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Title: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: webbedwards on Friday 14 February 20 10:53 GMT (UK)
Hi All, any info on the following siblings, ANN WENDOUREE PRYCE b 1883, CLAUDE HAROLD BRESLIN PRYCE b 1881 THOMAS GORDON PRYCE b 188? mother was ESTHER JANE BRESLIN b 1858

I know claude had 3 children, RUTH b 1914, ROBERT LINDSY b 1917 & RICHARD JOSEPH b 1922 all now died i think, any info on them.    Many thanks
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: matthewj64 on Friday 14 February 20 16:02 GMT (UK)
The Ryerson Index has a June 2008 funeral notice published in the Gold Coast Bulletin for Richard Joseph Pryce aged 85 years, 'late of Helensvale'

WW2 service record index entry
http://soda.naa.gov.au/record/6627856/1

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Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: matthewj64 on Friday 14 February 20 16:15 GMT (UK)
From BDM Victoria -

Claude Harold Breslin Pryce
died aged 88y Cohuna, Victoria 1969 reg. 13169/1969
born Prahran, Vicoria, parents Robert Septimus Pryce and Ester (Breslin)
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: cupoflife on Friday 14 February 20 20:41 GMT (UK)
From BDM Victoria -

Claude Harold Breslin Pryce
died aged 88y Cohuna, Victoria 1969 reg. 13169/1969
born Prahran, Vicoria, parents Robert Septimus Pryce and Ester (Breslin)

Death and funeral notice The Age 24 June 1969 pg 17 (see 9 of 12 in the link)
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19690624&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

Springvale Cemetery: Claude Harold B Pryce
https://smct.org.au/deceased-search/343143?cemetery=Springvale%20Botanical%20Cemetery&cemeteries=Springvale%20Botanical%20Cemetery&givenName=Claude%20Harold&surname=Pryce

Cheers :)
CoL

Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: cupoflife on Friday 14 February 20 20:45 GMT (UK)
The Ryerson Index has a June 2008 funeral notice published in the Gold Coast Bulletin for Richard Joseph Pryce aged 85 years, 'late of Helensvale'

WW2 service record index entry
http://soda.naa.gov.au/record/6627856/1

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Gold Coast Bulletin|19 June 2008
PRYCE, Richard Joseph. Passed away peacefully on 16th June 2008, late of Helensvale, aged 85 years. Beloved husband of Win (deceased) and father of ....
https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/aus-newspaper-extracts.rootsweb.com/thread/2378495/

Adding: http://ryersonindex.org/search.php
PRYCE Winifred death 29JUN2003, age 74, late of Helensvale, Gold Coast Bulletin 02JUL2003   
https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/allambememorialpark/winifred-pryce/956173
WINIFRED PRYCE
Passed away on 29 June 2003
Aged 74 years

Cheers :)
CoL
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 14 February 20 22:00 GMT (UK)
Births VIC to Claude and Amy:

6834/1913 Harold died 3285/1913

34539 / 1914 Ruth Louvain

951/1917 Robert Lindsay

Marriages VIC:

9506/1913 PRYCE, Claud Harold Breslin to HUNTER Amy

6238/1944 PRYCE Robert Lindsay to DENNY Norma Eliz

19358/1948 PRYCE Ruth Louvain to GRANDIN Keith

14902/1950 PRYCE Robt Lindsay to LUND Joyce Lilian

4743/1950 PRYCE Norma Eliz to BEUTLER John Lindsay

Deaths NSW:

There is this, but the death notice has his wife as Mary and he had children to a Mary 1869-1879.

7169/1898 PRYCE Robert S parents HENRY and MARY at ST PETERS

1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article14143463

1759/1943 PRYCE Annie Wendouree (PRYCE) CHATSWOOD
Death and funeral notices, 2nd and 4th columns: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17839924

Macquarie Park Cemetery
CHURCH OF ENGLAND, T5, Grave 0003
PRYCE Wendouree Annie 9-3-1943 10-3-1943

Deaths VIC:

8251/1938 PRYCE Esther parents Minnie JAMES and Robert BRESLIN at Armadale aged 79

24235/1966 GRANDIN Keith parents Alma WOESS and Norman Henry GRANDIN born Melbourne died Prahran East aged 44

13169/1969 PRYCE Claude Harold Breslin parents Esther BRESLIN and Robert Septimus PRYCE born Prahran died Cohuna aged 88

Springvale Botanical Cemetery
Church of England, Compartment F, Section 19, Grave 11
Esther Pryce
Buried 31 August 1938
Claude Harold B Pryce
Buried 26 June 1969

