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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: LizB251 on Monday 17 February 20 14:41 GMT (UK)
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Looking for any information on my grandfather George Hutchison Taylor born Scotland 19/01/1902 He emigrated to USA in 1930.
Don’t know anything about him since then but believe he could have lived in Detroit Anything would be greatly appreciated
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If you register for family search, records for the USA are free to search. They have quite a lot, so worth a look.
Border crossing Canada to the USA - George Hutchison Taylor born 1903 Scotland and aged 27 years.
Arrived Quebec Canada 26 April 1930 on the Minnedosa. Shipwright from Peterhead Scotland.
Wife Mrs Isabel Taylor - 6 Weaver Lane Peterhead Scotland. Going to Niagara Falls NY.
Sister Mrs Thomson 539 24 th Street Niagara Falls.
Another border crossing document gives wife as Lizzie Taylor - 6 Weaver Lane. Peterhead.
Sandra
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SSDI - George Taylor Birth Date 19 Jan 1902 - died 19 July 1996
Issue year Before 1951 - Issue State Tennessee
Last Residence 48228, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.
U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - George Taylor - 19 January 1903 - 19 July 1966 - Claim Date 7 Mar 1966
Sandra
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Could this be the sister ???
1930 census 20 th Street Niagara Falls, Niagara, New York.
Frank Thompson 36
Lizzie Thompson 31 born England ??? Imm 1923. Alien.
Frank Thompson 9 born England.
Robert M Thompson 1 born NY.
Sandra
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1940 census 20 th Street Niagara Falls, Niagara, New York
Frank Thompson 45 born Scotland. Machinist.
Elizabeth Thompson 41 born Scotland
Frank Thompson 19 born Scotland.
Robert Thompson 11 born NY.
Daughter "P" Thompson 9 born NY. (possibly still living)
Sandra
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Obituary for the son - Frank Thompson Jnr. HIs mother and sister survived him.
Daily Press Newport News, Virginia 17 Jul 1985, Wed Page 36
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/44869932/obituary_for_frank_thompson_aged_64/
Sandra
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U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - Frank Thompson Jnr - 21 Nov 1920
Peterhead Aberdeen Scotland. - Died Jul 1985
Father Frank Thompson - Mother Elizabeth A Taylor.
FIND A GRAVE
Newington Baptist Church Cemetery Gloucester, Gloucester County, Virginia.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55021171
Frank married Annabelle Florence 12 January 1946 - Niagara Falls NY.
Grace Annabelle Thompson died 22 September 2013 - Gloucester Virginia.
https://www.gazettejournal.net/index.php/obituaries/mobileobit_ind/grace_annabelle_thompson
Sandra
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Welcome Liz to Rootschat you have managed to get some info
Cheers
Elizabeth happy hunting
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Thanks for all the replies I’m new to this so bear with me Been a big help so far Thanks :)
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Aaah I see how the wife's name on the marriage entry was Isabella and Lizzie :)
Did Lizzie Isabella go to the USA and did they have children before they went to the USA.
George Hutchiso Taylor - Fyvie - Isabella - 1923 - 232/1 92 Peterhead.
George Hutchiso Taylor - Fyvie - Lizzie Bella - 1923 - 232/2 92 Peterhead.
Sandra
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I am wondering if he remarried - marriage Allentown, Lehigh, Pennsylvania 23 October 1933 - Sophia A. Strzyz and George H Taylor. Were his parents Alex Taylor and Mary Strachen ???
Sandra
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The Morning Call
Allentown, Pennsylvania
Tuesday, October 24, 1933 - Page 19
Marriage License: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/44917288/the_morning_call/
Edit to Add-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFW4-XV5
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The Morning Call
Allentown, Pennsylvania
Tuesday, October 24, 1933 - Page 19
Marriage License: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/44917288/the_morning_call/
If this marriage actually did happen, it didn't last long, Sophia married John Kostraba in 1936.
Sophia -
1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4RS-35Y
1940 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K7MP-3ST
50th wedding Anniversary- top right
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p2j/
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Follow-up
It appears the marriage did go forward, and he was then arrested and charged with bigamy a week later. Supposedly he was to be deported. Did that happen? If so, he must have re-entered the United States at a later date. Perhaps this why he doesn't seem to appear in the 1940 census.
