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Can Anyone help me with a Rueben Jones born Mathon Worcs,c 1824. Thank you.
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Welcome to RootsChat
Reuben appears on UK census records. What do you wish to know ?
Sandra
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Hello Jesse,
Welcome to Rootschat.
Could you tell us what you already know please - and what you want to know?
There was a burial in Mathon for a Reuben Jones 0n 17 Oct 1860 - but I don't know if he's yours - I haven't checked his age at death yet.
However, as mentioned, I don't know what you want to know.
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There is an ancestry tree that shows Reuben married Mary Ann at Ledbury Herefordshire 1849 - 26 - 325 ?
Sandra
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1861 census Ledbury Herefordshire. (7 April 1861) ???
Rubin Jones 37 Mary Ann Jones 31
James Jones 11 Fanny Jones 8
George H Jones 5 Charles Jones 3
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PV-YK1
Sandra
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Just checked the age at death for the burial of a Reuben Jones in Mathon in 1860 --- he was an infant aged 0 -- so can be discounted.
Therefore, your find in 1861, Sandra -could be correct.
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Just checked the age at death for the burial of a Reuben Jones in Mathon in 1860 --- he was an infant aged 0 -- so can be discounted.
Therefore, your find in 1861, Sandra -could be correct.
There was a birth and death of a Reuben Jones in 1860 at Ledbury
Sandra
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Another death in 1864 at Ledbury for Reuben Jones. - 6a 361 - no age.
Sandra
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Could this be the re-marriage of Mary Anne - ???
Mary Ann Jones - born 1830 and aged 38 years - widpwed - - 1 December 1868
Ettingshall, Stafford
Father David Powell - Spouse John Reynolds.
1871 census Bilston Wolverhampton.
Class RG10 Piece 2953 Folio 29 Page 12
John Reynolds 48
Mary Reynolds 40 born Mathon.
George Jones 16 born Mathon.
Francis Jones 8 born Mathon.
John Reynolds 1
James Reynolds 55
Mary Ann Powell - Baptism Date 2 May 1830 Mathon, Worcester.
Father David Powell - Mother Susanna
Sandra
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Rueben Jones married Mary Anne Powell , their son Married A Druccilla York they I turn had a son named James Thomas Jones who was my father, I have been trying to go further back before Rueben who was my Great grandfather. Signed L Jones
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There is an ancestry tree that shows Reuben married Mary Ann at Ledbury Herefordshire 1849 - 26 - 325 ?
Sandra. Thank you for your post, the dates you have correspond with my info, Rueben was my great grandfather, I am trying to go back beyond him, would it be possible to have a copy of Ancestry tree please, jesse123
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Just checked the age at death for the burial of a Reuben Jones in Mathon in 1860 --- he was an infant aged 0 -- so can be discounted.
Therefore, your find in 1861, Sandra -could be correct.
. The date could be correct as some children died young and one died at birth.
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1. The Reuben Jones who died in 1864 mentioned by Sandra - was 39 years old - so could be the correct Reuben based on his approximate birth year.
2. Jesse - how do you know your Reuben married Mary Ann Powell please? Have you purchased the marriage certificate as it would give you the fathers' names of bride and groom.
3. On the 1861 census found by Sandra - if it's the correct family and it looks like it as birthplace and age of Reuben is correct -- there is an 11 year old son James which pre-dates the marriage of a Reuben Jones to Mary Ann Powell. In addition the maiden name of the mother of that James Jones, in Ledbury Reg Dist appears to be Bough.
4. The family tree on Ancestry cannot really be copied to you -- if you have access to that site - you can find it by going to 'Search' and from the drop down menu which appears - select Public Member Trees - insert your search term for Reuben Jones. They have his father as Richard - but his wife as Mary Ann Jones! They show a marriage in 1849. (There is one in Ledbury Reg Dist, but it is to Mary Bough).
Jesse -- can you provide the name and birth year of the child of the Reuben b 1824 from whom you are descended please. What was the mother's maiden name? If you don't know we can check that.
