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has anyone come across Rev John Maclean minister of Killean, Kintyre, married Annie McNeill daughter of Lachlan McNeill of Lossit House?
I would be very interested to know anything about the family and their children; what happened to them all and whether there is any written information to be found.
Does anyone have access to a long out of print book 'The Macleans of Borreray?'
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Have you tried Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae?
https://www.archive.org/stream/fastiecclesiaesc04scot#page/60/mode/1up
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Thank you; that is a very useful book. Rev John Maclean is not listed under Killean, but Kilmorie.
He is said to be the son of John Grishipol Maclean, married twice; first time to Annie McNeill of Lossit, but not much known about their family. I think this is a quote from the anonymous history of clan Maclean. Sinclair doesn't seem to know about the first marriage. I wonder if there is more to be said about him and this family? One person or two???
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Thank you; that is a very useful book. Rev John Maclean is not listed under Killean, but Kilmorie.
Ah, a different John MacLean who also married a MacNeill of Lossit.
This https://www.ecclegen.com/general-index-introduction/ includes an index and links to all the ministers named in the eight or so volumes of Fasti/FES.
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A heartwarming tale.
So now I need to work out who Hector is, and possibly to find Rev John of Killean's grave...which could be anywhere.
Also, I would dearly love to know the names of his grandchildren.
Realistically, my luck may have run out?
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I got to thinking it would be interesting to know a bit more about these two clergy families.
Does anyone know if there is a similar clerical directory for Ireland, and any other useful documents available online please?
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Hello bagpipe. Rev John is an ancestor of mine. I have been digging into the family's past for 40 years and have found that the written histories are a good starting point, but not necessarily 100% correct.
He was the son of John McLean of Grishipol, a gentleman of Clan McLean of Coll.
The name has been standardised to 'Maclean' for anyone of any section of the clan by writers and historians, but it was only the last Laird of Coll during the 19th century that adopted that spelling. John used McLean until he obtained his M.A. when he added the suffix 'e', as was traditional for graduates to become Rev. John McLeane. He graduated as Master of Arts M.A. Glasgow University on the 15th June 1672.
He became a professional soldier before taking up the Parish of Kilmory on the Isle of Arran.
About 1785 he married Annabelle McNeil of the Losset family. They had two daughters Margaret and Abigail McLeane. The family moved to Ulster after John was outed from the Church.
He became minister at Coleraine, then in 1701 under the patronage of Viscount Masserenne, he gained Antrim Parish while also holding Drummaul Parish.
His first wife Annabelle had died by this time, as the Christenings of his children to his 2nd wife Annie Cubbage start appearing in the Antrim Parish register.
To verify this info you may be able to find online ; ULSTER JOURNAL OF ARCHAEOLOGY 1896 No.1
He died whilst travelling in 1729 at County Antrim, leaving his son to clear his debts.
His eldest son John became Vicar of Billy in County Antrim. Another son Rev. James McLeane was incumbent of the Island of Rathlin, 1740 -1747.
His brother Lauchlan McLean of Grishipol became joint Bailie of Tiree along with Hugh MacLean of the Boreray family for Maclean of Duart. Lauchlan kept this position under Argylls takeover of the Maclean lands with resulting consequences.
Some books covering the family include 'From Clan to Regiment' Maclean-Bristol, and various Maclean Clan histories.
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On the basis of past reading I am sure this is so.
Do you know anything about Rev John's siblings? I have seen a family tree showing quite a number.
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Only the information above on Lauchlan.
The histories only list two other brothers. Hugh and Charles who was said to be a drover on Coll.
Often the sons names reveal uncles names. John's sons were John (his and his father) Laughlan (brother) Clotworthy ( his patron Clotworthy Skeffington, 4th Viscount Massereene) and James (possibly his wife's father's name or an unknown brother of his.
