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Found a newspaper article which appears to be an announcement that land is going to be sold to the highest and fairest bidder. 2 dates are given 20 January 1846 and 07 November 1847. The Plaintiff is James Hudson Bond. The defendants are Brabazon Disney Sheils, Rebecca Sheils Eccelston, Brabazon's Uncles's wife and James Farrell(not sure his connection). James Hudson Bond is the son-in-law to Brabazon. My assumption and questions is would James be trying to stop the sale of the land to protect his wife's inheritance when Brabazon dies in 1855? Can't find a marriage settlement for James Hudson Bond and Elizabeth Anne Sheils, so am I sort of on the right path or could there be another explanation why this land is being sold in 1846?
Tried to send the article as an attachment, but wouldn't go through.
Thanks in advance,
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https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=497493.0 ??
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Baptism, Marriage and Burial results for Bond
Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. GEORGE
LINK http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p7j/
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Found a newspaper article which appears to be an announcement that land is going to be sold to the highest and fairest bidder. 2 dates are given 20 January 1846 and 07 November 1847. The Plaintiff is James Hudson Bond. The defendants are Brabazon Disney Sheils, Rebecca Sheils Eccelston, Brabazon's Uncles's wife and James Farrell(not sure his connection). James Hudson Bond is the son-in-law to Brabazon. My assumption and questions is would James be trying to stop the sale of the land to protect his wife's inheritance when Brabazon dies in 1855? Can't find a marriage settlement for James Hudson Bond and Elizabeth Anne Sheils, so am I sort of on the right path or could there be another explanation why this land is being sold in 1846?
Tried to send the article as an attachment, but wouldn't go through.
Thanks in advance,
Wasn't Bond mentioned in stuff I posted on other thread??
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Hi Hallmark,
Yes I know and have verified the connection of James Hudson Bond to Brabazon Disney Sheils. I just don't understand why James is the plaintiff against his Father-in-law Brabazon Disney Sheils. My guess was to retain some sort of inheritance for his wife Elizabeth (Brabazon's daughter) or could there have been another reason why the land was being sold?
PS Hope you and your family are well and staying protected from the virus!!
Cheers.
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All well and doing out best to stay safe, thanks! Hope yours are too.
There are far too many reasons why he was trying to stop them selling, or trying to get his share etc etc, much of which could be clauses in previous Agreements/ Marriage Settlement/ Inheritances/Contracts.
There might even be a clause that they couldn't sell... Did the sale take place? Did he stop it??
Did he find out that the others had 2 or 3 "sitters" to make low bids and fix low sale price?? etc
What was in Marriage Agreement of James Hudson Bond to Elizabeth??
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I can’t t find a marriage settlement for James Hodson Bond and Elizabeth Sheils. In 1843-1844 in the Drogheda Journal, Brabazon by himself is trying to sell his Newtown Estate and his land (702 acres) in Newtowndarver. The article also appears in English papers as well. Don’t know where to look to see if his land and home sold but in 1855 in Blackrock, is when Brabazon dies and I only found that by luck in a Belfast newspaper, just a small one line. Brabazon had 3 daughters and one son so very curious why he was trying to sell his home and lands. James Hodson Bond died in 1875 and was living in Dublin.
Is there somewhere I can make inquiries to see if that sale did in fact happen?
Thanks again for any more suggestions👍🇨🇦
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I can see him introducing himself in Court!
"My name is Bond, James Bond"... ;D
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I have a suspicion of something....that was posted on https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=497493.0
and also the Marriage Cert posted!!
A different JOHN HODSON BOND Esq....
grrrr ;D
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The link you posted is my Great Grandmother’s people. I also have the marriage record for James Hodson Bond and Elizabeth Sheils. James’s Father was Rev. James Hodson Bond from Longford. Of course there is another James Hodson or Hudson Bond who came from Roscommon and he was in the military but not my ancestors.
I did find something interesting on Griffiths valuation. James Hodson Bond was living in a house in Dundalk on Wellington Place and a few house down Rebecca Sheils Eccleston was also living in a house. She was Brabazon’s Uncle’s wife. At that time she was widowed as her husband died in 1840(George Sheils Eccleston).
Still digging around. Thanks again Hallmark!!