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Just to add -- the Reuben Jones who was born and died in 1860 - Ledbury Reg Dist -- mother's maiden name was Powell -- so did Reuben marry twice I wonder?
Firstly to Mary Bough and had James -- then to Mary Ann Powell. That's a possibility.
Has anyone found the family in 1851? I can't at the moment.
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Thank you all for your warm welcome, and also your quick responses. I hope you can bear with me I’m very new to all this, so may make a few mistakes. ( I’m 86). Pennines, in answer to your question, Reuben definitely married Mary Anne Powell. Mary bough was his first wife. I have this information from relatives.
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Pennines Rueben had a son son Named George Henry Jones he married Druccilla York and they were my fathers parents, they also had a very big family, and if my memory serves me right, one of the children was named Rueben died died at birth,not sure of date but I may be able to find out.
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Jesse -- you are doing SO well as a newcomer to this, so don't worry.
You have answered the question which was puzzling me about Reuben being married twice -- and in both cases to a Mary! Our ancestors didn't like to make it easy for us did they!
So -- if you have one of his marriage certificates - that will give his father's name - which will be a start in trying to trace him backwards.
If you haven't -- it will cost £11 from the General Register Office in Southport - but you can order on line.
If you haven't done this before - let us know and we can talk you through how to do it. The other thing to bear in mind is that names of witnesses at a wedding can sometimes be useful - as they could be a relative.
I can't find a baptism for Reuben unfortunately - and if no-one else can, then a marriage certificate will at least give one parent's name.
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Pennines, Thank you for your comments Unfortunately I haven’t a marriage cert For Rueben as they could have got lost anywhere, and my mother is not here to give me anymore information,RIP, but I think the Marriage date to Mary Powell was 1852 if that is any use to you, I am short on time left to be here my self , so I am trying to go back as far as I can, I wish to leave a family tree for my children, if that date I have given is of know help I will try and do what you advise, and pay for the birth certificate.thank . jesse123
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Jesse -- we have found both of his marriages -- so that information regarding dates isn't needed now.
If one of your children can order the marriage certificate for you from the General Register Office at Southport they can do this either by writing to;
General Register Office
PO Box 2
Southport
PR8 2JD
and providing the following information;
Name: Reuben Jones
Spouse Name; Mary Ann Powell
Year of Marriage; 1852
District; Hereford
Q/E Mar
Volume 6a
Page 651
Together with a cheque for £11
Alternatively if they use a computer they can order on line from;
https://www.gov.uk/general-register-office
Go to Order Certificates On Line on the first page.
They will need to register with the site - then complete the application form using the same details given above. They can pay bycredit or debit card. It is a completely safe site.
If in the meantime someone on this Rootschat site can find Reuben's baptism - that will also give his father's name. I can't find one unfortunately. The marriage certificate should give both the bride and the groom's fathers names and occupations - or instead of an occupation -- may say 'deceased'.
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Thank you Pennines, I will do that tomorrow and I will let you have the results as soon as I can, thank you for your help. jesse123
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Hi Jesse -- just to say - that once ordered, a certificate will take about a week to arrive.
At least it will give you Reuben's father (providing of course that he wasn't illegitimate!)
There may also be a chance of a witness being named Jones who may be a brother or cousin.
However with a surname like Jones it is possible that his family came in to England from Wales - so that will have to be borne in mind if his parents marriage can't be found in the local area. His father's name will at least be a further step.
Good luck with it Jesse.
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Pennines, I have been doing a bit more digging and I found out that Both Rueben and Mary Powell were both married twice, she married Rueben in 1852, had their children n and Rueben died , she was widowed and married a John Reynolds in 1868 and had one child. She was 38 when she remarried, and 22 years old when first married that means that was 16 years after her first marriage, so Rueben died between 1852 and 1868, according to my calculation, does this help in anyway,? My Daughter is sending for certificate today. jesse123
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Jesse -- I think we have already found Reuben's death -- see correspondence.
