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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: Jonesey2 on Thursday 27 February 20 11:57 GMT (UK)
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I've found a cemetery record showing the burial of my 2x great grandfather Asa Willis at Kirkdale Cemetery on 14th February 1904. I was shocked to discover that his residence is shown as 'Workhouse' at Walton. I'd like to find some more information about his admission etc to the workhouse, but my online search hasn't found anything more. In 1901 he was living with his wife and six children at 20 Clarence Grove, Everton and working as a milk dealer, and I'm wondering how he ended up in a workhouse 3 years later.
Can anyone assist me or give me some ideas about where to look next (online)? I'd be grateful.
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Burial registers often have the place where the 'the body came from' listed under late residence. He may just have been there for the last weeks of his life as it would have nursing facilities
This workhouse web page should show what records are available
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/WestDerby/
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Ah - I see. That's a very likely explanation. Thank you so much for the info and the link.
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I don't think the admission records survive for Walton. Workhouses provided medical facilities and a lot of people went there towards the end of their life when either they needed support in old age or they were ill.
Blue
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My great grandparents both died in Rice Lane Workhouse - now Walton Hospital. One in 1904 and the other in 1905. Both were in the WH infirmary for nursing care.
Doctors charged a fee in those days and if somebody had long term medical needs or no money to pay a doctor - they were admitted to the WH infirmary
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I've found a cemetery record showing the burial of my 2x great grandfather Asa Willis at Kirkdale Cemetery on 14th February 1904. I was shocked to discover that his residence is shown as 'Workhouse' at Walton. I'd like to find some more information about his admission etc to the workhouse, but my online search hasn't found anything more. In 1901 he was living with his wife and six children at 20 Clarence Grove, Everton and working as a milk dealer, and I'm wondering how he ended up in a workhouse 3 years later.
Can anyone assist me or give me some ideas about where to look next (online)? I'd be grateful.
looks like he was a Butcher first ?
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Baptism: 1 Mar 1874 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Willis - [Child] of Asa Willis & Ann
Born: 28 Jan
Abode: Bond St.
Occupation: Butcher
Baptism: 5 Apr 1880 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Charlotte Willis - [Child] of Asa Willis & Ann
Born: 18 Mar 1880
Abode: Low Hill
Occupation: Butcher
Baptism: 11 Jul 1887 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ada Maud Willis - [Child] of Asa Willis & Anne
Born: 23 Jun 1887
Abode: Warburton St.
Occupation: Butcher
Baptism: 6 May 1889 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Henry Willis - [Child] of Asa Willis & Ann
Born: 22 Apr 1889
Abode: Everton
Occupation: Butcher
Baptism: 22 Dec 1890 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Eleanor May Willis - [Child] of Asa Willis & Ann
Born: 6 Dec 1890
Abode: Everton
Occupation: Butcher
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sorry but I can't find the 6th child - Asa Willis married Ann Williams 1872 in Bootle - St Mary church
there is an Asa Willis who married in 1864 in Sheffield ? do you know whether Asa was married before ?
he was born in Ponterfract in 1843 -( 1901 census says Bradford - but he was registered in Ponterfract ) only 2 records for Asa Willis - and the other is born in 1850 in Westbury -and dies in Westbury aged 44 in 1894 - so logically that has to be your Asa Willis who marries in Sheffield 1864 aged 21 .to Jane Taylor .
Asa and Jane had 2 children
Ann Elisabeth 1868
George William 1869.
Jane - his wife - died 1871
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Thank you for all the information. So much detail. Yes, Asa Willis was a pork butcher. He was firstly married to Jane Taylor, who died young, and as you say they had two children - George William died in infancy, and Anne Elizabeth was my great grandmother. She only had one surviving child, my grandfather, and he only had one child - my father, so it's a lonely family line - no cousins forthcoming from there.
I'm interested that you found another Asa Willis. It's an unusual name - I'd love to know where it came from and why none of his descendants have used it again.
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Hmmm I wonder - born in Everton.Liverpool - possible relation ??
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=tony+willis+boxer
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Asa willis was my great great grandfather
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Asa might have been in the workhouse if he was ill which was most likely his daughter died in workhouse of tb in 1933
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Hi Asa could have been ill that’s why he was in the workhouse as it was also a hospital for the poor to be treated.
I have lots of information regarding this line
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Hi mzmouse. Thanks for your reply. Asa was my great great grandfather too. His first wife was Jane Taylor - they married in Yorkshire and he moved to Liverpool after she died in 1870, aged just 30. They had a son George, who died in infancy, and a daughter Anne Elizabeth, who survived and married Robert Jones from Bangor. These were my great grandparents. Which of Asa's children are you descended from?
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Hi Asa married Ann Williams in Liverpool they had 11 children John Richard, Eleanor May, Walter, Ada Maud, Thomas Henry, Richard, Charlotte, William and Agnes May it is Agnes who was my great grandmother
John Richard emigrated to USA