Take care 👍🇨🇦
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Wow...the Longford ones are yours??
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Yes but haven’t even started going down that road!! First it’s hard to know where to look for certain information, then once I get it, trying to understand what I have along with lack of knowledge such as history, customs, laws etc. I maybe slow but very determined to keeping looking. When I saw the overlap of James Hodson Bond with Brabazon Disney Sheils and Rebecca Sheils Eccleston, I knew I’m on the correct path! Then of course I find the other James H. Bond from Roscommon and of course there’s two of them!! So frustrating.
Everything you’re given me has been a great source and is very appreciated. I need to get to Ireland but I don’t think it will be this year.
Cheers
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You don't need to.... ;D
Pity I didn't know this last week, I think Libraries are shut due to virus but I will try to contact someone related who has their pedigree done.
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Photo of g/stone...
(c) Copywrite is mine
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(c) Copywrite is mine
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Location: CORBOY (PRESB) CHURCHYARD, Co LONGFORD
Source: JIMMY LENNON
Here lie the remains of Thos. Bond of Newtownbond in the County of Longford Esqr. who died Jan 27th 1811, aged 70 years. Also of Anne Bond otherwise Hodson his wife who died the 2nd day
of Feby. 1780, aged 30 years. Also of Jane Bond eldest daughter of the Revd. James Bond of Newtown Bond aforesaid. She died the 12th day of Feby. 1812 in the 17th year of her age.
Also of Elizabeth Bond otherwise Montford wife of William Bond Esq. son to the above named Thos. Bond who died Feby. the 8th 1813 agd. 38 yrs Also the body of James Hodson Bond Esqre. MD, who departed this life the 23rd day of July 1833 aged 26 years.
Underneath lieth the body of the Revd. James Bond of Licarrow in the County of Roscommon, formerly of Newtown Bond in the County of Longford Clerk who died May 8 1821aged 53 years
Also three of his daughters
Jane who died Febry. 1811 aged 17 years
Anne who died May 18th 1816 aged 19 yrs.
Eliza who died May 25th 1819 aged 18 yrs.
To the Memory of Lorengo Hely Hutchinson Bond Esquire only remaining son & child of the late Very
Reverend James Forward Bond Dean of Ross in the County of Cork and Christiana Margaretta
Hely Hutchinson. God in his mercy saw fit to take him in the midst of youth & bloom. He died from
the effects of having been thrown from his tax cart
It can be truly said in the midst of life we are in death. Although he now sleeps here until the
resurrection morn he yet speaketh & says
"Tis not through age that here I lie
Friends prepare yourselves to die
Repent in time, make no delay
I in my youth was called away."
This tomb is erected by his disconsolate mother as the last tribute of love and affection to the memory of her dear departed child Died July 17th 1849, aged 22 years.
Church built by Bond
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/longford/photos/tombstones/longford-corboy-presb/target0.html
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Wow, oh my gosh, amazing!!!!!!!!!!
Do you understand my excitement Hallmark!!!!!! Thank you so much. I think I need a break from Brabazon Disney Sheils, the Eccleston's etc. so this is where I will direct my attention for awhile.
I did re-read or try to read a land, estate record you sent me before involving Rebecca Sheils Eccleston, and Brabazon and sure enough I was able to see James Hudson Bond, so these people are all connected. I just can't read the writing on the document, let alone understand what is being proposed but when I get over to Ireland, I will try and find somebody maybe in a library that can read the documents for me.
Have a great week Hallmark and it is 6pm here in Canada and I am going to raise a toast to you for being so kind, helpful and a great advisor.
Cheers and remember to wash your hands and stay safe.
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I was wondering about Hodson name in Louth but didn't to complicate things....
they lived where the Hotel is now.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p7v/
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P,M. me your email address if you want and I can pass it on to the person/relative who did the pedigree
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I just can't read the writing on the document, let alone understand what is being proposed but when I get over to Ireland, I will try and find somebody maybe in a library that can read the documents for me.