John born 1700, became Vicar of Billy Co. Antrim, and James born 1707 was Curate at Rathlin Island Co. Antrim. 1740-1747
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So Charles was a drover on Coll. That is interesting.
You have probably seen this before, but I found it quite interesting. I ve no idea how accurate it is.
clanmacleanatlantic.org/gen2.html
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My own McLean ancestors seem to have been on Tiree in the eighteenth Century. Do you know anything about the Grishipol family lines there?
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Lauchlan McLean of Grishipol was the joint Bailie of Tiree and leased a mill.
He would have lived there for a few years with his family until the Maclean/Argyll troubles flared and he had to flee for his life as an Argyll employee.
No other members of the family that I know of lived on Tiree.
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What of Charles? His work as a drover would have taken him away from home. Was he the Charles who married Elspet Monro and had a son Alexander in 1690? I don't know If he had other family, or what became of them.
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Try a post on the Kintyre Forum,
www.kintyreforum.com/viewforum.php?f=43
Skoosh
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Good stuff.
Does anyone know if this family, William McLean born Mull 1702, have any connection with the McLean of Grishipol?
www.findagrave.com/memorial/15088209
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Donald Maclean born 1729 ish married Margeret Macdonald; Caolas Tiree could be our ancestor. Some of their family moved to Kenovay.
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Folks, check out Professor Donald Meek's Tiree blog anent Caolas folk etc',
https://meekwrite.blogspot.com/
Skoosh.
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I'm interested to learn more about Charles McLean of Coll.
Is there a book about the drovers of the islands and the routes they followed?
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Haldane's "The Drove Roads of Scotland!"
Skoosh.
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Thank you for both of these, Skoosh. I think a book about Caolas is in the pipeline.
re Rev John The combination of soldier then minister is quite an old one, I understand. Droving sounds a more enjoyable pastime.
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@ Bagpipe, Haldane's book online for under a tenner, free shipping!
Skoosh.
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Maclean Bristol is more expensive, I fear, but no doubt a worthwhile read. One clan or two? is, as usual, sure footed, and so far as I know the only history of the Lochbuys. Could do with an index, though.
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Hello, I just joined this forum and I'm really surprised I knew nothing of it until now. I'm a co-admin of the Clan MacLean DNA project over at familytreedna .com. We NEED more people with known Scottish ancestry to join the project.. especially those with known connections to chiefly lines. We have 3 so far who have credible documentation back to chiefly lines but there is not enough to really understand what is going on... does Lochbuie have different DNA markers than Duart? Etc... It appears from this post we have a few MacLeans posting on this thread? Are any of you in the project? I'm trying to piece together a bit about the lines discussed here so that I can do a better job over there on the project.
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New area for me; what sort of test is required?
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Must surely be YDNA.
Skoosh.
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Needs an unbroken male line; not always possible.
Rev John Maclean 1688
Is anything known about his time as prebendary of Rasharkin? Assume it meant he had to live there.
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Bagpipe, yes it would be a Y DNA test. We have several to match with in the Kintyre area as well as on mull. Including a few with credible evidence of relation to chiefs. Yes, you don't know if the male line is unbroken until you test but it's possible. And even if it IS broken, sometimes people find out other things, interesting things, that happened with one of their ancestors. We have many broken lines but everyone is still a MacLean and still part of the project.
Finding out someone is actually a McDonald or Campbell from WAY back is actually fascinating given the knowledge we have of ancient clan history. We can definitely see clustering to find who is originally Irish versus Scottish and see clusters within Ireland and various areas of Scotland. Only the Big Y test is worth taking, the other ones give false matches. I hope you consider testing because we REALLY want MacLeans from Scotland to test so that we can learn more!
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Oh, and by the way... if you don't know of any male MacLeans of your line (can be a very distant cousin, or uncle... you should all match in Y DNA), then what we usually recommend is an ancestry.com DNA test with as much information built into your tree as possible. Ancestry will suggest matches, by name and you might find a male MacLean cousin that they you can test and follow the Y test as his administrator on FTDNA... And if you do have cousins who also SHARE the MacLean side (even a female cousin), then you can "triangulate" and look for MacLeans in common to further fine-tune that ancestry.com matching process. The closer you are to your MacLean ancestors, the more easy it is to find that male MacLean connection.
