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Title: walter c sharris
Post by: hell27 on Tuesday 10 March 20 04:45 GMT (UK)
i am looking for any family of Walter charlie Sydney Harris born  around 1800 isle wright he was sailor he an his wife  moving to new Zealand  he had  i think 4 children  son Walter c s Harris born 1873 new Zealand  Auckland  wife tawa paniora born 1912 Walter an tawa had 4 children Walter , goerge, Helen Doreen than tawa left Walter  an took the children to her family in wellington an lefted them with family an went to another man parata an had 4 or 5 another children all girls  i am looking for family from isle wright   
Title: Re: walter c s harris
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 10 March 20 04:50 GMT (UK)
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I’m finding your post a tad confusing. You say,  ‘son Walter c s Harris born 1873’. So, he was conceived when his father was aged around 73?

When did the father die and what was his wife’s name?

I cannot see a Walter Harris born NZ in 1873, on NZBDM.

The marriage: 1929/2592 Tawa PANIORA to Walter Charles Sidney HARRIS

Jamjar
Title: Re: walter c s harris
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 10 March 20 05:11 GMT (UK)
There are 3 deaths of the same name:

1949/26183 Harris Walter Charles Sidney 76Y - This is the man who arrived in NZ with wife and children.

At Karori Cemetery: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p59/

1978/30589 Harris Walter Charles Sidney 23 December 1932 - a son of Tawa and Walter?

At Waikumete Cemetery: https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=AD3E84997167A21C30FCD5CC6088E919

1979/42768 Harris Walter Charles Sidney 11 March 1904 - I can’t see a birth for this one either. Is this the one who married Tawa?

At Kelvin Grove Cemetery (located by Kiwi-terrier, for me): https://www.pncc.govt.nz/services/cemetery-and-cremation-search/warrant/?id=6889

Jamjar
Title: Re: walter c sharris
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 10 March 20 05:41 GMT (UK)
Where have you got your information from?

Do you have the marriage cert for Walter and Tawa?

Do you have the death certs for the Walter who died in 1949 and the Walter who married Tawa?

I think you would be best to have this on the NZ board first.

Jamjar
Title: Re: walter c sharris
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 10 March 20 06:14 GMT (UK)
His birth in UK:

HARRIS, WALTER  CHARLES SIDNEY mmn KELLEY 
GRO Reference: 1873  M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND  Volume 02B  Page 428

Two others:

Walter Charles HARRIS married Florence WOSKETT 1898
HARRIS, WALTER  CHARLES SIDNEY mmn WOSKETT 
GRO Reference: 1899  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 370

This is the family that came to NZ:

Walter Charles S HARRIS married Eliza BRIDGER.

Mar 1896 Poplar 1c 651
HARRIS Walter Charles S
BRIDGER ELLEN

HARRIS, ELLEN  MAUD MARGUERITE mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1896  D Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 164

HARRIS, MARIA  JANE mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1899  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 66

HARRIS, ELIZABETH  RUDLIGE JESSIE mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1902  M Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 188

HARRIS, WALTER  CHARLES SIDNEY mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1904  J Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 59

HARRIS, JESSICA  WINIFRED mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1908  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 117

1901 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9NH-6GZ
1901, daughters on next page: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9NH-6G6

We need to find his entry into NZ and wife’s name for the one born 1873.

Marriage in NZ: 1931/5427 Jessica Winifred HARRIS to Anthony Henry William McPHERSON
Deaths:
1963/25222 McPherson Anthony Henry William 59Y
1984/48518 McPherson Jessie Winifred 7 July 1910
Burial and headstone photo: https://cemeterysearch.gdc.govt.nz/detail/TARUHERU*26531

Death: 1970/43901 HARRIS Ellen Maud Marguerite   74Y


Jamjar
Title: Re: walter c sharris
Post by: hell27 on Tuesday 10 March 20 07:47 GMT (UK)
thank you  is there any family living around isle wright please
Title: Re: walter c sharris
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 10 March 20 07:54 GMT (UK)
thank you  is there any family living around isle wright please

What makes you think there would be, family still in Isle of Wight? Although the father of Walter, born 1873, was born Isle of White, his family were in West Ham, London by 1881. It is also where Walter Charles Sydney married and had the children, before coming to NZ.

I still can’t see how you have arrived at ‘Walter charlie Sydney Harris born  around 1800 isle wright’.

Your NZ lot arrived sometime after 1901.

You need to find the father of the 1873 Walter, then there will be the father of that father before you get back to 1800.

