
William, Elizabeth Adelaide & William Robert SINCLAIR also at that address is
Henry Frederick SIMS (Henry married in 1924 Islington Winifred Daisy Clark)
Henry Frederick Sims age 49, Married, Auditor C P R
Birth Place: England London
Nationality: Canadian
Arrival Date: 3 Mar 1943
Arrival Place: Ketchikan, Alaska, USA
Vessel: Princess Norah
Winifred Daisy SIMS age 77
Residence Place: 121 Lissington Dr. S.W. .
Death Date: 23 Aug 1978
Obituary Date: 25 Aug 1978
Obituary Place: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Spouse: Henry F. Sims
Child:G. W
D
Siblings: H Clark
M Jackson
Looks as if Henry's mother is living in Hertford with her married son
Not added full names as I do not know if the above are still living will send PM
Possible entry for her death from GRO indexes
SINCLAIR, ELIZABETH ADELAIDE age 89
1950 D Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 05C Page 1028
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Could possibly narrow William Sinclair's death between 1929 - 1932 using entries from London Electoral Register
1918/19/21 living 64 Halton Street Islington
William , Elizabeth Adelaide Sinclair & Henry Frederick Sims
1922 address 5 & 6 Manchester Mansions Islington
William , Elizabeth Adelaide Sinclair & Henry Frederick Sims
1928 address 6 Manchester Mansions
William, Elizabeth Adelaide & William Robert Sinclair
1930 same address as above but no WRS but Ethel Mary Sims is with W & E
1931/32 address 99 Woodlands Avenue Finchley Barnet
Elizabeth Adelaide, Florence Susan & William Robert Sinclair also
Ethel Mary Sims
1934/35/36/37/38/39 address 55 Grosvenor Avenue Islington
Elizabeth Adelaide Sinclair & Ethel Mary Sims
EDITED - Removed deaths as wrong surname ::) this is probably his death
Mar 1931
Sinclair William age 74 Islington 1b 381
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I spent this morning at the library but didn't get very far I think William married a Florence Hall Howard in 1929 and they had a son Robert Howard Sinclair born in 1932 he died in 2003
His wife’s middle initial is S on 1929 marriage reg. her death
Florence Susan Sinclair died 98
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1898
Death registered Feb 1997 Barnet
Register Number: A49D
District and Subdistrict: 2191A
Entry Number: 257
Florence Susan Sinclair
Burial or Cremation Date: 17 Feb 1997 Camden, London
Florence Susan Howard bn 31 7 1898
Baptism 4 Dec 1901 Battle Bridge All Saints, Islington
Father: Edward Howard occ Pointsman ? GNR Mother: Susan
2 siblings bpt same day
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Thank you for all this information just shows you can't believe everything you have been told about ancestors.
regards,
suzilad