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Would still like to know more about the Revds John Maclean for general interest, and because it may interest others here. I had no idea that the Grishipol family was so extensive until I found the tree. Its a pity that Charles is not better documented, but I understand he may have had a son Alexander born 1690. No idea if he had any other family.
The other Revd John was one of the Boreray family who produced quite a number of ministers. Again, apart from the Ecclesiae Scotiae entries I don't know much about him.
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I do know that many people's trees claim Grisipol but I'm not sure if it's really known that his son Alexander is the same Alexander we see coming to America? IF YOU WANT, you should ask our Clan MacLean DNA Project main admin if he knows more about this line. macleandnaproject@gmail.com
We tried once to prove out a tree that someone in the project to Grisipo had but it didn't prove out so i know he has done some research.. Our admin, Duncan McLean also knows and has talked to the clan 'historian" Bristol-MacLean when necessary. He may or may not be able to help but it's worth a shot.
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Im pretty sure it is not. Nor is it Sir Alexander Maclean of Otter...nor anyone else known to the history books. However, I began this thread because of an interest in the 2 Rev Johns and their families, which took me to the Grishipols and Borerays.
If anyone knows the identity of the unknown Boreray I would really be interested. I don't think anyone has tackled it.
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Page 778 and following has quite a bit about the family of William McClean and Elizabeth Rule
archive.org/details/cu31924028864142
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Doesn't look like Rev John Grishpol had a brother called Alexander, whereas Rev John Killean did.
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Some books covering the family include 'From Clan to Regiment' Maclean-Bristol, and various Maclean Clan histories.
Does the book cover Colonel Moses McClean who fought in the American war of Independence?
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Professor James N.M. MacLean wrote a full length biography on his grandson, Lachlan Macleane, with information about his immediate ancestors, including Rev. McLean, Prebendary of Rasharkin and chaplain to the Massereenes: Reward Is Secondary, Hodder and Stoughton, 1963. Nicholas Maclean-Bristol has some information on this family (The MacLeans of Grishipol) in From Clan to Regiment, Pen and Sword Aviation, 2007. Both are well researched with extensive citations and bibliographies. I am conducting research on the MacLeans of Grishipol and would like to correspond with anyone having interest in this family.
Douglas McLean
29 Nov. 2020
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Regarding Charles (the drover) youngest son of John, 2nd of Grishipol: see From Clan to Regiment. Regarding history of cattle droving in the Hebrides: A.R.B. Haldane's seminal work, The Drove Roads of Scotland, Birlinn Origin, 2019.
Douglas McLean
29 Nov. 2020
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Regarding:
"Does the book cover Colonel Moses McClean who fought in the American war of Independence?"
No. However you will find an extensive biography on him and his family in this source at pp. 71-2:
HISTORY OF CUMBERLAND AND ADAMS COUNTIES, PENNSYLVANIA. Containing History of the Counties, Their Townships, Towns, Villages, Schools, Churches, Industries, Etc.; Portraits of Early Settlers and Prominent men; Biographies; History of Pennsylvania, Statistical and Miscellaneous Matter, etc., etc. CHICAGO: WARNER, BEERS & CO., 1886.
Douglas McLean
29 Nov. 2020
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Thank you for this. The identity of the progenitor on Mull c1680 remains a mystery?
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Regarding emigrating ancestor of Moses McClean:
Part of the biography of this family I cited yesterday reads thusly: "THE McCLEANS. —Among the earliest settlers in this portion of Pennsylvania, 1733, was William McClean, a Scotchman. Prom this man has come a long race of eminent and influential men. . . . The original William McClean settled in Montgomery County [Marylamd], and in two years removed to York County. He had nine children. His first was Archibald and second Moses, . . ." The account does not say from where in Scotland William came.
