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General => The Stay Safe Board => Topic started by: Maiden Stone on Saturday 21 March 20 20:12 GMT (UK)
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Useful stuff here.
Ready Scotland
"Preparing for and dealing with emergencies"
"Helping in your community"
"Community resilience groups"
https://www.readyscotland.org/coronavirus/helping-in-your-community
Also links to mental health charity Mind + other links.
There should be similar sites for your area.
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Very useful thank you. There is a lot of help to stop the vulnerable, hopefully we'll hear of more projects just like this.
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I noticed on the old post that there was people taking to the highlands in their caravans. We are caravanners and was really looking forward to the start of the season, but, although campsites are still operating, we have been advised that there will be no sanitary blocks open ??? Surely they should close them altogether as these measures don't go far enough. We won't be taking out the caravan until the crisis is over. People travelling around the country in their caravans and motor homes could spread the virus over a larger area....or are we being over cautious...I don't think so!
Carol
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Yep complete and utter dangerous stupidity.
I am quite angry this morning. When I woke up I discovered someone who is self isolating for 14 days due to having symptoms had a group of people over for drinks since they couldn't go out. Then my daughter told me that her schoolmates had been posting on whatsapp about being out partying last night and some of the local pubs were still open.
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Cumbria Police
Tourists urged to heed advice and stay home - 'Now is not the time for tourism'
Would-be tourists are being urged not to travel to the Lakes or other Cumbrian holiday destinations as the county urges people to follow Government advice aimed at limiting the spread of coronavirus.
Now that pubs, restaurants, cafes and non-essential shops and visitor attractions have been advised to close, the Lake District is no longer conducting business as usual.
Whilst it is encouraging that the Highways Agency have reported fewer vehicle journeys than normal, it is clear that we, along with other tourist areas such as Cornwall, Wales and Scotland, are continuing to experience an influx of travelling visitors.
The message comes from Assistant Chief Constable Andrew Slattery, the Chair of the Cumbria Local Resilience Forum - which is responsible for the multi-agency response to civil emergencies - and follows the Government steps taken yesterday to reduce the spread of coronavirus by closing businesses such as pubs, cafes and gyms.
He said: "Whilst we are looking at all measures to limit the spread of the COVID-19 coronavirus, I must urge people living outside the county not to visit. A national emergency shut-down of businesses and schools is not an excuse for a holiday.
"Cumbria County Council yesterday urged people to stay at home as far as possible to protect out NHS and save lives. I reiterate that advice and it is important that we all follow it.
“The health, social care and emergency services in Cumbria are resourced to serve the 500,000 resident population and will be stretched to breaking point by this crisis. Large numbers of visitors will only place an additional burden on these hard-pushed professionals.
"People are safest and their health and that of their families is best protected by staying at home and heeding advice on social distancing.
“These are unprecedented times and our first priority is the protection of life. People's lives must come first."
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Yep complete and utter dangerous stupidity.
I am quite angry this morning. When I woke up I discovered someone who is self isolating for 14 days due to having symptoms had a group of people over for drinks since they couldn't go out. Then my daughter told me that her schoolmates had been posting on whatsapp about being out partying last night and some of the local pubs were still open.
What is it about the word "isolating" that they don't understand?
I came on here to say that Chief Medical Officer for Scotland will be answering questions on "Broadcasting House" 9 a.m. Radio 4. I've switched radio on to listen to her. Recommended listening.
Scottish Govt. is to pass emergency legislation this week to close pubs.
Authorities on a Scottish island advised visitors at the start of last week to go home.
Scottish Govt. minister on news now saying don't go to the Highlands. "It's quite simple. Stay at home!"
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I listened to this interview last night:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0877mb2
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CMO for Scotland on "Broadcasting House" now giving her weekly briefing. Includes advice for:
Pregnant women. This will change as more is learned about this group. More risky after 28th week.
People who are still going to pubs (in Scotland). Stark; don't.
Old people + younger ones at increased risk. O.K. to go for a walk as long as they stay a safe distance away from other folk.
A smaller number of high risk people who have particular very serious health conditions will be sent letters from their G.P.s this week. Advice for this sub-group is to strictly isolate themselves for 12 weeks.
CMO answered questions. e.g. newspaper delivery. She'll probably be on "Broadcasting House" again next Sunday and perhaps for the forseeable future. Essential listening.
NHS and NHS Scotland websites are updated as new information is released.
