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Title: Isaac Johnston
Post by: augereau on Tuesday 10 March 20 08:29 GMT (UK)
Hello to all rootschatters!
Some time ago, I posted a message about my great grandfather Issac Johnston on the Co Armagh page because he lived there.  However, according to 1901 and 1911 census he was born in Co Tyrone. His birth date would be 1857....  I wonder if it is possible to obtain his birth certificate.  I am looking for his mother's name.  Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Liz
Cognac, France
Title: Re: Isaac Johnston
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 10 March 20 08:47 GMT (UK)


Birth Certs start 1864.

Title: Re: Isaac Johnston
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 10 March 20 08:50 GMT (UK)

you could try searching

https://cotyrone.com/cotyrone/index.html

and

https://cotyrone.com/churchrecord/index.html



Title: Re: Isaac Johnston
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 10 March 20 09:21 GMT (UK)
Birth Certs start 1864.

As hallmark says read this:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/news/154-update-to-the-civil-records-3
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

KG

Title: Re: Isaac Johnston
Post by: augereau on Monday 16 March 20 08:07 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for your help. I will continue searching with your advice.
best, Liz Augereau 
Title: Re: Isaac Johnston
Post by: hallmark on Monday 16 March 20 08:32 GMT (UK)


How many Johnston threads do you have?

There are bits about them in one county, bits about them in another county and bits about them in yet another county, can these not be collated into a lineage on one post?




Title: Re: Isaac Johnston
Post by: augereau on Monday 16 March 20 10:01 GMT (UK)
I have lots and lots of Johnston threads, on both sides of my family !!

However, Isaac Johnston & his family lived in the city of Armagh on the Mall.  It just so happens that I discovered his parents, William & Rachel Johnston, living on a farm in Middletown, Co Armagh.  That is about 5 miles from Armagh city. In the 1901 & 1911 census, Isaac is living in Armagh city but he has a list of siblings living in Middletown. 
On both census Isaac was born in Co Tyrone and all the others in Middletown, Co ARmagh.  That is why I would like to find out why Isaac was born in Tyrone!!
Liz
Title: Re: Isaac Johnston
Post by: hallmark on Monday 16 March 20 10:04 GMT (UK)


Have you Links to things being referred to?


Title: Re: Isaac Johnston
Post by: hallmark on Monday 16 March 20 10:18 GMT (UK)


Civil Reg  Marriage results for William Johnston from ? to 1900

LINK
  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p6k/

one can Filter for Decade or by District if known

Title: Re: Isaac Johnston
Post by: hallmark on Monday 16 March 20 10:21 GMT (UK)


Marriage results for Isaac Johnston from ? to 1900

see if his address is in Tyrone


LINK
   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p6l/


Title: Re: Isaac Johnston
Post by: augereau on Monday 16 March 20 11:31 GMT (UK)
William Johnston & Rachel Wright were married in the Presbyterian Meeting House in Lislooney, Co Armagh on 29th July 1857.

Their son Issac Johnston & Lizzie Macauley were married in 1st Presbyterian Church, Armagh on 25th January 1883.

1901 Census : http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Middletown/Doogerry/1019395/

1901 Census : http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Armagh_Town/Mall/1009904/
Title: Re: Isaac Johnston
Post by: hallmark on Monday 16 March 20 13:13 GMT (UK)


Makes sense....  Rachel W did have kin just over the border in Tyrone. She could easily have gone to a family member to give Birth.

3 counties meet there.

Title: Re: Isaac Johnston
Post by: Suki44 on Sunday 10 May 20 14:54 BST (UK)
Are you sure about the parents of this particular Isaac Johnston, a carpenter & builder who lived in Linen Hall St & The Mall Armagh. I hadn't been able to find the mother's name myself. I only know that his father's name was William. Isaac had a brother Joseph Johnston also born in Tyrone in August 1863. Joseph enlisted in the RIC in Feb. 1882 and mainly served in Belfast. I calculated his age from his RIC service record. Joseph was married in March 1889 in Belfast to Elizabeth Drew. Isaac is the only sibling I'm sure about. Are all the siblings on this forum definite.