Jamjar
Title: Re: walter c sharris
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 10 March 20 08:26 GMT (UK)
Think I may have them in 1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27C-Y28Q

HARRIS, WALTER  CHARLES SIDNEY mmn KELLEY 
GRO Reference: 1873  M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND  Volume 02B  Page 428

HARRIS, GEORGINA  COVENEY mmn KELLY 
GRO Reference: 1876  M Quarter in WEST HAM UNION  Volume 04A  Page 68

HARRIS, WINIFRED  JESSIE mmn KELLEY 
GRO Reference: 1878  D Quarter in WEST HAM UNION  Volume 04A  Page 52

Working on Laura and Maud. Maybe from a previous marriage.

Possible marriage:

Mar 1870 Portsea 2B 477
HARRIS Walter
ROBERTS Ellen

1871, Ellen was ROBERTS. Walter is a seaman:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFDF-J3K

A possible christening in 1831: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JM9Z-PBW

Possible 1841: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M798-1CJ

1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGP2-NS4

1861: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M742-9NN

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD8H-4BQ

Cemetery details and headstone inscription for Hannah and son Charles. Click on the PDF file bottom left of page for more information: https://rshg.org.uk/graves/mrs-hannah-harris-2/

Cemetery details and headstone photo for Charles: https://rshg.org.uk/graves/mr-charles-harris/

Mar 1843 I of Wight 8 329
HARRIS Charles
HUMBER Hannah

MARRIAGE: 23rd Mar 1843 St. Helens Church, IW.
Charles HARRIS. Full/age. Bachelor. (father: George HARRIS)
Hannah HUMBER. Full/age. Spinster. (father: George)

Jamjar
Title: Re: walter c sharris
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 10 March 20 22:54 GMT (UK)
thank you  is there any family living around isle wright please

What exactly are you looking for?

You should note that Rootschat is not a resource for finding living people. It only deals with deceased relatives and ancestors.

You may like the change your heading to Walter Charles Sidney Harris, (currently, it shows the surname as SHARRIS) as it may attract someone connected to the family.

Jamjar
Title: Re: walter c sharris
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 11 March 20 05:06 GMT (UK)
Link to information on NZ board: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=826901.msg6907376#msg6907376

Jamjar
Title: Re: walter c sharris
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 11 March 20 05:37 GMT (UK)
Information pertaining to wife of Walter Charles Sydney who went to NZ.

Her parents marriage:

Mar 1855 St Geo Sk 1d 103
BRIDGER EDWARD
FOSTER Elizabeth Rutlidge

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27S-Y78X

BRIDGER, ELIZABETH  RUTLEDGE mmn FOSTER 
GRO Reference: 1856  D Quarter in NEWINGTON  Volume 01D  Page 167

BRIDGER, EDWARD  JAMES mmn FOSTER died 1859
GRO Reference: 1859  M Quarter in SAINT MARY MAGDALEN BERMONDSEY SURREY  Volume 01D  Page 57

BRIDGER, MARIA  JANE mmn FOSTER 
GRO Reference: 1861  M Quarter in SAINT MARY MAGDALEN BERMONDSEY SURREY  Volume 01D  Page 95

BRIDGER, JOSHUA mmn FOSTER 
GRO Reference: 1862  D Quarter in SAINT MARY MAGDALEN BERMONDSEY SURREY  Volume 01D  Page 73

BRIDGER, MARY  ANN SUSANNAH mmn FOSTER 
GRO Reference: 1865  J Quarter in SAINT MARY MAGDALEN BERMONDSEY SURREY  Volume 01D  Page 61

BRIDGER, EDWARD mmn FOSTER 
GRO Reference: 1867  J Quarter in SAINT MARY MAGDALEN BERMONDSEY SURREY  Volume 01D  Page 79

BRIDGER, ELIZA mmn FOSTER 
GRO Reference: 1870  M Quarter in POPLAR UNION  Volume 01C  Page 675

BRIDGER, HENRY  WILLIAM mmn FOSTER 
GRO Reference: 1872  M Quarter in POPLAR UNION  Volume 01C  Page 654

They are hiding from me in 1861 and 1871.  :-\

Possible death of folks:

BRIDGER, EDWARD    51 
GRO Reference: 1885  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 448

BRIDGER, ELIZABETH    62 
GRO Reference: 1896  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 373

Jamjar
Title: Re: walter c sharris
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 12 March 20 03:33 GMT (UK)
Marriages:

Mar 1876 W. Ham 4a 55
NORTON William
BRIDGER Elizabeth

Death:

NORTON, WILLIAM  HORACE    71 
GRO Reference: 1925  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 81

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27S-Y77J

1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL9W-7N2

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9N3-8B4

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWFQ-CGF

NORTON, ELIZABETH  ROUTLEDGE PEREGRINE mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1877  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 643

NORTON, MINNIE  CAROLINE MARIA mmn BRIGHER 
GRO Reference: 1878  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 623