"BH" today has other useful & interesting Covid-related items e.g. interview with a lone sailor about coping with isolation; interviews with business owners.
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I've just watched live streaming of Sunday Mass from my church. Some other churches are doing the same. 2 clergy + 2 visible members of the congregation physically present. Distribution of Holy Communion took about 2 minutes. No hymns for the congregation to sing. However, in place of the usual final hymn was an instrumental recording of "Be Still, for the Presence of the Lord", with words on screen. It's a comforting hymn in this time of anxiety.
As well as being Mothering Sunday, 4th Sunday in Lent is SCIAF Sunday for the Catholic Church in Scotland. SCIAF is Scottish Catholic International Aid Fund. Celebrant's closing remarks asked the watching congregation not to neglect those in dire need at home and abroad, especially those reliant on local food-banks.
The Church of Scotland in my neighbourhood is also streaming a live service today. The minister has issued an appeal for donations to the food-bank operated by local churches.
Food-banks and charities all over Britain are struggling to cope in the present situation. Some won't survive - victims of Covid-19. :(
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Cumbria Police
Tourists urged to heed advice and stay home - 'Now is not the time for tourism'
Would-be tourists are being urged not to travel to the Lakes or other Cumbrian holiday destinations as the county urges people to follow Government advice aimed at limiting the spread of coronavirus.
Now that pubs, restaurants, cafes and non-essential shops and visitor attractions have been advised to close, the Lake District is no longer conducting business as usual.
Whilst it is encouraging that the Highways Agency have reported fewer vehicle journeys than normal, it is clear that we, along with other tourist areas such as Cornwall, Wales and Scotland, are continuing to experience an influx of travelling visitors.
The message comes from Assistant Chief Constable Andrew Slattery, the Chair of the Cumbria Local Resilience Forum - which is responsible for the multi-agency response to civil emergencies - and follows the Government steps taken yesterday to reduce the spread of coronavirus by closing businesses such as pubs, cafes and gyms.
He said: "Whilst we are looking at all measures to limit the spread of the COVID-19 coronavirus, I must urge people living outside the county not to visit. A national emergency shut-down of businesses and schools is not an excuse for a holiday.
"Cumbria County Council yesterday urged people to stay at home as far as possible to protect out NHS and save lives. I reiterate that advice and it is important that we all follow it.
“The health, social care and emergency services in Cumbria are resourced to serve the 500,000 resident population and will be stretched to breaking point by this crisis. Large numbers of visitors will only place an additional burden on these hard-pushed professionals.
"People are safest and their health and that of their families is best protected by staying at home and heeding advice on social distancing.
“These are unprecedented times and our first priority is the protection of life. People's lives must come first."
Would they come if they knew that Cumbria only has 2.5 full sized hospitals, the rest are small hospitals with no A&E or cottage hospitals that are very small. The two main hospitals are more than 90 miles apart. If they become overwhelmed due to visitors, this then has a knock on effect for those hospital that take Cumbria's emergencies, usually Newcastle and Lancaster, adding unwanted additional pressure for them. On top of that one of the hospitals takes some emergencies from the south of Scotland. I am sure this situation is played out in lots of rural counties and rural Scotland, Wales and Ireland.
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The Scottish Highlands and Islands have seen an influx of "happy campers" and it had just been on the BBC News that Norfolk is experiencing this too. What planet are some people on >:( >:( >:(
Stay at home please and do not travel to your holiday homes or move around the country in your campervans - what part of that is so difficult to understand.
We have cancelled our holiday at Easter to Aberdeenshire. Apart from putting more strain on a small community if I am going to catch this b....y virus then there is no place like home. :) :)
Sorry but this irresponsible behaviour really winds me up.
Take care,
Dorrie
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See my reply #2 Dorrie...if the campsites closed, they wouldn't be able to go at all. Time for the Government to enforced closure of all Holiday Parks and Campsites for the safety of all concerned. We will get through this very difficult period but it is going to take a lot more enforcement as many are not listening to the current advice...soon, they won't have any choice!
Carol
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National Trust opened some of there houses and gardens 2 days ago for people to "relax and refresh" but have now made a "U" turn to prevent the spread of the virus. Which of course is the right decision. Even with one way systems and social distancing it didn't work.
Sandra
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51994504
Busiest day in living memory in Snowdonia - yesterday.