Douglas McLean
30 Nov 2020
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HISTORY OF UNIONTOWN PENNSYLVANIA p858 may be of interest.
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Hi,
I too have been researching Charles MacLean, the drover, as according to the research by MacLean Bristol, I am descended from him. MacLean Bristol's research paper (Tacksmen of Rum, 2004) identifies John MacLean, Elder of Guirdal (Isle of Rum) as the eldest son of Charles Maclean s/o John 2nd of Grishipol. Unfortunately no other sons or daughters are named in the research paper, but MacLean Bristol includes Hector and Lachlan as two other sons of Charles in a table at the end of the book From Clan to Regiment.
The family are referenced on p402 of Clan Gillean. In an annotation to Clan Gillean, MacLean Sinclair indicates that Charles was married to Janet, youngest dau of Neil of Drimnacross, (correcting/changing his record on p412).
John MacLean (Iain mac Thearlach) married Mary MacLean, dau of Allan (s/o Neil of Drimnacross) - so they were first cousins if Charles' marriage to Janet is correct. John is dead by 1764, and his son Allan is the tacksman of Guirdal at that time according to the 1764 Census of the small isles. Mary is still alive and living with her daughter Florry and Florry's husband Charles at the time of the census.
Interestingly, Rev John (brother to Lachlan and Charles) had a daughter Ann, who married John, s/o Allan s/o Neil of Drimnacross (ie Mary's brother), so it was a pretty tight knit family. Not surprising given that Lachlan, Rev John, Hugh, and Charles were great grandsons of the Laird of Coll (Hector 5th Coll), as were Mary and her brother John great grandchildren to Lachlan 7th Coll.
Hope this is useful (and not too confusing).
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Thank you for sharing such a detailed piece of research. I am guessing that there is no more information to be had for the other sons of Charles drover?
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In reply to diamondsue1967:
I am interested in the article you cite re. tacksmen on Rum. It is imperfectly cited in Clan as "See WHN&Q (2004)" at p. 306, which you seem to use. There is no such document. Apparently there are no issues of that publication from 2004. It is almost certainly, "Nicholas Maclean-Bristol, ‘Tacksmen in Rum’, WHN&Q, Series 3, No. 7 (January 2005), 19-23", which I do not have. Can you confirm?
The genealogies conflict on the parentage of Rev. John McLean (as he spelled his name), making him the brother, or the son, of Lachlan, 3rd of Grishipol. After a fair bit of research I conclude the latter is more likely.
I am interested in the Macleans of Coll (including John and Hugh, brothers of Lachlan of Grishipol and Charles the cattle drover, and Rev. McLean, son of Lachlan) who went to Antrim during the last two decades of the 17th century. There appears to be one or two in the main branch of Colls who went as well. Any information regarding the Antrim migrants would be welcome.
I am wrapping up some research on the issue of Charles MacLean and may be able to assist with your query regarding them in a few days.
Douglas McLean
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Douglas McLean, will you be writing your work up for sharing or publication? Coincidentally, I am currently looking at another Rum family, p401 of Maclean Sinclair.
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Douglas McLean, will you be writing your work up for sharing or publication?
Yes, I intend to publish a genealogy on the family of John McLean, born in Scotland c. 1690, migrated to Antrim c. 1699, migrated to Chester County c. 1720 with his family. He was my great (6x) great grandfather. I am happy to share draft material.
Douglas McLean
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Is anything known about the other tacksmen of Rum?
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Replies to Diamond Sue and to Bagpipe --
1) " . . . . MacLean Bristol's research paper (Tacksmen of Rum, 2004) . . . " This is an incorrect citation given in From Clan to Regiment. It is Tacksmen in Rum, Nicholas Maclean-Bristol, West Highland Notes & Queries, Jan. 2005, series 3, issue 7, p. 19, which I have now acquired and read.