NORTON, ADA  EMMA mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1880  S Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 598

NORTON, WILLIAM  EDWIN mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1882  S Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 617

NORTON, HORACE  HENRY mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1884  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 151

NORTON, EDWARD  THOMAS mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1886  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 185

NORTON, FLORENCE  AMY SWANSON mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1889  M Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 105

NORTON, FRANK  FREDERICK mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1896  J Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 132

NORTON, MARIE  CLAUDIAS mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1898  D Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 139

Possible:

Dec 1883 Mile End 1c 1089
SIMPSON William
BRIDGER Mary Ann

1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QM2N-5W2

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X94F-JF1

Possible 1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWP8-1Y1

SIMPSON, MARY ANN ELIZA mmn BRIDGES 
GRO Reference: 1884  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 711

SIMPSON, WILLIAM mmn BRIDGET 
GRO Reference: 1887  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 706

SIMPSON, ELIZABETH BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1889  S Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 647

SIMPSON, HENRY mmn BADGER 
GRO Reference: 1892  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 639

SIMPSON, MINNIE mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1897  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 661

SIMPSON, LILY mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1899  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 562


Dec 1884 Poplar 1c 1144
WILES Frank Frederick   
BRIDGER Maria Jane

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X94F-JN3

Deaths:

WILES, MARIA  JANE    65 
GRO Reference: 1927  M Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 170

WILES, FRANK  FREDERICK    68 
GRO Reference: 1931  D Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 132
 

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9NH-HYV

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWFQ-RZM

WILES, MARIA  JANE mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1888  J Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 13

WILES, EDWARD  ALFRED mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1890  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 88  Occasional Copy: A

WILES, ALFRED mmn BRIDGER   
GRO Reference: 1895  D Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 133

WILES, ELIZABETH  SUSAN mmn BRIDGER 
GRO Reference: 1901  J Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 118
Title: Re: walter c sharris
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 12 March 20 05:35 GMT (UK)
Mar 1882 Poplar    1c 785
BRIDGERS    Joshua   
GODDEN Annie    

Possible deaths:

BRIDGER, ANNIE    49 
GRO Reference: 1915  M Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 156

BRIDGER, JOSHUA    60 
GRO Reference: 1924  D Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 86

1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QMD8-HZM

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9NH-291

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWFQ-PJG

BRIDGER, HENRY  WILLIAM mmn GODDEN 
GRO Reference: 1885  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 610

BRIDGES, ANNIE  LOUISA CAROLINE mmn GODDEN 
GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 609

BRIDGER, CHARLES mmn GODDEN 
GRO Reference: 1889  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 631

BRIDGER, ELIZABETH  RUTLEDGE mmn GODDEN 
GRO Reference: 1892  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 623

BRIDGER, WILLIAM  HORACE mmn GODDEN 
GRO Reference: 1894  J Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 597

BRIDGER, HORACE mmn GODDEN 
GRO Reference: 1896  D Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 90

Jamjar
Title: Re: walter c sharris
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 12 March 20 05:58 GMT (UK)
1891: Mother Elizabeth, WIDOWED, with sons Edward and Henry:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QMDD-F3Z

Sep 1896 Poplar 1c 954
BRIDGER Edward
EVERETT Sophia   

Sophia 1st marriage:

Jun 1893 Poplar 1c 956
EVERETT William
TITCHEN Sophia

Deaths:

BRIDGER, EDWARD    63 
GRO Reference: 1931  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 554

BRIDGER, SOPHIA    72 
GRO Reference: 1942  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 214

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X94F-LY9

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWPD-HWV

EVERETT, WILLIAM  HENRY mmn TITCHEN 
GRO Reference: 1894  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 640

BRIDGER, CAROLINE mmn TITCHEN
GRO Reference: 1898  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 639

BRIDGER, SOPHIA  ESTHER MMN TITCHEN 
GRO Reference: 1900  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 692

BRIDGER, JOHN  ALEXANDER mmn TITCHEN  died 1909
GRO Reference: 1903  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 567

BRIDGER, JOSHUA mmn TITCHEN
GRO Reference: 1905  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 537

BRIDGER, SARAH  ANN mmn TITCHEN 
GRO Reference: 1910  J Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 540

BRIDGER, NORAH mmn TITCHEN 
GRO Reference: 1914  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 951

I can’t see the children in 1911, but I think Sophia E marries in 1922, so she has to be somewhere.


Dec 1898 Poplar 1c 1097
BRIDGER Henry
MARSHALL Pauline

I can’t pinpoint deaths for them.

I think Pauline may have remarried:

Jun 1921 W. Ham 4a 736   
HERMAN Edwin H
BRIDGER Pauline

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9N4-1JN

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWF3-GGQ

No children to 1911.    

Jamjar