I suppose they were all the much maligned over 70’s having fun >:(
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The shutdown in Quito seems to be quite effective. I stepped out yesterday - the alley was empty. I walked twenty yards out to the street - it was empty, too, though the mini-mart down the block appeared to be open. I walked up to the corner of a main through street - there were two pedestrians at a distance and one car. I walked back to the corner of the other through street the situation was the same - a couple of people on foot, two cars stopped at the light. This is a densely populated commercial/residential area located just two blocks from a major north/south avenue. It is at the edge of a normally bustling area with lots of bars, restaurants, tourists and young people.
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My employer has split the company down the middle. Half of us are to come in one week and the other half the next, turn and turn about,
However- I am a Type 1 diabetic and, therefore, on the vulnerable list, I believe. And I have been told on my weeks in work, I am to share someone’s computer.
I am expecting/hoping to get a letter from the NHS. I have been told that they cannot refuse to pay me if that happens. We shall see.
I am terrified. If I catch this, I will probably not survive. I may never see my daughter, who lives a couple of hours from us, again.
There, I’ve said it, ??? ??? ???
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Sorry to say Lisajb that you probably will not get a letter.
Letters being sent to people to completely isolate for 12 weeks are for the following groups, on the whole -
Those who have received organ transplants, are living with severe respiratory conditions such as cystic fibrosis and severe chronic bronchitis (COPD) or specific cancers like of the blood or bone marrow. And some – though not all – of those receiving certain types of drug treatments including ones which suppress the immune system – leaving the body less able to fight off the virus.
My husband and I are both over 70 with underlying health conditions, but don't expect to get a letter. We are lucky in some ways that we can keep away from everyone else, and don't have to go to work.
If you have to share a computer, could you use it for a few hours after thoroughly cleaning it, then the other person, or are you likely to be sharing it all the time?
Keep safe.
Regards Margaret
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I’m expendable then ???
Office cleaning there is a lick and a promise at the best of times. I got my hands on one tin of anti bac wipes, gave my own computer and desk a hose down - and it was filthy.
There are two I could use, one desk is less cluttered so easier to clean, although I don’t like the way it’s owner has set it up, it is probably the better one to use. And it’s location puts space in between me and other people.
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Oh well, if I cop it I can try and find my outstanding brick walls on the other side.
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The Caravan Club has just closed all of its sites. Some friends of mine were on one of them and have been unceremoniously thrown off!! It is so tempting to think that we can self-isolate in our motorhomes, completely missing the point that we are travelling and therefore adding to the risks for everyone.
I am completely in agreement with Scotland and The Lake District saying "Go away, we don't want you at the moment".
Jen - asthmatic in Cumbria. :D
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We pussy foot around too much in this country.
I've just heard from a friend that a couple who were holidaying in one of the Canary Islands (I forget which one) had been holed up in their hotel all day and went out for a stroll in the evening. They'd got no more than about 600 yards when stopped by a policeman, asked where they were going and politely told to go back to their hotel.
As far as I'm aware, the Europeans have not resorted to panic buying either.
What is it about the Brits? Are we naturally rebellious or just plain ignorant?
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Calmac have just announced that only locals will be able to travel to and from the islands when they need to for essential supplies and business. Anyone on the island can leave but no outsiders will be allowed over.
In answer to your question Jill, I think it's a bit of both. Born I suspect from the idea of imperial superiority taught to so many generations for over 100 years. The assumption that we are better than everyone, that no one can tell us what to do that we will be fine and so on.
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I think there's also a fierce streak of independence* in there as well.
I'm in the danger age and health category and, having had a refusal from my chemist to deliver my medication, which I need this next week, I intend to catch a bus and go and pick it up myself. This, despite a note from my (much younger) neighbours offering any help I need, plus one of those leaflets through the door from another near neighbour ticking the shopping box. Both notes helped restore my faith in my fellow humans which has been on a steep downward slope since all this started.
I know I should take them up on their offers but I am not ill so why should I put them at risk rather than myself? They both have children. It doesn't feel right.
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The Caravan Club has just closed all of its sites. Some friends of mine were on one of them and have been unceremoniously thrown off!! It is so tempting to think that we can self-isolate in our motorhomes, completely missing the point that we are travelling and therefore adding to the risks for everyone.
I am completely in agreement with Scotland and The Lake District saying "Go away, we don't want you at the moment".