See below.
2) Diamond Sue writes that Rev. John McLean " . . . had a daughter Ann, who married John, s/o Allan s/o Neil of Drimnacross . . . " James N.M. MacLean writes in Reward is Secondary that Rev. McLean's daughter Anne was born in 1704 and died the following year. The Antrim Parish Church baptism register gives her date of baptism as 21 Dec. 2004 with an addendum that she was buried 27 April 2005. What is your source for stating she married?
3) Diamond Sue, what is your line of descent from Charles? I don't see it in Tacksmen in Rum.
4) Bagpipe, the article cited above includes information on several of the tacksmen families on Rum. It can be purchased on line. I don't have the website address at hand, but if you send me an e-mail I will find it.
I am interested in hearing from anyone with an interest in this family, John MacLean, 1st of Grishipol, and his descendants.
Douglas McLean
douglasleemclean at aol dot com
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Correction --
In my last post I requested replies to an e-mail address. In compliance with forum rules, I will withdraw that and request replies by personal message if not including content of general interest.
Douglas McLean
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I will look out for the tacksmen paper next time I visit a specialist library. There are so many things I want to read. Look forward to reading yours, Douglas McLean.
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A Request For Bagpipe
You wrote several months ago:
"Do you know anything about Rev John's siblings? I have seen a family tree showing quite a number."
Can you be more specific about the "family tree"? The genealogies of which I am aware pertaining to Rev. John McLean (b. 1652) are the 19th century MacLean clan histories, From Clan to Regiment and, most comprehensive, Reward Is Secondary.
Douglas McLean
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A relevant tree can be found here clanmacleanatlantic.org/gen2.html
I do not know how accurate it is, but it may be of some use.
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Hello Douglas and Bagpipe
Firstly apologies that I have not responded to the thread sooner - 2021 has been a heck of a year, and I have only just returned to the RootsChat site. I must also apologise - i must have been vey tired when crafting my first email - you are absolutely correct Douglas that the article by MacLean-Bristol is WHNQ Series 3 Number 7 (Jan 2005) p19-23.
Douglas, you mention that you think Rev John MacLean who went to Antrim is more likely to the son of Lachlan 3rd of Grishipol, rather than his brother. This interests me, and i would like to hear more. I have based my understanding on the entry in Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae Vol 4 p62, which seems to align with Clan Gillean p402-403. And you are completely correct - I inadvertently mixed up two Rev John MacLeans - the father of Ann (or Anna) who married John MacLean of the Grishipol family was the son of Ewen of Treshnish.
You asked about my links to the Tackmen of Rum: I descend from Allan MacLean and Janet MacLean who emigrated to Australia in 1837 on the Brilliant. They are my 3x great grand parents. Allan’s mother was Marion MacLean, daughter of Hugh MacLean and Flora MacLean. Marion had been married to a Charles MacLean (who i will come back to), and was widowed by the time of the emigration. Janet was daughter of Hector MacLean and Mary MacLean - Hector was brother to Marion and therefore son of Hugh and Flora. That makes Allan and Janet first cousins - there is a lot of endogamy in my family - i also have a third line of descent from Hugh and Flora through intermarriage.
Hugh and Flora’s families are outlined in the Tacksmen in Rum - Flora born 1745 to John MacLean and Rachel Campbell in Kinloch Scrisort, and Hugh born 1739 to John MacLean and Marion MacQueen (Sandineesher). Hugh's lineage and Hugh and Flora's descendents are listed in Clan Gillean p 409 and Marion is referenced in para 1 line 10.