It is explained better here.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u8AgUXPpLM
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There is a photo of the Bond's Irish cottage in Longford here....
http://lordbelmontinnorthernireland.blogspot.com/2014/04/farragh-house.html
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I did re-read or try to read a land, estate record you sent me before involving Rebecca Sheils Eccleston, and Brabazon and sure enough I was able to see James Hudson Bond, so these people are all connected. I just can't read the writing on the document, let alone understand what is being proposed but when I get over to Ireland, I will try and find somebody maybe in a library that can read the documents for me.
I was just reading this post as a browse as the 'Decrees in Chancery' caught my eye.
Just to say that there is a specific board here on Rootschat (if you've haven't seen it), where Rootschatters can transcribe old documents and handwriting.
If you'd like to post, say, the first part, I'm sure somebody would be able to help you.............. many people with time on their hands!
It's always a good idea to try and not post the whole thing, but break it down into smaller chunks.
You're limited to 500 kbs for an image, so try and get it as near to that as possible as that helps when enlarging it to read it.
Handwriting Deciphering board here:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/handwriting-deciphering-recognition/
Good luck and stay well! :)
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I posted a Link to it and a pile of others and would have no problem explaining it if I knew which thread it was on and which one was being referred to.
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It might be on this thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=818183.0
or this thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=823867.0
or this thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=826403.0
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Eva Helena Bond born Louth circa 1853
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Skahanagh/Ballinree/1128813/
died 1906 age 53
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05558/4559702.pdf
Married Richard Croker Heard 1891
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10679/5892134.pdf
Donald Graham born Barnett Villa's, Kilmainham 1883
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02737/2006367.pdf
married Malcom Graham 1878
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11110/8066442.pdf
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Thank you everyone for the continued help and support and tips. Have found a few new bits of information I have to follow up on. Also will forward my 18th century document in small sections and see if I can get another set of eyes to make out the writing!!!
Hope everyone takes good care during this difficult time. You are all so lovely and kind and I really appreciate the help always.
Cheers.
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Pedigrees and notes on the families of Hodson of Hodson's Bay, Co. Roscommon, Mills, Magan of Emoe, Wilson of Piersfield, Co. Westmeath, Dunne, Smith of Tuitestown, Hatfield, Gray, West and Bond 20th c.
Location
Dublin: Royal Irish Academy, Upton Papers, No. 21
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Pedigree of Bond of Glenlough and Ballyclogher in Co. Derry, of Newton Bond and Lecarrow, Co. Roscommon and of Coolember and Bondsfort and Cartroncard and Farragh all in Co. Longford 1650 -- 1875.
National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.114, pp.192-5 and 200-3
email jharte2'at'nli.ie for price
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Pedigree of Bond, Barts., of Newtown and Coolamber in Co. Longford, with copy of Patent of Baronetcy c.1720 1794.
National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.113, pp.46-53
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Copy of confirmation of Arms to James Bond of Coolamber, Co. Longford Jan. 17, 1794.
National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.103, p.135
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Pedigree and detailed abstracts of wills of
Hodson of Hadrew in Buckinghamshire
and Skea in Co. Cavan,
of Tuitstown in Co. Westmeath,
of Old Court and of Coolkenna, Co. Wicklow,
of Athlone and Ballinacura, Co. Westmeath,
of Hodson's Bay otherwise Burnes in Co. Roscommon
and
of City of Dublin, 1688 -- 1759.
National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.141, pp.18-22
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Account of origins, lease book, of the Bond estate in Cos. Leitrim, Longford, Meath, Roscommon, Westmeath, c. 1778-1855, also some correspondence, maps and veterinary recipes.
Trinity College Library, Mss. 4255-56 (Q.9.12.-13)
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Recovery in respect of lands at Dunmahon, Killeagh, Curraghmore and elsewhere in Co. Cork, in which Richard Burke is demandant, Rowland Delaghoyde and William Fennesey tenants and John Hodder vouchee 28 Nov., 1746.
Format: Manuscript
Subjects:
Bond, family of
Burke, Richard
Delahoyde, Rowland
Fennesy, William
Hodder, John
Cork County > Estates
National Library of Ireland, D.27,270
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'Family Patchwork' by Mrs. Georgiana McGeogh Bond; a genealogical work on the families of Bond, Gosselin, Kingstone, Little, mainly in Co. Longford; with references to social life and conditions in eighteenth and nineteenth centuries; c.1960.
