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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: Peggy13 on Friday 13 March 20 21:39 GMT (UK)
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I have been looking for the death of Margaret Lennox, nee Marshall, who was the mother of Rachel Margaret Lennox baptised Apr 7, 1844 at Wood's Chapel. Rachel's father was John Lennox.
I have found the death of a Margaret Lennox on Sept 13, 1896 in Aughrim, widow of a farmer. If this is the correct Margaret, she had a daughter Mary who lived in Bristol, who was present at death. But I can't make out the surname of the daughter. Could anyone help me?
Rachel was the second wife of Andrew Johnston and their marriage was Aug 13, 1875 at Wood's Chapel. I have a post about Andrew and his first wife on the Co. Tyrone site but I don't know how to link these posts. Andrew was from Urbal, Coagh, Co. Tyrone and his father was Joseph but I don't have Andrew's mother's name.
If I knew Mary's surname, perhaps I could find her in Bristol, and see if it is possible that she is Margaret Lennox nee Marshall's daughter.
thanks
Peggy
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Mary Slat** not quite Slater is it Slathes or ?
Have you looked for a Mary Lennox marriage - to a Slat* to see if you can find one living in Bristol
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Marriage Bristol Sep 1877 has this possible offering
Rosena Allen
George Griffin
Mary Lennox
Joseph Millard Slatter
has to be worth investigating
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Marriage 5 Jul 1877
Joseph 25 a draper 20 West St Bristol
Mary 29 15 Paul St Bristol
1891 census has Mary born Ireland
does the census address match the address on the death? Bishop Street
1901 census has Mary born Co Derry Ireland
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If you think this is right can look up more if you need it.
There are 2 sons
Albert Edward Slatter bap 8 Dec 1878
Joseph Lennox Slatter bap 21 Jul 1880
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Thank you Milliepede. You are definitely on the right track. With the information that you have sent, I found another daughter Margaret Lennox Slatter born in 1881.
Mary Lennox was born in Co. Derry, for sure, if she belonged to John Lennox and Margaret Marshall. She would be a younger child as I have Rosanna 1830, Edward 1832, Francis John 1834, possible Matthew 1838,for sure Rachel Margaret Lennox 1844 and now Mary 1848. From Margaret's death cerificate, we know that Mary was her daughter, but is this person Margaret nee Marshall? I really think so.
You are terrific and have helped so much. Mary's address at the time of the death of her mother Margaret was 2 Bishop Street, St. Paul's, Bristol. I don't know if that agrees with the census for 1901 as I don't have ancestry.
Now I need to verify if John Lennox and Margaret Marshall had a daughter Mary abt 1848. You are terrific. Thank you again
Peggy
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There is an Albert E. Slatter born abt 1879 who emigrated to New York in 1907, final destination Winnipeg, Manitoba. Probably son Albert to Joseph Slatter and Mary Lennox.
Peggy
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I have ordered Joseph Millard Slatter's will. Expected date of delivery Mar 29,2020. I hope so. Last ones that I ordered took several months.
Peggy
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I don't know if that agrees with the census for 1901 as I don't have ancestry.
Yes it does :)
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Peggy13
If you have a FindMyPast subscription at moment, there seems to be a few mentions of J Slatter and Mrs Slatter, 2 Bishop Street , in Bristol newspapers of 1890s to 1900. Seems to have been a Draper's business if I am reading the free search results correctly. Mostly adverts, but one is a copy letter that was received from the front, (2nd Boer War), from son Bert Slatter in 1900 (March 9, 1900 - Western Daily Press - Bristol).
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I will definitely try to find those articles. Thanks for letting me know, scotmum.
Peggy
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Re the 1877 marriage I didn't realise there was more info "over the page" :-[
So we have fathers names!
John Lennox deceased farmer
James Slatter deceased butcher
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Births registered
Albert Edward Slatter - Dec 1878
Joseph Lennox Slatter - Sep 1880
Margaret Slatter - Sep 1881
Joseph Frederick Slatter - Dec 1883
Samuel James Slatter - Dec 1884
Deaths registered
Margaret Lennox Slatter - Mar 1882
Joseph Lennox Slatter - Jun 1881
Samuel James Slatter - Dec 1884
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Mary Slatter death in Bristol Dec 1923 age 75.
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That fits too! When Joseph died Apr 15, 1922, Mary was still alive. His will was probated June 13, 1922 and I have ordered the will for one pound fifty.
Peggy
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Thanks for the info on the children. I thought I had found Albert's emigration to Manitoba in 1907 but not positive now. There is more than one Albert E. Slatter. Perhaps Joseph's will will clarify.
Peggy
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Regarding the marriage of Mary and Joseph, I believe Joseph's parents were James Slatter and Mary Ann Millard. Guess that's where he got his middle name.
Peggy
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Yes marriage 1834 Tetbury Glos.
One Albert E Slatter is born 27 Sep 1878 death 5 Sep 1945 Mount Hope Cemetery San Diego
Baptism for your Albert 8 Dec 1878 so possible. Exact birth date not on the baptism unfortunately.
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For what it's worth a family tree has your Albert with that birth and death date with a marriage in California 17 Aug 1918 to Ruby L Sloan.