Flora’s family are outlined in Clan Gillean p395 (para 3 line 10). On that same page, para 2 outlines the third MacLean family listed in MacLean Bristols Tacksmen in Rum paper - that of John MacLean and Mary MacLean of Guirdal. In an annotation from the 2005 publication by Lulu Publishers of the Clan Gillean, MacLean Sinclair had made a note against the end of that para. “Allan had a son Charles. Charles married Marion, daughter of Hugh Maclean, and had by her Allan, Hugh, and six daughters. Charles died young. His wife and children emigrated to New Zealand or Australia.” This information accords exactly with our family structure, and so part of my research is to try to find out further information to support or disprove the annotated statement.
Footnote 12 in Tacksmen in Rum makes the connection between John MacLean of Guirdal as son of Charles, 4th son of John 2nd of Grishipol - ie Charles the Drover. MacLean Sinclairs annotations provide some more insights - albeit confusing - into Charles the Drover - annotated against p403 para 1, line 13, is a statement that Charles married Mary, daughter of Neil MacLean of Drimnacross. He has also annotated p412 para 1 line 3 where he references Neils youngest (?) daughter Janet to have married Charles of Gallenach - the annotation states to cross out “Gallanach” and insert “Grishipol”. There is much to unravel here…..
Douglas, I hope your research is going well, and i look forward to reading more when you are published. :)
Kind regards. Suzanne
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Welcome back, Diamond Sue,
Thanks for all this. Very helpful. I didn't know about the 2005 reprint of Clan Gillean with Sinclair's annotations and will order it. I've been using an earlier edition.
First, to answer your question regarding the confusion regarding the parentage of Rev. John McLean (brother or son of Lachlan, 3rd of Grishipol?) the clarification I can provide is involved and set forth in detail in a 40 page research document I've prepared on the Macleans of Auchnasaul and Grishipol which I would be happy to send as a PDF attachment to an e-mail. In short, the Ardgour MS (c. 1783, printed 1872) correctly stated he was the son of Lachlan, the position taken by Maclean-Bristol in From Clan to Regiment (Table 8). Seneachie (1838) using (often verbatim) Ardgour confused the lineage by inserting a brief comment on Charles the cattle drover in the wrong place in his draft. MacLean (1889) and Sinclair (1899) understandably misconstrued Seneachie and made Rev. McLean Lachlan's brother. Most subsequent historians relying on the latter two more recent and "most authoritative" clan histories perpetuate the error. I'm not sure what this forum allows regarding contact information, but if you can provide your e-mail address by some confidential means I would be happy to send the note.
As to Charles the cattle drover's wife, since Sinclair does not identify "Mary" as one of the six daughters of Neil of Drimnacross in his discussion of that family, I suspect his earlier annotation giving her as Charles' wife is a slip of the tongue and he is correct in identifying her in the later annotation as Janet.
My primary research interest at this time is in the Macleans of Auchnasaul and Grishipol who went to northern Ireland in the late 17th century. The research note I refer to above contains all I have discovered to date on these two Coll cadets, but little is known about their family members who went to Ulster, other than Rev. John McLean from the Grishipol family. The clan histories referred to above mention descendants of Ranald, son of Allan, 1st of Auchnasaul, and of John and Hugh, sons of John, 2nd of Grishipol, settling in Ireland. Would you take a look at Sinclair's annotations to see if he adds anything about the Auchnasauls and Grishipols who went to Ireland?
Kind regards,
Douglas McLean
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Hello Douglas,
I hope your research is going well. In your last post you mentioned you were looking into the families of the Macleans of Achnasaul. I am wondering whether you have come across more detail about a "John MacLean of Achnasaul" who married Una, daughter of Hector Roy of Coll (Clan Gillean p375 towards the end of para 2). Ive reviewed what i know of the Achnasaul line but cannot identify this John - he is not listed as a son in Clan Gillean for the relevant time frame. Interestingly on p 409 MacLean Sinclair suggests that Hugh son of Hector 1st of Muck married a daughter of the laird of Coll (and annotated "Hector Roy"). Obviously, the dates are out, as Hugh was killed in the Battle of Inverkeithing in 1651 - and there is a missing generation in the Clan Gillean as the John referred to is born around the mid 1690s. MacLean Bristol inserts a son "John" into the gap. My working hypothesis (which needs further exploring) is that perhaps these two "Johns" are one and the same. Either the historians mispoke, or perhaps "John" spent some time in Achnasaul after his cousins fled to Rum. Would welcome your thoughts. S
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Hi Douglas,
Following up on your question about whether MacLean Sinclair included annotations regarding the Achnasaul/Grisipol MacLeans who went to Ireland - unfortunately there are none beyond noting that Donald of Gunna was called "Donald Dubh". I shall keep an eye out for Irish references in my research tho, as its an interesting element to the history.