National Library of Ireland, Ms. 18,450
and
Legal and estate papers of the McCaough and Bond families, Co. Armagh, 1804-1907; Irish Land Commission papers relating to the Shelton Estate, Co. Armagh, 1907.
Belfast Public Record Office, D.3012
which is the ones mentioned (as far as I remember) in one of the contracts posted to my knowledge
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The Cork Bonds..
Will abstracts of Aldworth, Bond and St. Leger presented to Society of Genealogists.
The Genealogists' magazine: official organ of the Society of Genealogists , Vol. 9, No. 5, September, 1941
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As they say on “Who Do You Think You Are”, I need to get to Ireland and especially Dublin !!
Have made note of all this information and will get busy.👍🍺🇨🇦
Cheers and thanks.
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As you see...they are far to big to try to research with scraps online! They are going to interweave with some many "Families of Pedigrees".
I am not sure who is working in NLI at moment, if anyone... it is possible some staff are inside.
You could try email asking about cost of one or two of them if you wanted. The Londonderry line going to Longford could be very interesting!! Up to you!
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Just found a marriage record for Charlotte Anne Quinn, Willoughby de Montfort, Shield(shells) her Mother's maiden name, Metcalf, otherwise known as BOND. She was widowed and married in 1894 to a Albert Edward Bromily in Dublin. Charlotte was James Hodson Bond's youngest daughter. The name Willoughby de Montfort is interesting and that might help me find the BOND lineage.
Will have to wait to NLI and NAI open again for help as I'm limited on this side but another adventure hopefully I can pursue very soon.
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You find plenty of scraps online...
Did you email NLI?
Was looking at a Pedigree yesterday and "Londonderry Bond's" wife was on it....then generation after generation some are changing Surnames etc to inherit. McCaough and Bond's shield gets quartered. Brabazons are marrying Disneys, Disneys are marrying Brabazons, Widow's of Disneys are marrying widowers of Brabazons.
Bond, of Newtown and Coolamber in Co. Longford are Barons and Baronets... a few get married in England
Underneath lieth the body of Catherine Bond daughtr. of the Revd. James Bond being mortal
she pitied distressed mortals and relieved them. Being a Christian she loved the virtuous
and was good. Reader be thou such. She died the 16th day of October A.D. 1781 and in
the 47th year of her age.
Here lye the remains of Lettitia youngest daughter of the Revd. James Bond late of
Newtownbond, deceased and relict of Simon Little of Lisnana Esqr. by whom she had
issue two sons surviving 13th July 1766, aged 37.
Sacred to the memory of Elizabeth eldest daughter of the late Alexander Perry of
Edgeworthstown Esqr. and wife to William Bond of Bondsfort Esqr.
by whom she had eleven children. She dyed 11th May 1793 in the 36th year of her age
leaving four sons and three daughters
Underneath lieth the body of William Bond Esqr. of Edgeworthstown who died 31st March 1811
aged 61 years fourth son of Revd. James Bond of Newtown Bond James Wensley Bond of
Cartroncard Esq. eldest son of William Bond Esqr. of Edgeworthstown born the 30th
day of December 1781 died February the 8th 1813
In Loving Memory of Alexander Perry Bond of Ardglass only son of William Perry Bond
who died 17th May 1900 aged 31 years.
"I am the resurrection and the life"
In Loving Memory of William Perry Bond of Ardglass who died 27th May 1881 aged 37 years and of his wife Elizabeth Jane who died 17th February 1912 also their daughter Sidney May who died 12th April 1903
"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil for thou
art with me."
In Memory of Major Alexander Perry Bond died 7th August 1851 aged 68 years of Ardglass, Co. Westmeath and of his wife Rosetta died 15th December 1846 aged 33 years also his four daughters
Eliza, Letitia, Louisa, Kate
10th Sept. 1762 Here Lieth the body of Revd. James Bond of Newtown Bond 19 years Minister of the Congregation of this place, aged 70 years.
