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Title: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: Greygirl on Saturday 14 March 20 16:40 GMT (UK)
Can anyone advise me if the Landesarchiv NRW has copies of the Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and for Dortmund 1900-1905 inclusive? I am interested in members of the Faust family in both these cities  and can't find the books for any of these years on line.
Thanks
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: davecapps on Sunday 15 March 20 12:21 GMT (UK)
The only thing i could find is this Meta search site

http://meta.genealogy.net/

There are a few hits for Faust, Gelsenkirchen or Dortmund
(not in the period you are looking for)

Dave
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: davecapps on Sunday 15 March 20 12:28 GMT (UK)
you could try mailing the Genealogy Research Group – Roland zu Dortmund

https://roland-zu-dortmund.weebly.com/kontakt.html

It´s worth a try
Dave
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: Greygirl on Sunday 15 March 20 12:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks Dave. I've emailed a request to Roland zu Dortmund and will wait to hear what they say.
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: davecapps on Sunday 15 March 20 14:02 GMT (UK)
This is the tradesmans Adressbuch Dortmund 1900
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Dortmund/Adressbuch_1900

Adressbuch Dortmund 1900
https://sammlungen.ulb.uni-muenster.de/hd/periodical/pageview/2798253


The historical address books of Dortmund are in the library of the Ruhr area in Bochum
http://www.isb.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/bdr/index.html.en

The adress bücher from Gelsenkirchen are in the library of the Gelsenkirchen Institute for City History (= Stadtarchiv Gelsenkirchen).
https://stadtbibliothek.gelsenkirchen.de/Homepage/Kontakt/default.asp?highmain=7&highsub=0&highsubsub=0


Adressbuch Gelsenkirchen 1896
5 Faust´s on page 109 (Nr 103 in the dropdown list)
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Gelsenkirchen/Adressbuch_1896

Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: davecapps on Sunday 15 March 20 16:10 GMT (UK)
https://www.gelsenkirchener-geschichten.de/wiki/Adressbuch#F.C3.BCr_Gelsenkirchen_sind_Adressb.C3.BCcher_online_verf.C3.BCgbar_.28Stand_Januar_2018.29:
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: Greygirl on Saturday 28 March 20 17:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks again!
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 29 March 20 11:41 BST (UK)
I worked in Germany for 3 years 1979-1981 - I passed through Gelsenkirchen - I don't want to dampen your hopes - but it was flattened in WW2 - Probably one of the most bombed cities in Germany - records prior to 1944 may have been destroyed - do you have a particular name - dob - pob and we can see if someone has a familytree for them - you may be lucky - Kirchen is Deutch for church  :)
1900 residence - for some reason NO ages given and NO places of birth - just resident in Dortmund - the only one I could find - very strange

Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
........................................................
Albert Faust
Householder
Male
...............................
Anna Faust
Wife
Female
............
Almine Faust
Daughter
Female
.................
Anna Faust
Daughter
Female
......................that is the strangest info - for some reason age and pob witheld ??
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: Greygirl on Sunday 29 March 20 14:39 BST (UK)
Thanks Gartonite. Yes, Gelsenkirchen and the Ruhrgebiet was well and truly flattened. My late mother was sent away as a refugee with her school to Bavaria during the war.

Where did you find this 1900 residence information?
Following a lead from davecapps (thanks again) the Dortmund Adreßbuch 1900 lists a completely different set of Fausts

For years I have been trying to find out what happened to my great grandfather Johann(es) Faust b1869 in Gelsenkirchen who may have been murdered in about 1904, possibly during a trip to the USA, though he didn't emigrate there permanently. According to my Grandfather's marriage record his deceased father lived most recently in Dortmund but despite trawling through endless death registrations in Dortmund and Gelsenkirchen around 1904 I have been unable to find anything. Every now and then I try a different angle.
This time I'm trying to find evidence of where Johann, his wife Wilhelmine and their children might have been living between 1900 and 1905 which might indicate when and where Johann disappears from the records so I can at least narrow the date and place down in what was a heavily populated area.   
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: garstonite on Monday 30 March 20 06:15 BST (UK)
Johannes Faust 1869 - who did he marry please ??
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: Greygirl on Monday 30 March 20 11:03 BST (UK)
He married Wilhelmine Kaprolat (*1869) in September 1889 in Gelsenkirchen. In 1919 she was living in Heinrichstraße in Dortmund.
Their children were
Johann Georg Friedrich *1889 Gelsenkirchen
Karl Matthias *1891 Gelsenkirchen
Wilhelm Heinrich *1899 Gelsenkirchen
Elisabeth *?
Hanna *?
Mimi *?
Friedrich *?
Occupation: Kellner (previously Milchhändler)
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: garstonite on Monday 30 March 20 11:11 BST (UK)
could this be her - 2nd one down - Dortmund

https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?go=1&nom=Kaprolat+&prenom=wilhelmine&prenom_operateur=or&with_variantes_nom=&with_variantes_nom_conjoint=&with_variantes_prenom=&with_variantes_prenom_conjoint=&size=10
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: Greygirl on Monday 30 March 20 11:20 BST (UK)
No, it isn't. I was led astray a couple of years ago by Wilhelmine Emma Olga Kaprolat who is probably related to my Wilhelmine Kaprolat (who doesn't seem to have any other Christian names) but was born in Dortmund whereas my Wilhelmine was definitely born in Insterburg in Ostpreußen.
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: garstonite on Monday 30 March 20 11:26 BST (UK)
OK ...worth a shot though - just as well you had covered her or you could have wasted a few hours ...lol
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: davecapps on Monday 30 March 20 11:42 BST (UK)
are you connected to the Lucy Faust tree on Ancestry?
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund
Post by: Greygirl on Monday 30 March 20 12:30 BST (UK)
Yes, 'fraid so. :)
Title: Re: Adreßbücher for Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund *COMPLETED*
Post by: Greygirl on Monday 22 March 21 12:43 GMT (UK)
Found what I was looking for! Thanks everyone