Correct parents for Albert plus quite a lot of information including US census 1920 San Francisco which has info
father born England
mother born Ireland
which is correct
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Sounds like it's the correct Albert. I tried to find Albert on the 1940 census on familysearch but they are having trouble with US censuses at the moment so was unable to do it. I will try again later. Looking for children.
I think it is the correct Albert.
Peggy
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Another item to look at is in the January 25, 1888 - Belfast News-Letter. It concerns a Samuel Lennox, of Aughrim, son of a Margaret Lennox and mentions him as a travelling draper, presently living in Bristol. The item is a bit 'sensitive', so only check it if you are happy to do so.
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Ok, fitting with above re Samuel and knowing Mary married in Bristol in 1877, there are three Lennox family members, Samuel, Mary and Elizabeth, all born Ireland, living in household of and noted as cousin & lodger of, a Robert Stewart and his sister, Mary Ann Stewart, both of Ireland. Address, St Paul Street. Year 1871.
By 1891 Samuel, a draper, is married and still in St Paul Street, with his wife and children. Transcript says birthplace for Samuel was IRELAND ANGLIUM, so likely should be Aughrim.
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I really must look into those Bristol Lennoxes, especially Samuel. Seems quite a connection to drapers. Good clue regarding a Robert Stewart although I don’t have him on the tree as yet. What year was that census?
Thank you
Peggy
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Oops, forgot to say, it was 1871...I've added it to my post now.
A second Stewart sister, Ellen, joins the household in 1881, by which time the Lennox siblings are gone. Robert Stewart and siblings are noted to be Tailors, all single.
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Thank you Scotmum. I am following up on the Stewarts.
Peggy
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On theme of Drapers, there is an entry on PRONI:
. Probate of the Will of William George Lennox late of Aughrim County Londonderry Farmer who died 2 October 1916 granted at Londonderry to Andrew Lennox, Draper
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Thanks again, scotmum. I do have William George Lennox on the tree and he did have a son Andrew. Andrew's occupation escaped me before.
Peggy
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Scotmum,
I did find the article in 1888 regarding Samuel Lennox, mother Margaret. Must be the same family with parents John Lennox and Margaret Marshall. John had died before Mary's marriage in 1877 and I think it was in 1864. However, when I go to Groni, and put in John Lennox's name and the year 1864-1865, it says there are too many records and to change my criteria to lessen the result. Surely, there can't be that many John Lennoxes who died in 1864 in registration district Magherafelt. According to irishgenealogy, John was 59 which fits perfectly with my information that he was born abt 1805.
Anyway, when I was looking for Andrew Johnston in 1911, he seemed to be separated from Rachel nee Lennox, Mary's sister, and he was living with a James Chesney! All in the family as they say.
Peggy
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I think there is a problem with GRONI website tonight. I had same issue with other searches earlier.
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For what it's worth a family tree has your Albert with that birth and death date with a marriage in California 17 Aug 1918 to Ruby L Sloan.
Correct parents for Albert plus quite a lot of information including US census 1920 San Francisco which has info
father born England
mother born Ireland
which is correct
San Diego Union
San Diego, California
September 6, 1945
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Fantastic. Thank you for this obituary. I didn’t think they had children and it appears that is true.
Peggy
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FIND A GRAVE
Albert E Slater -
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114059509/albert-e-slatter
Ruby L nee Sloane/Slater 1886 - 1959
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114059509/albert-e-slatter
Sandra
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California Death Index - Ruby L Slatter - Ruby L Sloane
Birth Date 31 Aug 1886 California - Death Date 8 Sep 1959 San Diego
Mother's Maiden Name Newton - Father's Surname Sloane.
Ruby L Sloan -Marriage 17 Aug 1918 Santa Rosa, California.
Spouse Albert E Slatter
Sandra
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Thanks so very much, Sandra. It much appreciated.
Peggy
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For what it's worth a family tree has your Albert with that birth and death date with a marriage in California 17 Aug 1918 to Ruby L Sloan.
San Diego Union
San Diego, California
September 6, 1945
Ruby L (Sloane) Slatter
San Diego Union
San Diego, California
Thursday, Sep 10, 1959
pg: 43
Obit: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qdp/
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This is fantastic. Thank you so much for sending. She must not have had children as none are mentioned.
Peggy
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Mary Stewart nee Marshall and Margaret Lennox nee Marshall have now been established as sisters through the 1871 census of Bristol when Mary's son Robert is living with Margaret's son Samuel and they are cousins. I wonder if Margaret Lennox nee Marshall has an obit - she died Sept 13, 1896 in Aughrim with her daughter Mary Slatter present. That would be terrific to get her obit. Or the obit of Mary and Margaret's brother John Lennox who died Jan 16, 1880 in Gortagilly, Co. Derry. All of these children had sons named Francis which seems to confirm my theory that Francis was the father of all three. John's wife was Mary Ann although I don't have a surname for her. Marriage would be after 1831 but before 1836 when his son Francis was born. John's birth would be about 1808 in Derrygarve and his birth should have his mother's name. Thanks for any help.
Peggy