Likewise 12th Augt. 17[2]2 of Catherine his wife aged 69. Four sons & four daughters Likewise 10th July 1780 of Jane their second daughter aged 32 Likewise 10th Augt. 1780 of
Anne wife of their eldest son Thomas and daughter of Daniel Hodson of St. Johns in the County of Roscommon, aged ( )
Here sleepeth waiting the resurrection of the just the body of Oliver Bond of Shantum. He depart'd this life the 10 day of July 1776 agd. 78 yrs. In memory of whom this tomb was erected by his
children.
Here lie the remains of Thos. Bond of Newtownbond in the County of Longford Esqr. who died Jan 27th 1811, aged 70 years. Also of Anne Bond otherwise Hodson his wife who died the 2nd day of Feby. 1780, aged 30 years. Also of Jane Bond eldest daughter of the Revd. James Bond of Newtown Bond aforesaid. She died the 12th day of Feby. 1812 in the 17th year of her age.
Also of Elizabeth Bond otherwise Montford wife of William Bond Esq.son to the above named Thos. Bond who died Feby. the 8th 1813 agd. 38 yrs Also the body of James Hodson Bond Esqre. MD, who departed this life the 23rd day of July 1833 aged 26 years.
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Lorengo Hely Hutchinson Bond Esquire only remaining son & child of the late Very
Reverend James Forward Bond Dean of Ross in the County of Cork and Christiana Margaretta
Hely Hutchinson. God in his mercy saw fit to take him in the midst of youth & bloom. He died from the effects of having been thrown from his tax cart
It can be truly said in the midst of life we are in death. Although he now sleeps here until the
resurrection morn he yet speaketh & says "Tis not through age that here I lie Friends prepare yourselves to die Repent in time, make no delay I in my youth was called away."
This tomb is erected by his disconsolate mother as the last tribute of love and affection to
the memory of her dear departed child Died July 17th 1849, aged 22 years.
Christopher Hutchinson married Anne Bond dau of Sir James Bond, ..his brother Lorenzo H married Ms Blake and their dau Christiana Margaretta Hely Hutchinson married Reverend James Forward Bond Dean of Ross
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Plus you gave Perrys marrying Littles as well as Bonds but they seems to e mainly cousins....
Sooner you than me trying to do them with scraps! ;D
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That should have been
Plus you have Perrys marrying Littles
as I don't have a modify button I can't rectify typo
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Emailed NLI but have not heard back just yet. Will advise if I find something out.
Thank you and have a good week👍🍺🇨🇦
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So you have the Bonds being boycotted by the Irish.....
...and you have
THE Oliver Bond, "Oliver Bond who came to Dublin in 1782 was the son of a minister of 'Fahan Presbyterian Church'. Oliver died in prison in 1798 and was said to be in his 39th year which means he was born circa 1759."
Bond, Oliver, a prominent United-Irishman, was born in Ulster about 1762. He commenced business as a wholesale woollen draper in Pill-lane, Dublin, and in in 1786 removed to the house now 9 Lower Bridge-street. Five years afterwards he married the daughter of Henry Jackson, ironfounder, a leading member of the United-Irishmen. He soon rose to be one of the most opulent and respectable merchants in Dublin. He entered enthusiastically into Irish politics. On 1st March 1793, he, together with the Hon. Simon Butler, was committed to Newgate, and fined £500, for reflections on the House of Lords. On their liberation in August they were presented with congratulatory addresses. In 1797 we find him exceedingly active in administering the oath, and enrolling and arming men.
https://www.fahanchurch.org/unitedirishmanoliverbond.htm
which is why the Pedigree of Bond of Glenlough and Ballyclogher in Co. Derry, of Newton Bond and Lecarrow, Co. Roscommon and of Coolember and Bondsfort and Cartroncard and Farragh all in Co. Longford 1650 -- 1875. could be very very interesting!
I know they link across...but I think it is via Jacksons to your Brabazons or Disney.
From memory he married Anne the daughter of Henry Jackson of Londonderry.
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James' children born Bombay.
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3rd son Wm born Kent. (Homeplace of the Bonds??)
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3rd son Wm born Kent. (Homeplace of the Bonds??)
Grrr... Yorkshire!
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An Indenture between Earl of Anglesey, the party of the first party and John Bond of Drumshallon, the party of the second party! ;D
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-39JP-H?i=557&cat=185720
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339047... Bond/Tyrrell Marriage
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-Q9FK-S?i=45&cat=185720