Odd: Claude Harold Breslin Pryce St Kilda Cemetery Buried 26 June 1969

10288/1971 PRYCE Amy parents Isabella FITZGERALD and Joseph HUNTER birth Horsham death Windsor aged 80

Amy Pryce St Kilda Cemetery Buried 11 May 1971

Ruth Grandin St Kilda Cemetery Buried 21 February 2006

BEUTLER Norma Elizabeth:
https://www.everhere.com/au/obituaries/vic/bendigo/norma-elizabeth-beutler-7389496
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/bendigoadvertiser-au/obituary.aspx?n=norma-elizabeth-beutler&pid=188955176&fhid=31565
Passed away on 4 May 2018 Aged 95 years

BEUTLER John Lindsay:
https://tributes.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/obituaries/bendigoadvertiser-au/obituary.aspx?n=john-lindsay-beutler-jack&pid=187006235&fhid=31565
https://tributes.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/obituaries/bendigoadvertiser-au/obituary.aspx?n=john-lindsay-beutler-jack&pid=187039306&fhid=31565

Accident report with photo of Keith GRANDIN, 2nd last: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article243210378

Jamjar
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: cupoflife on Friday 14 February 20 22:42 GMT (UK)
https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/allambememorialpark/robert-lindsay-pryce/956166
ROBERT LINDSAY PRYCE
Passed away on 1 July 2003
Aged 80 years
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 14 February 20 23:04 GMT (UK)
I have a feeling that we have researched this family before, but I did a RC search and nothing is popping up.

Can anyone else locate related threads?

Jamjar
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 14 February 20 23:55 GMT (UK)
19782/1881 BRESLIN Claude Harold mother Esther father unknown St Kilda

He was then registered as Pryce in Tasmania in 1882. Mother’s name as Esther Clara:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99CH-CZMN?i=126&cc=2125029

Where were the other children born and with which surname?

Jamjar

Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 February 20 00:19 GMT (UK)
Is this Esther born baptised in Tasmania with folks Mary and Francis?:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89CH-C5ZJ?i=280&cc=2125029

Death report of an Esther’s (PRICE) sister, Annie, shows that this Esther was in Sydney in Nov 1982, however the father named on the death reg is William 4th column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13517443

Jamjar
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Essie on Saturday 15 February 20 01:14 GMT (UK)



Deaths NSW:

There is this, but the death notice has his wife as Mary and he had children to a Mary 1869-1879.

7169/1898 PRYCE Robert S parents HENRY and MARY at ST PETERS

1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article14143463


Jamjar


A Robert Septimus PRYCE had five children 1858-1867 in VIC with Mary Ann FENTRILL.

Essie

ADDED
Surname for Mary Ann recorded in TAS as FEUTRILL.
Did Robert Septimus and Mary Ann have a son named Robert Septimus born in TAS?
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 February 20 01:17 GMT (UK)





Deaths NSW:

There is this, but the death notice has his wife as Mary and he had children to a Mary 1869-1879.

7169/1898 PRYCE Robert S parents HENRY and MARY at ST PETERS

1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article14143463


Jamjar


A Robert Septimus PRYCE had five children 1858-1867 in VIC with Mary Ann FENTRILL.

Essie

Yes, he married her in Tassie, in 1853: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9CH-76X8?i=389&cc=2125029&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ279-3KK4

Christening of a Mary: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTX7-V2Z?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=LZNX-BVZ

Death: 4935/1918 PRYCE Mary A parents SAMUEL and JANE
Funeral notice, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15790467

At Rookwood:

Robert S Pryce
Date of Burial :
24 JUN 1898
Age : UNKNOWN
Plot : T_Zone C/#/5688

Mary Pryce
Date of Burial :
24 JUN 1918
Age : UNKNOWN
Plot : H_Zone C/#/489

With Mary:
8228/1926 Alma M E
She is the daughter of the son, Norman.
Death notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16292360

Jamjar
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 February 20 02:20 GMT (UK)
A christening for Annie Wendouree, but I can’t see her birth:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT6G-96P

Jamjar
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: webbedwards on Monday 17 February 20 11:52 GMT (UK)
Wow, thanks all for your hard work & the info
could some one please find when Ruth l Grandin died, plus when husband was born & died, many thanks
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 12:36 GMT (UK)
Wow, thanks all for your hard work & the info
could some one please find when Ruth l Grandin died, plus when husband was born & died, many thanks

Do read reply #5

Jamjar
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: webbedwards on Monday 17 February 20 12:44 GMT (UK)
sorry jamjar missed that.
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: webbedwards on Monday 17 February 20 12:46 GMT (UK)
seems keith grandin was m twice 1939 & 1948 to ruth
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 21:08 GMT (UK)
Yes, he 1st married Hazel Winifred MITCHELL.