Jen - asthmatic in Cumbria. :D
I know up to the day before yesterday, the Camping and Caravanning Club where open with sanitary blocks closed, but that could have changed now. We have two breaks booked one of them for Easter. Needless to say, we won't be going anywhere in the caravan anytime soon. I'm surprised that it took so long for them to respond
given that travel is advised only where absolutely necessary, why risk further spread if the virus around the UK ??? Yes we are disappointed but so are millions of others whose lives have been disrupted due to the current crisis.
We will share a bottle of wine in our caravan taking in the view of our garden and imagine that we are somewhere else...for now ;D
Carol
Added: Just received an email to say that all Campsites will be closed with immediate effect, The Camping and Caravanning Club
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I think there's also a fierce streak of independence* in there as well.
I'm in the danger age and health category and, having had a refusal from my chemist to deliver my medication, which I need this next week, I intend to catch a bus and go and pick it up myself. This, despite a note from my (much younger) neighbours offering any help I need, plus one of those leaflets through the door from another near neighbour ticking the shopping box. Both notes helped restore my faith in my fellow humans which has been on a steep downward slope since all this started.
I know I should take them up on their offers but I am not ill so why should I put them at risk rather than myself? They both have children. It doesn't feel right.
Just accept their help. Risking being ill doesn't help you, them, the health workers or anyone else.
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So much for social distancing.....
Have you seen the pictures of the crowds that have flocked to Bournemouth, Brighton, Skegness and probably many, many more.............
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
Sandra
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From today's IOM Government Press Conference (16:00 Sunday 22nd):
All schools to close from end of school day tomorrow, Monday.
All pubs and clubs to close from midnight tonight.
Extended to all cafes and restaurants - but takeaway service allowed.
Island borders closed to non-residents.
Chief Minister makes plea to Manx people to change behaviour and says this “is no longer optional”.
He says to all - ”Do not go to friends for dinner”, “do not go to social gatherings”.
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My daughter's friend has juts come to the door to see if she's coming out to play. I swear that will well and truly be what pushes my sanity over the edge. When we do end up with full enforced locked down I know who I'm going to blame, all those who are completely and utterly incapable of following basic advice.
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Well then, I have just heard that several members of my regular singing group have been confirmed as having, or having had, the virus. It will be a fortnight on Tuesday since we last met but I'm not sure how long I have to wait before saying that I am "safe" from that particular source.
Also, without any other symptoms, I have had this for the last four days..
https://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/18324491.loss-smell-taste-coronavirus-symptoms/?ref=fbshr&fbclid=IwAR338BUSwiMMAFFzGjd-9tPVljVMW3KzBbolhENa_DIEIp_bkEFNjhfr2-A
There is no way I will be tested on this basis but how do I know if I have had it?
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So much for social distancing.....
Have you seen the pictures of the crowds that have flocked to Bournemouth, Brighton, Skegness and probably many, many more.............
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
Sandra
I expect they were having a good day out after stripping the shelves bare in their local supermarkets :-X
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There is no way I will be tested on this basis but how do I know if I have had it?
Raised temp and/or new persistent dry cough - mildly
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Deaths up another 47 to 281 - over 5700 cases reported but probably many more.....................
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There is no way I will be tested on this basis but how do I know if I have had it?
Raised temp and/or new persistent dry cough - mildly
Neither of those things, though I do have a permanent persistent cough, so I could have missed that aspect of it. I usually know when "my" cough changes to something which could be infection related but not always. About a week ago, I felt just a tiny bit feverish but it was minimal and I decided that I was just being paranoid.
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I despair!
Do they think its a holiday? Are they really all so damned ignorant that they don't think it will happen to them?
I suspect all this reporting of deaths of the elderly with underlying health problems has lulled them into a false sense of security that indeed it won't happen to them.
Scrolling down Sandra's link, I see The Morons are still stripping supermarket shelves as soon as they're filled and totally ignoring avoiding the hour laid aside for NHS staff.
Before all this, I hadn't realised what a nasty set of pillocks Brits have become (sorry - perhaps its different in Wales and Scotland?). Speaking in general, of course.
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There is no way I will be tested on this basis but how do I know if I have had it?
Raised temp and/or new persistent dry cough - mildly
You can't know for sure if you've had it without testing. The mild version is like so many other infections in terms of the way you feel.
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I despair!
Do they think its a holiday? Are they really all so damned ignorant that they don't think it will happen to them?
I suspect all this reporting of deaths of the elderly with underlying health problems has lulled them into a false sense of security that indeed it won't happen to them.