A 39 years old Reuben Jones died in 1864 - Ledbury Registration District. This is the correct registration district covering where he lived --- and the age is about right if he was born c 1824. So that bit is solved!!
It's his parentage which is a mystery at the moment.
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Thank you Pennines, will contact you as soon as cert, arrives.
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Thank you Pennines, will contact you as soon as cert, arrives.
Hi Pennines , have just received marriage certificate of Rueben Jones, how do I get it to you for perusal, jesse 123
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Jesse - basically you were obtaining that to obtain the names of the fathers of the bride and groom - to help find the correct baptisms for your ancestors.
(In addition if any of the witnesses had the same surname as the bride and groom that may help with a family relationship,
Hence if you simply post the details of the fathers and their occupations (if shown) - and names of witnesses. That may help Rootschatters locate baptisms for Reuben and his bride -- then marriages for those fathers -- thereby going backwards another generation.
You could try the free website Family Search to see if you can find something for them. You would need to register - but it is completely free.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/
Another free parish register site is;
https://www.freereg.org.uk/ (although it seems to be temporarily experiencing problems).
(I am assuming you don't subscribe to Ancestry or Find My Past)
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Pennines Details from a Rueben Jones Marriage lines are, Rueben fathers signature is very hard to decipher as apparently he and his son could not right and someone else signed on there behalf, it maybe Ruebens father may have the same name the way the name started in my opinion, the brides father was named David Powell and he was a Farmer, I believe Powell’s farm is still going, today or at least until a few years ago. Jesse 123
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Jesse --- I am afraid I cannot find a baptism on line for a Reuben Jones born about 1824 with a father Reuben.
There is a baptism for a 'Ruben' Jones with a father Richard and mother Frances in 1825 in Fawnhope with Fowley, Herefordshire. Might the name of the father on the certificate be Richard?
I am just wondering if your Reuben may have been born elsewhere, but the family moved when he was very young - and he therefore only THOUGHT he was born in Mathon. However this is pure speculation as there is no baptism in Mathon.
Also - if his father was Richard, you would have expected Reuben to name a son Richard - and he didn't (although he did name a daughter 'Fanny' which was short for Frances.
I am really sorry, Jesse -- we don't seem to be able to find anything definite for your Reuben's baptism - his origins, despite the marriage certificate - are a mystery.
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Pennines it could be that you have hit the nail on the head , it could reasonably be Ric, as I said it takes a bit trying to put a name to it , before I posted earlier I sent a copy to my niece who lives i Wales and she and her husband who is welsh said they thought it was Ric, Jones so I could be wrong, at 87 my eyes are not what they used to be, wasn’t having the brides fathers name of any help.?
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Jesse -- the bride's father will help you trace the bride backwards.
Re the groom -- with a name like Jones, I am sure that someone in the family originally must have come from Wales. Trouble is we won't know who!
If you want the bride tracing -- I suggest you start a new topic with her name as the title.
In your opening message input what you now know -- ie Mary Ann Powell born in x circa (year) father on marriage certificate given as (his name).
That will prevent the 2 queries being intermingled.
Back to the possible Richard Jones --
A Richard Jones married a Frances Wood on 11 July 1821 in 'Fownhope with Fawleye' Herefordshire.
Whether it's your ancestor I don't know -- but this couple did go on to have a son Reuben in the same place in 1825.
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Pennines thank you for your input, I will Try and follow up your line of thought, the dates do correspond with what I know, I will dig a bit further an d see what I can come up with, and I woul be glad to come back to you if I come up with that is relevant . Jesse 123
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Details from a Rueben Jones Marriage lines are,
Rueben fathers signature is very hard to decipher as apparently he and his son could not right and someone else signed on there behalf, it maybe Ruebens father may have the same name the way the name started in my opinion,
the brides father was named David Powell and he was a Farmer, I believe Powell’s farm is still going, today or at least until a few years ago. Jesse 123
Hello Jesse123 - just wondering from the above marriage certificate you have
who were named as witnesses to the marriage
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What occupation does it give for Reuben and also his father
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To Ladyhawk, from what I can decipher the witnesses on a Ruebens marriage cert, was his own father and someone name Hill, problem with first name, looks like his fathers name might be Ric, not sure, thank you for enquiring.