GRANDIN Hazel Winifred Death notice 28 May 2008 Death 84 Canberra Times 29 May 2008

His folks:

11915/1915 GRANDIN Norman Hy to WOESS Alma Hermine

27293/1977 GRANDIN Norman Henry parents Amy WHIGHT and Jack GRANDIN born Stawell died Rosebud aged 81

28153/1981 GRANDIN Alma Hermione parents Mary HAYES and Herman WOESS birth Fitzroy North death Rosebud aged 84

Rye Cemetery Lawn 3    5  2010

GRANDIN, Hermann John (5401)   
AIF BADGE
TX 8072 CORPORAL
H.J. GRANDIN
ARMY PROVOST CORPS
11TH OCTOBER 2000 AGE 80
GOD HAS THEM IN HIS KEEPING,
WE HAVE THEM IN OUR HEARTS -
LOVED FOREVER.

GRANDIN, Mrs. Alma Hermine

IN LOVING MEMORY OF
ALMA GRANDIN
DIED 8TH DECEMBER 1981 AGED 84
LOVING WIFE OF NORMAN HENRY
DEVOTED MOTHER OF NORMAN, JACK & KEITH
ALWAYS REMEMBERED

GRANDIN, Norman Henry

AIF BADGE
6945 GUNNER
N.H. GRANDIN
4 FIELD ARTILLERY BRIGADE
16TH NOVEMBER 1977 AGE 81
GOD HAS THEM IN HIS KEEPING,
WE HAVE THEM IN OUR HEARTS …
LOVED FOREVER.

Jamjar

   
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: sparrett on Monday 17 February 20 21:11 GMT (UK)
Here is a news item and a picture of Keith GRANDIN in his younger days :D

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/243210378

Sue
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 21:17 GMT (UK)
It appears that there are two Keith Grandin:

Date listed: 4/9/1999
GRANDIN. - Keith, Lt. Col. (Ret.) - 2/12 Field Regt. A.I.F., Sept. 3, 1999, after a short illness at Foster, NSW. Dearly loved and loving husband of Hazel, loved father and father- in-law of Robert and Jan, Joy and John (Tonkin), Brian and Vicki. Loved by all his grandchildren and great grandchildren. Aged 83 years My loved companion for 60 years A Funeral Service will be held at St Albans Anglican Church, Foster at 11.30 a.m. TODAY (Sat. Sept. 4, 1999) prior to Private Cremation. ALLAN PEARSE FUNERALS FOSTER

Date listed: 29/5/2004
GRANDIN. - Hazel Winifred. 14.4.1920 - 28.5.2004 Beloved wife of Keith (dec.). Much loved mother, mother-in- law, grandmother and great grandmother. Always in our hearts WILLIAM COLE FUNERALS CANBERRA (02) 6253-3655
Publication: Herald Sun

Jamjar



Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 22:38 GMT (UK)
GRANDIN KEITH : Service Number - VX107043 : Date of birth - 07 Sep 1921 : Place of birth - FAIRFIELD VIC : Place of enlistment - IN THE FIELD WA : Next of Kin - GRANDIN ALMA

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=9282665

This Keith is the one who I believe married Ruth and who died in VIC.
24235/1966 GRANDIN Keith parents Alma WOESS and Norman Henry GRANDIN born Melbourne died Prahran East aged 44

I can’t see the military record for the Keith Grandin who died in NSW.

The article with photo of a Keith Grandin, which I posted in Reply #5, has his age as 20 in 1934, so it is more likely to be the Keith who married Hazel and died in NSW.

Jamjar
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 18 February 20 07:43 GMT (UK)
Here is the WW2 Service Record index for Keith born 1915 who married Hazel Winifred.

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=790149

His birth
GRANDIN Keith
29338/1915
Father Charles
Mother Louisa J
BALMAIN SOUTH

The fathers of both the Keith GRANDINs (Charles George and Norman Henry) seem to be part of he GRANDIN family of Stawell Victoria.

Sue

Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 18 February 20 07:57 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Sue.

Jamjar
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: webbedwards on Tuesday 18 February 20 10:13 GMT (UK)
Again many thanks for all your hard work & the info you found
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: webbedwards on Tuesday 18 February 20 10:40 GMT (UK)
Just one last item, i have Robert S Pryce in Adelaide in 1850 as a Freemason & a Court case in Dec 1851. But i cannot find him leaving England, when did he arrive in Australia
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 19 February 20 00:10 GMT (UK)
Just one last item, i have Robert S Pryce in Adelaide in 1850 as a Freemason & a Court case in Dec 1851. But i cannot find him leaving England, when did he arrive in Australia

I can’t see a mention on TROVE.