Niagara Falls Gazette
Niagara Falls, NY
Saturday, Nov. 4, 1933
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Goodness I wonder if he was deported
Its amazing what you can find on the internet
I like a mystery :o :o
Elizabeth
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This information has shocked us Don’t know about getting deported Would he have been allowed back into the USA if he had?
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That was a good find, Did you get the date of birth for George from his birth certificate ? 19/1/1902 ???
I read a similar one recently where the guy was sent to Sing Sing prison for 18 months. ???
Sandra
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Never had a birth certificate Sandra Got the date of birth from Ancestry
Maybe he was jailed also It’s certainly intriguing
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From the death record ?
Sandra
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The Niagara Falls Gazette Niagara Falls, NY was Saturday, Nov. 4, 1933
The border crossing Canada to the USA for George Hutchison Taylor - 26 April 1930 gave the date 11-6-1933 ??? If that is written the American way - 6-11-1933 - could that be a date he was deported ??? Seems very quick, not sure how those things would work.
Sandra
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That could be him getting deported right enough Thanks for all this information would never have found this out without you
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Don’t know of him ever coming back to the Peterhead area in Scotland. It was only when my grandmother died in 1981 my Aunt found correspondence from the Salvation Army She had been trying to trace him
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Just received a copy of his birth certificate Thanks to ‘Aspin’ His date of birth is 10/4/1902
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Your welcome Liz
Elizabeth
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I'm a little skeptical about that George Taylor Birth Date 19 Jan 1902 - died 19 July 1996, being the same George Hutchison Taylor sought.
The SS# associated with that George Taylor was issued in Tennessee between 1936 and 1950. What would he be doing in Tennessee? Nobody goes to Tennessee. But people from there do go up to Detroit to find work in the auto industry.
I see you have received his birth certificate and the month & day are different from the SSDI record. While the year of birth often can vary, the month & day usually remain consistent. Example- that George who died in 1996 has YOB as 1902 on SS death record, but when he made a claim in 1966 he stated he was born 1903. The month & day of birth remained the same.
Claim: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p2v/
Death record: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p2w/
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His sister Elizabeth Ann died in 1989.
SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JPWL-YMN
Death record: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p2x/
Application File: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p2y/
Her obit list as living; her husband Frank, a son, a daughter and a sister Flora Smith. No mention of a brother George who would have been alive if that was him who died in 1996 Michigan.
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This is new to me but while living abroad do people not use their middle name as Hutchinson is not down the list as I said this is the first form I have seen like this
Elizabeth
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One of my uncles tried to trace him a few years back. This is where I got the first dob (19/1/1902)
Now with the new dob (10/4/1902) confirmed with his birth certificate, it looks like we are back to square one.
I thought using his middle name Hutchison he would be easier to trace as it’s not a common name. We were never in contact with any of his siblings while growing up so have absolutely no information on him apart from the emigration and deportation paper clippings.
I would like to thank everyone who have so far contributed to the search.i really appreciate it ;)
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This is new to me but while living abroad do people not use their middle name as Hutchinson is not down the list as I said this is the first form I have seen like this
Elizabeth
In my experience as a lifelong American, most of us have middle names. They're not always used in making indexes of vital records. Sometimes just initials will show up, or sometimes nothing is in the middle.
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Thank you for the reply
I now understand what I was looking at on one of the forms given no middle name
Elizabeth
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Don't give up Liz I'm sure your on the right track
I'm having trouble with a Robert Stark born Scotland there's a lot of them in Scotland it's just getting the right parents
I was going from the date of his birth from a family bible from a relative another relative posted his death certificate both had birth and death dates 12 of October but the years were different
So keep at it
Elizabeth
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I've had a look in Scotlandpeople and I cannot find a death for George in there around 1965
But I found a George H Taylor died Dec Quarter 1965 aged 63 Manchester on Free BMD
The thing is you might send for the death certificate and it might be him
So he must have stayed in Canada or America
Elizabeth
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The USA Social Security Death Index doesn't show any George Taylor born 10/4/1902
The SSDI was fully up and running by about 1963. Sadly - Canada does not have a BMD index to check.
Sandra