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Jesse123 Thank you for your reply
What are their occupations of father & son?
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Lady Hawk they were Labourers. Thank you. Jesse 123.
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they were Labourers
Thank you - reading over your post again you weren't sure whether Reuben's father was named Reuben or perhaps Richard on his marriage certificate and Pennines had a look but couldn't find a baptism for father & son both named Reuben - neither could I ???
Jesse --- I am afraid I cannot find a baptism on line for a Reuben Jones born about 1824 with a father Reuben.
There is a baptism for a 'Ruben' Jones with a father Richard and mother Frances in 1825 in Fawnhope with Fowley, Herefordshire.
Might the name of the father on the certificate be Richard?
Also - if his father was Richard, you would have expected Reuben to name a son Richard - and he didn't (although he did name a daughter 'Fanny' which was short for Frances.
I am really sorry, Jesse -- we don't seem to be able to find anything definite for your Reuben's baptism - his origins, despite the marriage certificate - are a mystery.
A couple of possible 1841 censuses for you to keep in mind for the above baptism in Fawnhope for
Ruben Jones parents Richard & Frances
1841 census Jones Hill, Fownhope, Hereford & Dore, Herefordshire
Rubin JONES 16 bn Hereford occ Ag Lab
Mary Jones 14
They appear to be in the household of James 40, Penelope 40 & John Goodyer 7
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77Z-N2X
1841 census Piece: 421 Folio: 6 Page Number: 10
Common Hill, Fownhope
Richard JONES 53 occ Ag Lab.
Frances Jones 49
Charlot Jones 19
Pheby Jones 14
Eliza Jones 11
Henry Jones 9
Frances Jones 7
Hannah Jones 4
All noted as born in this county
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77Z-FJY
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Thank you Ladyhawk, But I think Richard Jones could indeed be Reubens father, the dates correspond and Ruebens eldest son was my fathers father, there are children of the same name in his family, George Henry was his name, I think we are on the right track there. Thank you for message, I will looking for those all important Baptism lines, thank you again. jesse12
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May I add my thanks Ladyhawk for the 1841 census for the possible Richard and Frances Jones. I never looked for that, as the father's name was uncertain.
By saying he was born in Mathon, Worcestershire -- Reuben was trying to confuse us!!
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The only baptism I can see for a RICHARD JONES (possible father of Reuben) -- is in 1793 in Fownhope with Fowley --- father Thomas Jones -- mother Priscilla.
This is slightly late for your Richard, Jesse --- if the age he has given in 1841 is correct.
In addition he and Frances are also on the 1851 census - still in Fownhope and he is still showing an age consistent with being born about 1788.
He is now an Agricultural Labourer.
No children are with him and Frances (Frances is shown as 61 - a Seamstress born in Kings Caple, Herefordshire.
They both may have died before 1861 - but I haven't yet looked for their deaths.
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Richard Jones MAY have died Q/E June 1856 in Hereford Registration District, aged 68.
Frances Jones MAY have died Q/E March 1859 in Hereford Registration District, aged 69.
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Pennines, thank you for your input , but the dates are about right, if he was born in 1793 and Reuben was born in 1824 Richard would be 31 By the time Reuben was married he would 52 ,or am I missing something.? .
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Pennines, thank you for your input , but the dates are about right, if he was born in 1793 and Reuben was born in 1824 Richard would be 31 By the time Reuben was married he would 52 ,or am I missing something.? .
I have printed out A copy of Reubens marriage lines and it is a little clearer, along the top is marriage solemnised at the Parish Church in the Parish of Fawnhope in the county of Hereford, and the vicar was looks like Thenerey, don’t know if that makes things any any better.?jesse123
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Jesse --- So the marriage certificate you have for Reuben - states HIS marriage occurred in Fawnhope! That is brilliant news.