Scrolling down Sandra's link, I see The Morons are still stripping supermarket shelves as soon as they're filled and totally ignoring avoiding the hour laid aside for NHS staff.
Before all this, I hadn't realised what a nasty set of pillocks Brits have become (sorry - perhaps its different in Wales and Scotland?). Speaking in general, of course.
Not different in SCotland I'm afraid, a colleague went this morning. She said they weren't checking ID just asking if you were NHS, said it was busier than normal for a Sunday morning. One nurse there in uniform allegedly.
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You can't know for sure if you've had it without testing. The mild version is like so many other infections in terms of the way you feel.
I would just like to know if there is any truth in the link I posted. My lack of sense of smell or taste has been bloody awful for several days now but until a friend posted the link to its possible connection to Covid19, I just assumed it was that I must have had a sinus infection. All normal colds go straight to my sinuses but I have never experienced anything like this.
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There are even people trying to sell "fake" Covid 19 test kits
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51991245
Sandra
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You can't know for sure if you've had it without testing. The mild version is like so many other infections in terms of the way you feel.
I would just like to know if there is any truth in the link I posted. My lack of sense of smell or taste has been bloody awful for several days now but until a friend posted the link to its possible connection to Covid19, I just assumed it was that I must have had a sinus infection. All normal colds go straight to my sinuses but I have never experienced anything like this.
I think that was reported a few days ago saying you could be a carrier of the virus and the advice was to self isolate.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-symptoms-loss-of-smell-taste-covid-19-anosmia-hyposmia-2020-3?r=US&IR=T
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/loss-of-smell-may-be-a-sign-of-covid-19-infection-doctors-groups-1.4863341
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-experts-say-new-symptoms-could-be-loss-taste-or-smell-11961439
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New order in Quito: Only people 18-55 allowed out on the streets and even then only on days determined by their id card number.
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You can't know for sure if you've had it without testing. The mild version is like so many other infections in terms of the way you feel.
I would just like to know if there is any truth in the link I posted. My lack of sense of smell or taste has been bloody awful for several days now but until a friend posted the link to its possible connection to Covid19, I just assumed it was that I must have had a sinus infection. All normal colds go straight to my sinuses but I have never experienced anything like this.
Unless the link is from an official NHS site, I think you can safely treat it as utter poppycock.
If those were related symptoms, I think they would be listed on official websites, or on sites such as the BBC, and so far as I am aware, they are not.
If people in your Choir was it, that you last saw almost a fortnight ago, might have had it, your 14 days isolation is almost up already, and if the feeling of mild feverishness from 7 days ago was the virus, then again, the seven days isolation from having symptoms is also about over.
That said, it is not confirmed that having the virus necessarily makes you immune, so essentially the best option remains to carry out sensible precautions.
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Unless the link is from an official NHS site, I think you can safely treat it as utter poppycock.
If those were related symptoms, I think they would be listed on official websites, or on sites such as the BBC, and so far as I am aware, they are not.
I'm not for one minute saying that I actually believe it but equally, not prepared to totally dismiss it as "poppycock" either. I'd like to see a bit more science before assuming anything!
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My daughter thinks she has had the virus - a cough and painful chest but no obvious temperature. She had an email from the head teacher of the school where she does dinner duty, enquiring about the results of her test, which of course she has not had!! We are wondering what planet this lady lives on. I think I heard today that the test is not completely accurate anyway.
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Does this count as science?
https://www.fifthsense.org.uk/covid-19-corona-virus-and-smell-loss-guidance-from-fifth-sense-medical-director/
In other news, I am utterly appalled at the irresponsible attitude taken by the biker community, which has been gathering in force all around the country, as if this was just any old Sunday!
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My daughter thinks she has had the virus - a cough and painful chest but no obvious temperature. She had an email from the head teacher of the school where she does dinner duty, enquiring about the results of her test, which of course she has not had!! We are wondering what planet this lady lives on. I think I heard today that the test is not completely accurate anyway.
Her manager is breaking the rules if she does not let her self isolate as the rules are isolate for symptoms.
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Does this count as science?
https://www.fifthsense.org.uk/covid-19-corona-virus-and-smell-loss-guidance-from-fifth-sense-medical-director/
In other news, I am utterly appalled at the irresponsible attitude taken by the biker community, which has been gathering in force all around the country, as if this was just any old Sunday!
