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Title: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: migalsal on Monday 16 March 20 16:55 GMT (UK)
Who are William Dunn's parents? I have a Wm. Dunn in 1851 with Ann as head brothers Geo. and Robt and mother Jane Webster. Is he my William. In 1881 William and Dinah are in N. Frodingham with their children and mother at bottom named Fanny Forge. Is Fanny Forge the same Ann Webster from 1851? She does not seem to be the mother in law to William so she must be his mother. Another problem is that there is another William named William Donkin Dunn b. same time. Are they the same person? any help is most appreciated. I have spent a lot of time on familysearch.org trying to puzzle this out.
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 16 March 20 17:06 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat

Do you have a copy of the 1864 marriage cert showing his fathers name?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJZV-XPD
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 16 March 20 17:54 GMT (UK)
Finally found the marriage entry - FindMyPast - 26 March 1864 - Brandsburton

No father named for William Dunn - aged 23 of Eston in Cleveland, occupation Miner

Dinah is aged 20 and her father is Robert, a Labourer

Thomas Watson was a witness.
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 16 March 20 21:33 GMT (UK)
It would appear William was illegitimate.  www.freebmd.org.uk

William Dunn Dec qtr 1840 Hull 22 371 - GRO online shows no mothers maiden name

William Donkin Dunn was b Dec qtr 1841 and his mothers maiden name was Fletcher

William Donking (g on end) Dunn married 1864 in Marylebone but banns entry show middle name as Duncan
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: Dundee on Monday 16 March 20 21:44 GMT (UK)
Is Fanny Forge the same Ann Webster from 1851?

Their ages and birthplaces do not match.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 16 March 20 21:52 GMT (UK)
You have the wrong 1851 entry.  In 1851 your William Dunn is aged 10 living in Brandesburton with his uncle and aunt William & Martha Marshall
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: Dundee on Monday 16 March 20 22:00 GMT (UK)
A possible marriage for Fanny after William's birth:

Name:    Frances DUNN
Marriage Date:    14 Jan 1846
Marriage Place:    Holy Trinity Church, Hull, York, England
Father:    William DUNN
Spouse:    Robert FORGE

Debra  :)
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 16 March 20 22:00 GMT (UK)
In 1881 Fanny Forge is shown as his mother aged 73 b Seaton

Freebmd has this marriage

Frances Dunn to Robert Forge March qtr 1846 Hull 22 263

(What timing Dundee - both at same time)   ;D
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: Dundee on Monday 16 March 20 22:04 GMT (UK)
Great minds think alike  ;D

Martha DUNN married William MARSHALL in 1837 at Brandesburton.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 16 March 20 22:06 GMT (UK)
The 1851 has Robert Forge aged 70 and Fanny as 45 so quite a big age difference
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 16 March 20 22:11 GMT (UK)
1861 has Robert Forge aged 73 and Frances 53

In 1871 she is transcribed as Francis - widow - and is housekeeper to William Lowson widower aged 77

Robert Forge died Dec qtr 1861 Beverley
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: Dundee on Monday 16 March 20 22:13 GMT (UK)
Fanny and young William are in the Hull workhouse in 1841.

Piece   1231;  Book 7; Folio 34; Page number  6

Debra  :)
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: migalsal on Wednesday 18 March 20 15:27 GMT (UK)
Thank you everyone for this help.  Now I will look for Fanny Dunn's parents. So William is not the son of Ann in 1851 with her mother Jane Webster. He lives with his older sister Mrs. Marshall in 1851.He is not the same person as William Donkin (Duncan)Dunn.  Is a workhouse like the poorhouse for the destitute?
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 18 March 20 15:36 GMT (UK)
Image for the 1846 marriage is available on FindMyPast:

14 January 1846

Robert Forge (x), full age, widower, of Leven, Farmer.  Father:  John (late), Labourer
Frances Dunn (x), full age, spinster, of Hull.  Father:  William, Labourer

ADDED:  The marriage was by licence, but I can't readily see that the Bond and/or Allegation have survived.

Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 18 March 20 19:00 GMT (UK)
There is a Thomas Dunn aged 70 and Jane Dunn 71 both in the Workhouse on the same reference as given above
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: migalsal on Friday 20 March 20 22:09 GMT (UK)
If William's mother was Frances Dunn and her sister was Martha and their father might be another William, where could I look for this father Wm. Dunn? I can't seem to find their father or mother.
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: migalsal on Saturday 21 March 20 15:07 GMT (UK)
If William's mother was Frances Dunn and her sister was Martha and their father might be another William, where could I look for this father Wm. Dunn? I can't seem to find their father or mother.
Title: Re: William Dunn b. 1841 Hull m. Dinah Watson 1864 Brandesburton
Post by: migalsal on Friday 05 March 21 16:54 GMT (UK)
I have received some research that says William Dunn's parents were Jonathan Dunn 1804 and Mary Wotty m. 1832 Sculcoates. His grandfather then would be John Dunn Howden , ggrandfather Geo.  gggrandfather John Dunn 1749 Howden. Does this show up as probable in any other resources? Or is this research faulty?