Hence it's looking even more likely that the Reuben baptised in Fawnhope with parents Richard Jones and Frances Wood is the correct baptism. That is a breakthrough -- and excellent that you mentioned that, Jesse.
Just to recap - Richard Jones had married Frances Wood in 1821..
Richard states his birth year to be about 1788 - if that is correct Richard was 33 years old when he married Frances - and about 36/37 when Reuben was born (Reuben baptised in 1825)
Hence Richard was quite mature for those days if that marriage to Frances was his first marriage.
If his age on census records is wrong and he was born born in 1793 - then he was still in his late 20s when he married. It does seem likely these 2 are Reuben's parents though.
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Yes Pennines I think we are right , also I said he would be 52 when Reuben Married when if he was born In 1793 he would be 59, my mental arithmetic isn’t as good as 70 years or so .thank you for all the work you have put in, I will take a deep breath and see how much further i can go.thank you.
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The only baptism I can see for a RICHARD JONES (possible father of Reuben) -- is in 1793 in Fownhope with Fowley --- father Thomas Jones -- mother Priscilla.
This is slightly late for your Richard, Jesse --- if the age he has given in 1841 is correct.
In addition he and Frances are also on the 1851 census - still in Fownhope and he is still showing an age consistent with being born about 1788.
He is now an Agricultural Labourer.
No children are with him and Frances (Frances is shown as 61 - a Seamstress born in Kings Caple, Herefordshire.
A baptism for
Frances WOOD baptism 30 Nov 1795 King's Caple Hereford
father James Mother Mary
possible siblings of Frances
parents James WOOD & Mary Bpt King's Caple Hereford
Mary 30 Jul 1775
William 16 Jun 1777
Ann 29 Jan1780
James 29 Jan 1780
Sarah 22 Sep 1782
George 04 May 1794
Charlotte 25 Nov 1798
and possible baptisms two younger siblings of Rubin JONES
parents Richard & Frances
Frances Jones 19 May 1834 Fownhope with Fawley
Hannah Jones 15 Apr 1837 Fownhope with Fawley
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Thank you Ladyhawk, I think we have established that Ric Jones is Reubens farther ,on a closer perusal of Reubens Marriage lines I was able to see that Reuben and Mary Anne Powell Lived in Fawnhope, where Reuben was born. Thank you for all your input, I have more to do on this subject later today, thank you again. jesse123
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Hi Pennines, RE, Rueben Jones, I am going to apply for the Marriage certificate of Richard Jones and Frances Wood, but I need you to show me how to apply as my Daughter is unavailable I would be grateful if you would oblige, with your help we have accomplished a great deal and I wish to follow through as far as I can , thank you. jesse123
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Hi Jesse,
The Civil Registration of births, marriages and deaths only started in England and Wales on 1st July 1837. Before that date these events were not formally registered and we are dependant on the baptisms, marriages and burials registers kept by each parish where the event occurred.
As a result there is no formal marriage certificate for Richard and Frances.
There is a transcribed record of the event on the Family Search site (this is a free resource with millions of worldwide events recorded and it is run by the Church of Latter Day Saints. You can search it for free - but you need to register with the site first.
The website is here;
https://www.familysearch.org/search/
The record for Richard and Frances's marriage is attached to this message for you. As you will see in the parish records we don't receive the same amount of information that is included on the later, formal certificates.
The actual parish registers for the church concerned are probably held at Herefordshire Archives, but these are unlikely to show any additional information I'm afraid. Hence the further back we go - we have no census records with names before 1841 -- and we have no formal certificates before July 1837.
The next thing you can search for on that Family Search site are other children born to Richard and Frances (I think LadyHawk may have already posted the details of these) --- then search for the baptisms of Richard and Frances -- again try the Family Search free website.
Good Luck with it Jesse.