Well it’s scientific, it’s just that one set of experts do not necessarily agree with a different set.
I prefer to listen to those who have actually treated and cured real patients.
Inundated with messages from friends and relatives saying I’ve seen this on Facebook, misinformation on Facebook is fuelling the problem
So a million or so of us are to be put in solitary confinement, a fate reserved for dangerous criminals in prison, and only then for seven days.
A death sentence from insanity, methinks.
We have bikers round here, one of them is occupying an intensive care bed at the moment.
Mike
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Inundated with messages from friends and relatives saying I’ve seen this on Facebook, misinformation on Facebook is fuelling the problem
Mike
It is an interesting thing that there are so many epidemiology "experts" on Facebook, isn't it!! ;D ;D ;D
Having said that, I think that any social media site can be used to beneficial effect. I am currently sharing photographs with one group of friends and watching several others performing their gigs in isolation. If it helps with our mental health, then I say long live FB! :)
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Inundated with messages from friends and relatives saying I’ve seen this on Facebook, misinformation on Facebook is fuelling the problem
Mike
It is an interesting thing that there are so many epidemiology "experts" on Facebook, isn't it!! ;D ;D ;D
Having said that, I think that any social media site can be used to beneficial effect. I am currently sharing photographs with one group of friends and watching several others performing their gigs in isolation. If it helps with our mental health, then I say long live FB! :)
Our dance teacher and musical maestro are organising a virtual tea dance on face book, I will have to work out how to send the music by Bluetooth to the sound bar on the tv, and move some furniture ;D ;D ;D
Mike
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I have many friends who make their living in the world of folk music. Those who are full time musicians and singers are really struggling now and will do for many months. Lots of festivals have been cancelled - my partner and I have both lost bookings, though we don't rely on them financially ( we'd have starved long ago if we did). But the online community is great and keeping spirits raised at the moment. I am missing my trio singing something shocking! :(
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The problem with people ignoring the current Covid-19 medical advice is caused by the innate British sense of freedom and the "you can't tell me what to do" attitude. However, there is a whole world of difference between being recalcitrant and pig-headed stupidity. I'm afraid that the attitude of the people who seem to think they are immune to Covid-19 and can congregate in large numbers without any consequences are in the latter category, not that they care.
There was a post on FB yesterday from some moron who, because he has a caravan in Wales, took exception to being told that he, plus others like him, should stay away. He claimed that he would visit and cough, sneeze and spit everywhere. On what did base his inalienable right to visit my country, behave in such a manner and possibly spread disease?. It was because, over the years he has owned a caravan, he has contributed thousands of pounds to the Welsh economy.
Unless people do as they have been asked I can see that people in Wales, Scotland, Cornwall, Cumbria etc. may well take matters into their own hands.
:)
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I have many friends who make their living in the world of folk music. Those who are full time musicians and singers are really struggling now and will do for many months. Lots of festivals have been cancelled - my partner and I have both lost bookings, though we don't rely on them financially ( we'd have starved long ago if we did). But the online community is great and keeping spirits raised at the moment. I am missing my trio singing something shocking! :(
No need to miss your singing friends join together for a jam session on skype.
Cheers
Guy
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I have many friends who make their living in the world of folk music. Those who are full time musicians and singers are really struggling now and will do for many months. Lots of festivals have been cancelled - my partner and I have both lost bookings, though we don't rely on them financially ( we'd have starved long ago if we did). But the online community is great and keeping spirits raised at the moment. I am missing my trio singing something shocking! :(
No need to miss your singing friends join together for a jam session on skype.
Cheers
Guy
It is happening! And we are looking at Zoom for learning new material together. It will be weird though, singing to a screen!
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Can any of you RootsChatters give your opinion on my situation please.
My husband is 79 years old, I am 58. He has a heart condition but it doesn't cause him much problem but I consider him a high risk.
I have started working from home because I don't want to go to work and come home and potentially infect him. So, I have considered us both self-isolating for three months.
Today, Boris Johnson seems to be saying that the 'over 70's but not the most vulnerable' group need to stay in doors as much as possible and be careful if they do go out by staying 2 metres from everyone else.
So, where does that leave me? I want to protect my husband but we also need to buy food, go to the bank, get prescriptions etc. Does this mean we need someone to do that for us or is it OK for me to do these things?
I had planned to go shopping later this week, take OH with me in the car, leave him in the car or allow him to wander around a remote part of the carpark as long as he doesn't interact with anyone. But then I will be in a busy supermarket and could possible infect him when I come out.