Kind regards. Suzanne
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Reply to Diamond Sue:
Forgive the long delay in responding to this. The only John Maclean who would qualify as an Auchnasaul Maclean of whom I am aware is John, son of Hector, 2nd laird of Auchnasaul. Maclean-Sinclair identifies him as "John Og in Auchnasaul -Mull" (From Clan to Regiment, p. 710) and indicates he is referred to in documents (unidentified) dated 1661 and 1692 (Table 7). He may be one of the descendants of Hector who Sinclair states went to Ireland (p. 397). I am working on the theory that he was the John McLean who was in Antrim as of 1709 and was a member of the Antrim Presbyterian congregation - my 7x great grandfather.
Although Sinclair identifies Hector's brother Donald and his issue as the Macleans of Auchnasaul, they descended from them and lived on Gunna, Coll and Rum. (The Auchnasaul Macleans were limited to Allan, Hector and Donald (Hector'sson), 1st, 2nd and 3rd lairds respectively. Donald drowned in 1687 and the cadet expired.) Since Sinclair treats Hector's brother Donald and his issue as the Macleans of Auchnasaul, he may be referring to Donald's grandson John as the "John Maclean of Auchnasaul" who married Una. That John served under Lachlan Maclean of Coll in the Scots Brigade in the 1680s. (Clan, p. 201).
Hope this helps, sue.
Douglas McLean
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Correction:
The author misidentified in my last as "Maclean-Sinclair" is Nicholas Maclean-Bristol. Apologies.
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has anyone come across Rev John Maclean minister of Killean, Kintyre, married Annie McNeill daughter of Lachlan McNeill of Lossit House?
I would be very interested to know anything about the family and their children; what happened to them all and whether there is any written information to be found.
Does anyone have access to a long out of print book 'The Macleans of Borreray?'
There was another Rev John Maclean who was Minister of Killean. He was born about 1694 at Kilmoluaig Island of Tyree, s/o Charles "Tearlach MacNeill Ban" Maclean & Florence Maclean. Charles' father Neil was 7th of Boreray.
Rev John was married abt 1729 to Ann McNeill d/o Hector McNeill of Losset, their son Charles born c1731 Killean. Rev John died 17 Jun 1743 at Killean. He was probably buried in the old part of Killean Cemetery, not far from Muasdale.
Source A History of the Clan Maclean p274
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Fasti Ecclesiae vol 4 p60
John M'Lean a native of Mull s of Charles M'Neil Ban M. ord. 8 May 1728 d 17 June 1743 married Anne d of Hector McNeil of Lossit. she died June 1767 and had issue Charles, Florence- (Clan MacLean).
Same person and if so, who is right?
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Yes, same Rev John, except he wasn't a native of Mull if he was born at Kilmoluaig in Tyree. His wife was Ann McNeill but was she dau of Hector or Lachlan?
John appears to have been the youngest son, his eldest brother Donald "Fear Chilmoluthaig" was Factor of Brolas, later Tacksman of Kilmoluaig. Donald's son Archibald born c1734 is recorded as Tacksman of Kilmoluaig. Source NMB, "Chart of Children and Grandchildren of Charles MacNeil Ban" 2nd Jul 2013.
Rev John's parents were natives of Mull, but he was born at Hynish Tyree.