(For some reason I cannot attach the image - so I will copy what it says;
Name; Richard Jones
Event Type; Marriage
Event Date; 11 Jul 1821
Event Place; Herefordshire, England
Marital Status; Single
Spouse's Name; Frances Wood
Spouses Marital Status; Single
(From another website which requires a subscription to view records I can tell you that the location of the marriage was at Fownhope with Fawley.)
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To Pennines thank so much for your help, I will do as you suggest and see where it leads I will let you know how things go thank you again. jesse123.
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to Pennines, hi Pennines hope you are keeping safe, R,e , Ruben Jones search, I have carried on researchers since we Last chatted, and going on from Richard Jones , where we got to last time, I found his father was Thomas Jones and Priscilla Pocknell Mother, dates 1767, andThomas father Was Richard Jones 1743 , Mother Sarah Edwards 1742, then the trace went cold, I said I would come back to you, and I intend carrying on.
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That's great news Jesse -- you must be really pleased at finding these further back ancestors. It does get more difficult the further back you go -- you have got further back than I have with some of my lines!
Either there are too many with the same names OR no-one with that name in that particular parish. Still - it would be boring if it was too easy!
Keep up the good work -- and stay safe.
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Thank you Pennines it has taken hours of searching and I am sure I am on the right track, dates and names and the offsprings names have been running through the generations right up to today, and from talks with my mother when I was young. Thank you for all you help I will come back if I get any further keep safe and all on roots,.🙏
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Reuben Jones committed suicide in February 1864.
His son Charles lived with Mary Ann Powell's parents at Southend Mathon.
I am trying to find what happened to Charles's son Thomas henry Jones who was killed in the mines in South Wales during WW1 and have tried several avenues but drawn a blank at the moment.
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I am trying to find what happened to Charles's son Thomas henry Jones who was killed in the mines in South Wales during WW1 and have tried several avenues but drawn a blank at the moment.
Welcome to Rootschat :)
Could you give more details on Thomas Henry Jones if you have them please.
When was he born?
Do you have him on any censuses?
Did he marry?
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Welcome to Roots Chat from me also, Angela.
You haven't actually said where the mine was located -- but if you have access to Ancestry -- there is a data set UK Coal Mining and Deaths Index.
There are several people named Thomas Jones on this list who died during WW1 - but none are shown as Thomas Henry. The birth dates of the miners are given.
There should be something in the local papers - Historical Welsh Newspapers from the National Library of Wales are free to search - but I'm not sure what dates they cover.
https://newspapers.library.wales/
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Thomas Henry Jones was born in Mathon on 27 March 1881 fatherCharles mother Emma Calder brothers Albert and PercyJones. No details of the mine or date of death or if he was married. Have eliminated a lot of Thomas Jones's from mining records but there is a Thomas Jones killed at Llwynpia mine in 1913 who was right age but I have lost my notes where I got the info from!
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Have you thought of obtaining that particular death certificate Angela?
You could order a PDF copy (not as expensive as a paper copy) - from the General register Office on line.
You would need to register on the site first if you haven't already done so.
https://www.gov.uk/general-register-office
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Thomas Henry Jones was born in Mathon on 27 March 1881
father Charles mother Emma Calder brothers Albert and Percy Jones.
No details of the mine or date of death or if he was married. Have eliminated a lot of Thomas Jones's from mining records but there is a Thomas Jones killed at Llwynpia mine in 1913 who was right age but I have lost my notes where I got the info from!
Adding these details to help others looking
1881c Piece: 2582 Folio: 45 Page 12
Charles Jones 23 West Malvern Worcester, occ. Farm lab.
Emma Jones 20 Bosbury Hereford
Emma Jones 9 wKs Mathon
1891 Piece: 2052 Folio: 90 page 8
Charles Jones 33 Mathon Worcester, occ. Agricultural labourer
Emma Jones 30 Bosbury Hereford
Thomas Jones son 10 Mathon Worcester
Charlotte Calder mother in law 67
Robert Jones lodger 29
Albert Jones son 1
Is this Thomas on 1901 census?