Am I being a bit over-sensitive about this?
Rishile
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Can any of you RootsChatters give your opinion on my situation please.
My husband is 79 years old, I am 58. He has a heart condition but it doesn't cause him much problem but I consider him a high risk.
I have started working from home because I don't want to go to work and come home and potentially infect him. So, I have considered us both self-isolating for three months.
Today, Boris Johnson seems to be saying that the 'over 70's but not the most vulnerable' group need to stay in doors as much as possible and be careful if they do go out by staying 2 metres from everyone else.
So, where does that leave me? I want to protect my husband but we also need to buy food, go to the bank, get prescriptions etc. Does this mean we need someone to do that for us or is it OK for me to do these things?
I had planned to go shopping later this week, take OH with me in the car, leave him in the car or allow him to wander around a remote part of the carpark as long as he doesn't interact with anyone. But then I will be in a busy supermarket and could possible infect him when I come out.
Am I being a bit over-sensitive about this?
Rishile
Over-sensitive? Not at all.
From what you say, your husband is clearly high risk. Might he be on the list that will be circulated soon?
I would say - if you can get someone to do the shopping etc, do so. If not - leave your husband at home while you go out to do the essential jobs, and then have a good wash when you get home. It wouldn't be much fun for him to sit in the car park. Self isolate as much as possible.
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Can any of you RootsChatters give your opinion on my situation please.
My husband is 79 years old, I am 58. He has a heart condition but it doesn't cause him much problem but I consider him a high risk.
I have started working from home because I don't want to go to work and come home and potentially infect him. So, I have considered us both self-isolating for three months.
Today, Boris Johnson seems to be saying that the 'over 70's but not the most vulnerable' group need to stay in doors as much as possible and be careful if they do go out by staying 2 metres from everyone else.
So, where does that leave me? I want to protect my husband but we also need to buy food, go to the bank, get prescriptions etc. Does this mean we need someone to do that for us or is it OK for me to do these things?
I had planned to go shopping later this week, take OH with me in the car, leave him in the car or allow him to wander around a remote part of the carpark as long as he doesn't interact with anyone. But then I will be in a busy supermarket and could possible infect him when I come out.
Am I being a bit over-sensitive about this?
Rishile
Over-sensitive? Not at all.
From what you say, your husband is clearly high risk. Might he be on the list that will be circulated soon?
I would say - if you can get someone to do the shopping etc, do so. If not - leave your husband at home while you go out to do the essential jobs, and then have a good wash when you get home. It wouldn't be much fun for him to sit in the car park. Self isolate as much as possible.
Thank you Mike. The only reason I said he could sit in the car/car park was for a bit of fresh air and variety of scenery. He accepts he won't go in the supermarket.
I don't think he is in the higher category (I could be wrong). He had a heart attack four years ago but hasn't had any problems at all for over two years now. He is very fit and active.
Maybe he could sit in the back seat of the car whilst I drive home ;D
Rishile
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Over-sensitive? Not at all.
From what you say, your husband is clearly high risk. Might he be on the list that will be circulated soon?
I would say - if you can get someone to do the shopping etc, do so. If not - leave your husband at home while you go out to do the essential jobs, and then have a good wash when you get home. It wouldn't be much fun for him to sit in the car park. Self isolate as much as possible.
I agree. There will be someone in your area who can help with shopping - loads of support groups cropping up. The important thing is to take care of your husband and of yourself. Not over-reacting at all.
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There is no way I will be tested on this basis but how do I know if I have had it?
Raised temp and/or new persistent dry cough - mildly
Neither of those things, though I do have a permanent persistent cough, so I could have missed that aspect of it. I usually know when "my" cough changes to something which could be infection related but not always. About a week ago, I felt just a tiny bit feverish but it was minimal and I decided that I was just being paranoid.
I have a permanent cough too, a left over side effect from either statins or a kidney medication I took some years ago. It has never gone away.
I do feel hot, but only at certain times - suffering menopausal flushes!
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I don't believe this ...... I don't believe this...... I don't
I have been trying to get a delivery slot at Sainsburys since Thursday - nothing for 3 weeks. Each time I went in, It was the same. I also registered with all the other supermarkets, just in case
but....
I went into the Sainsburys site 15 mins ago and lo and behold - slots tomorrow. I'm expecting delivery of my goodies tomorrow at 10.am -11am..
