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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => England => Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests => Topic started by: gazza1966 on Friday 28 February 20 18:49 GMT (UK)
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Hi There,
Please can anyone point me in the right direction on regiments that were stationed at Newport on the Isle of Wight in 1824.
Kind Regards
Gary
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Are you able to focus on a particular month? The newspapers available on Findmypast have 80 hits for reports relating to different regiments through the year at Albany Barracks - you could trawl those listing all the regiments as you go.
It appears to be the only barracks listed in an 1833 guide to the IoW;
https://archive.org/details/atopographicala00shergoog/page/n5/mode/2up/search/barracks
MaxD
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Hi MaxD,
Thanks for answering and pointing me in the right direction.
My ancestor is William Tiffin baptised 4th July 1824 St Thomas of Canterbury, Newport, Isle of Wight, son of John Tiffin b.c1794 and Ellen Bolan b.c1794
William married Jane Vigurs in 1859 Plymouth, Devon. stating Profession of Father:(Deceased)John private of the 77th Regiment.
I looked up the 77th Regiment, they wasn't on the Isle of Wight in 1824 they were elsewhere, so i'm wondering John Tiffin was with another regiment at that time.
Regards
Gary
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His name doesn't bring up anything in the (sparse) on line records for that time as far as I can tell from Ancestry and Findmypast.
MaxD
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John Tiffin attested for 77th Regiment at Portsmouth on 13 July 1813 aged 16 born Braintree. One of several young men from Essex recruited via the East Essex militia. A bricklayer.
To Corporal 28 August 1823
To Sergeant 5 November 1826
Died 7 October 1831 at Stony Hill, Jamaica if I am reading the record correctly.
https://tinyurl.com/vokeye6
https://tinyurl.com/udw2qcr
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Fine spot again ShaunJ.
MaxD
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I see the difficulty..
https://archive.org/details/recordsseventys00woolgoog/page/n70/mode/2up
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Another child Mary Ann Tiffin was baptised in Galway on 11 April 1820, parents John (77th Regiment) and Eleanor (nee Bolan). https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/61039/02436_10_0019
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I'm guessing that when John Tiffin sailed for Jamaica with his regiment, wife Ellen/Eleanor travelled from Ireland to Newport IoW to be with friends or relatives. It would be interesting to know who were the sponsors at that 1824 RC baptism.
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Hi ShaunJ,
Thankyou so much for the useful info.
I'm over the moon giving me John's birthplace, so i can try of going further back.
If you come across anything else, please send it my way. ;), especially coming across the marriage of John Tiffin and Ellen Bolan, there is a possibility Ellen may of been Irish.
Regards
Gary
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Hi,
These give some info about the 77th regiment and might show why John was on the Isle of Wight in 1824,
Sun (London) 11 February 1824
The Depots of the 23d (Royal Welch Fusileers), the 77th (East Middlesex), and the 93rd (Highland) Regiments of Infantry have received orders to embark from Ireland, on board the Joseph Green transport for the Isle of Wight.
Hampshire Chronicle 08 March 1824
COWES - Part of the 77th regiment this week disembarked from the transport ship Joseph Bell, from Cork for Albany.
I also found this baptism for William, image 194 (which is page 189 of the booklet)
https://issuu.com/tcrs/docs/volume59
and this marriage, I can't see an image to see if it has been mistranscribed at Ancestry or FindMyPast.
John FIFTEN
Eleanor BOLAND
8 Feb 1818
Saint Munchin, Limerick , Ireland
Regards,
Daisy
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Hi Daisy,
Yes ;D thankyou for for all your time on finding so much useful information, especially the marriage misspelled.
Daisy about the marriage, is there anymore info on the fathers of the bride and groom.
Thanks
Gary
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Hi There,
Please can anyone point me in the right direction on regiments that were stationed at Newport on the Isle of Wight in 1824.
Kind Regards
Gary
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I certainly had overlooked the possibility of the regiment having a small number of men there in their depot which Daisy's excellent find highlights. Interesting that the historical record doesn't mention the move of the depot.
MaxD
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I'm not seeing any marriages in February 1818 in St Munchin's register
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635033#page/125/mode/1up
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Hi,
I couldn't see it there either, it left me very confused ???
Today I've found that FindMyPast has an image of "Irish Parish Register Marriages, Ffolliott Collection" (it's just a typed list) that says ,
St Munchin's Parish
08 Feb 1818
FIFTEN John
&
BOLAND Eleanor of this Parish, by Banns, by me John DUDDELL
The Revd. John DUDDELL was the Rector of St Munchin's Church of Ireland church,
https://www.limerick.ie/sites/default/files/atoms/files/street_art_and_artefacts_limerick_city.pdf
So two St Munchin's, one Catholic and one Church of Ireland. :o ::) ;D
Unfortunately it looks like the Church of Ireland images aren't online.
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/church.php?civilparishid=1627&civilparish=St%20Munchin&search_type=full
As their son William was baptised in a RC church I wonder why they married as COI, maybe it was because John wasn't Catholic :-\
Daisy
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I think I've found another child,
Roman Catholic
Parish: St Mary's Cathedral, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Baptismal Register 1822
Born March 1st
Helen lawful daughter of John TIFFIN and Helen BOLAN born at Edinburgh the first of March was baptised my me on the tenth of the same month one thousand eight hundred and twenty two at the Roman Catholic Chapel. sponsors John EDMONDS & Helen MARSHALL. = John BREMNER
This would fit with where the regiment was, as found in the archive records by ShaunJ. :)
Daisy
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Hi Daisy,
Thankyou so much for all your time on finding ancestors i never knew about.
Regards
Gary :)