What was his middle name, and where was he born? Was he Robert Septimus Pryce?

There is a death in NSW:

7169/1898 PRYCE Robert S HENRY and MARY at ST PETERS

Buried ROOKWOOD:

Robert S Pryce
Date of Burial: 24 JUN 1898
Age: Unknown
Plot: T_Zone C/#/5688

There is one, a commission agent, in Tassie, in 1854. 3rd last column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article36289103

Ah, I see. It is the Robert Septimus that we have previously researched.

1850, Adelaide, 3rd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article195940161

1851, last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article38441855

1851, 3rd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article38442392

1851, last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article38440611

1851, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article38448262

In the add for the commission agent the company name is H.H.P. Pryce. There is a VIC death:

5497/1854 PRYCE Harry Howard Per aged 40

Death notice, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article36290968

Funeral notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4801312

It appears that Harry was also a ships captain, 2nd last column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4786267

Probate, South Africa. PRYCE Harry Howard Percy, parents Henry and Eliza. States no relative or connection in Melbourne.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSQF-CSST-8?i=1028&cc=2517051

Robert Septimus also with folks Henry and Eliza, christened England 1822:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBHJ-P6T

Harry/Henry Howard’s christening, same folks: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NB8S-HLZ

Their brother, William Broughton Pryce, was also a ships captain and was in Australia in 1858:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSMP-47MC-6?i=276

Their father was also a captain:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPCV-67WS

The folk’s marriage 1816:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99Q5-MT6N?i=95&cc=2515875&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ2MS-R3KX

I think the VIC birth to Robert and Mary confirms the connection: 1587/1858 PRYCE Harry Wm Bronghton
Christening: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT6K-TS6

Was Robert was also a sailor?

Looks like father was here in 1830, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article32073740

Jamjar
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: webbedwards on Wednesday 19 February 20 10:30 GMT (UK)
Many thanks jamjar for info
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: webbedwards on Wednesday 26 February 20 10:15 GMT (UK)
looking for wedding of ROBERT LINDSY PRYCE b 1917 & RICHARD JOSEPH PRYCE b 1922
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 26 February 20 10:21 GMT (UK)
looking for wedding of ROBERT LINDSY PRYCE b 1917 & RICHARD JOSEPH PRYCE b 1922

See reply #5 for Robert Lindsay.

Jamjar
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: webbedwards on Wednesday 26 February 20 10:29 GMT (UK)
missed that one as well jamjar, thanks
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 26 February 20 10:32 GMT (UK)
RICHARD JOSEPH PRYCE b 1922

Is this the chap of the same name, in Darwin?

Bottom 3rd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article49991625

Bottom 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article47871166

Bottom 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article49486820

Jamjar



Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: webbedwards on Wednesday 26 February 20 10:54 GMT (UK)
first 2 could be, last one yes
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: webbedwards on Monday 02 March 20 10:47 GMT (UK)
still looking for when RICHARD JOSEPH PRYCE  b 1922 wed a WINIFRED ? b 1929 & there children
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 02 March 20 21:49 GMT (UK)
still looking for when RICHARD JOSEPH PRYCE  b 1922 wed a WINIFRED ? b 1929 & there children

PRYCE Winifred Funeral notice 29 Jun 2003 Death 74 late of Helensvale Gold Coast Bulletin 2 July 2003

PRYCE Richard Joseph Funeral notice 16 Jun 2008 Death 85 late of Helensvale Gold Coast Bulletin 19 Jun 2008

Jamjar

   
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: webbedwards on Wednesday 04 March 20 10:27 GMT (UK)
Thanks jamjar for that. Can you please see if you can find wedding of MARY BAIRD to RICHARD PRYCE could be in NT. Many thanks
Title: Re: PRYCE FAMILY OF ST KILDA VICTORIA
Post by: Pollyanna52 on Saturday 04 April 20 04:02 BST (UK)
I am able to help with these queries as I am the daughter of the late Robert Lindsay Pryce. Richard, his brother lived in Darwin and did not marry Winifred until she was past child-bearing age so no children. He did have other children. Richard and Winifred (born in England) married in US while travelling there. Robert, Richard and Ruth (Grandin) were the grandchildren of Robert Septimus Pryce and I have not been able to ascertain either how he got to Australia other than he must have landed in Adelaide around 1850.

I can help with any other queries.