His occ is dittoed can't make out second word
1901c Piece: 2784 Folio: 27 Page Number: 45
Amelia Newman 58
Chas J Newman son 20 occ General?
Thos H Jones boarder 20 Mathon, "
In a coal mining accidents & deaths index :
4 Mar 1913 Thomas Jones aged 32 of Glamorgan, haulier at Llwynpia Colliery (owned by the Glamorgan Coal Co Ltd), crushed by trams
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Good find, Ladyhawk on the mining accidents list -- I had looked at that list, but couldn't see him! (Need to go to SpecSavers -- AGAIN!)
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Re Reuben Jones was my great grandfather, I know he had a son Named Charles, but I can’t find any info about him yet.Jesse123
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Charles Jones was my Grandfather.He married Emma Calder and they lived at Tanhouse Mathon and owned a sand and gravel business which my Granddad Albert and his brother Percy took over.Another brother died in a mining accident. How are you related to Charles Jesse?
I found that Mary Anne found Reuben had hanged himself in West Malvern.He had been ill, visited the Doctor that morning and sadly killed himself. Must have been awful for her.
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Re Thomas Jones.Thanks that was the enntry I found and lost again so will try for death cert. I have already tried two but not our Tom as relatives don't fit.
Charles Jones is buried in Mathon Church yard.He married 3 times Emma Rose and Harriet.
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Sorry Charles was my Great Grandfather!
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Re Reuben Jones was my great grandfather, I know he had a son Named Charles, but I can’t find any info about him yet.Jesse123
Re Thomas Jones.Thanks that was the enntry I found and lost again so will try for death cert. I have already tried two but not our Tom as relatives don't fit.
Charles Jones is buried in Mathon Church yard.He married 3 times Emma Rose and Harriet.
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I have details of Charles Jones and family but none of Reuben's other children and their families
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Mathon Church records show a Charles Jones buried on 1-3-1899 of Southend Mathon. . I am unable to find connection to Reuben Jones. Reuben's son Charles died 13-1936 so it is not him.
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I have details of Charles Jones and family but none of Reuben's other children and their families
. Jesse123. I have details of some of Rueben,s other children, and I know he married Rose in Bilston where I live, at the age of 53
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Yes I have m.cert of Charles and Roseanna and her death cert.She died of pre eclampsia in 1913. I knew her daughter Nellie and there was Beattie and two boys. Nellie lived in Kidderminster but buried at Mathon.I don't know if Reuben's son James was child of Mary Bough.It seems like it as regards dates.I don't know what happened to Fanny either.There was also a Jack Jones who was a relative but I have no idea where he fits in.
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Yes I have m.cert of Charles and Roseanna and her death cert.She died of pre eclampsia in 1913. I knew her daughter Nellie and there was Beattie and two boys. Nellie lived in Kidderminster but buried at Mathon.I don't know if Reuben's son James was child of Mary Bough.It seems like it as regards dates.I don't know what happened to Fanny either.There was also a Jack Jones who was a relative but I have no idea where he fits in.
. Yes James was his son with Mary Baugh second son George Henry Jones was my fathers father, he married Drucilla York, and they had sixteen children, I have all those records, Ruebens wife Mary Powell married again after his death and had a son named Reynolds. Jesse 123.
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That is amazing.I would love to see your research and perhaps I could share mine with you.. Percy's Great Granddaughter is doing research too so we may get somewhere between us.
I have been over to Mathon to do fsmily graves today.Charles doesn't have his birthdate on it so will check that.I don't know where Emma and Rose are buried as headstones removed and Church lost the graveyard map!
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My father was James Thomas Jones and I had a brother name Percy Wiiliam, though everybody called him Bill. I would gladly like to show you my research, I have traced back from Rueben to a g-grandfather in 1670. I would be glad to share my tree with you if you could contact me I am on Facebook, you may be able to fill in some of my gaps for me, I had planned to go down to Mathon last year but the virus cut that out. Jesse 123.
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I am on Facebook too please send me a friend message and I will get in touch.Don't have your full name!