There was only one thing that they reckoned they'd not got.
Fingers crossed
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Gadget, great news. I read they are recruiting drivers very quickly. Also, someone applied for a job at 7pm, and got it by 10pm.
Martin
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I received an email from Sainsbury today saying that they would be having additional slots for Over 70's (sorry if it doesn't apply, Gadget). The email said they would be notifying everyone on their system that it would apply to and we would receive that later today or tomorrow.
Rishile
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We are both 75 and have some health issues but none that I would admit to :)
I'll report back tomorrow.
I'm wondering if they are going to do the packing overnight/ early hours before the hoards arrive.
It's a relief because I felt very vulnerable earlier in the week.
PS - they didn't inform me as they had no idea how old I was.
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Gadget - if you have a Nectar card they will know.
Rishile
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We went to Sainsbury’s at lunchtime today, very quiet it was, they are going to have a lot of flowers on special offer ;D ;D
But we got everything on our list except washing up liquid, kept the distance at the checkout.
I have read again the updated advice on the gov website, and cast aside what the newspapers say, what the bbc says and interpreted it carefully.
I shall avoid “ social gatherings” that I interpret as two or more people chatting, mixing closely together, as in pubs clubs dances etc, but we will continue to shop.
I notice the avoid unnecessary travel is not actually there, so you are ok in the car,
Am I being irresponsible?
Mike
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Gadget - if you have a Nectar card they will know.
Rishile
I can't remember giving my dofb when I got one. Info on my account doesn't have those details, just name and address.
I do tend to spend a lot with them - and Waitrose when they send coupons ;D
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My husband is 79 years old, I am 58. He has a heart condition but it doesn't cause him much problem but I consider him a high risk.
The government article on 'shielding' the 'extremely vulnerable' has a list of criteria for people they consider to be vulnerable and it doesn't look as if your husband fits any of the criteria. The article states that NHS England will be contacting those affected people by letter by Sun 29th March.
But if you have any doubts, and you don't hear anything, best to contact his GP.
Today's BBC article covering the PM's daily update links to the same gov. article. The BBC article refers to the 'particularly vulnerable', so the gov. article does appear to be the list referred to today.
Gov.uk: Guidance on shielding and protecting people defined on medical grounds as extremely vulnerable from COVID-19
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19
BBC: Coronavirus: Follow virus advice or 'tougher measures' likely, says PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51998559
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My husband is 79 years old, I am 58. He has a heart condition but it doesn't cause him much problem but I consider him a high risk.
The government article on 'shielding' the 'extremely vulnerable' has a list of criteria for people they consider to be vulnerable and it doesn't look as if your husband fits any of the criteria.
Thanks for this. He doesn't fit any of those criteria so that's one thing I don't have to worry about.
Rishile
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Great news Gadget, it must be a great relief to know your food is being delivered.
We shopped at our regular supermarket, Morrisons, on Saturday afternoon. We are in our 50's and are shopping in store to give the more vulnerable a chance of an online shopping slot. The staff there said they were well stocked when they opened, but as the children are off school the shelves and freezers had been stripped, it was quite shocking to see the empty shelves. I think the parents have shopped for the rest of the year instead of just shopping for what they need for a week or so. We couldn't get everything we needed but we will manage.
I really do feel for the people who need to rely on online shopping and struggle to get a delivery.
Take care.
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Contacting our GP is impossible. The surgery is closed. If you ring you get through to a Receptionist who is not able to do much. My husband has tablets to control his rheumatoid arthritis. In order to get a repeat prescription he has to have a blood test done which requires a form from the Doc. Can we get one of these forms? Not a chance. For whatever reason one cannot be sent via the post and one cannot be collected from the surgery as it is closed. He has put in a repeat prescription with a note saying he'll get the blood test done when they can get a form to him, but we are not holding our breath that he will actually get the tablets.
Emeltom
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I wish the food situation would settle down. We need bread and milk and I'd like some meat of some sort to cook. I'd like to simply go to our local small coop, but based on last weeks attempt, where I only got milk, I don't know if I'll end up going to another supermarket further away and if they haven't got things then further away still. All this puts us and others at greater risk......
Some shop pictures show glimpses of more fully stocked shops so fingers crossed it improves. Daughter lives down south and she still can't get loo rolls.
( we don't have a greengrocer , butcher etc)
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If the supermarkets are doing as they're promising to do, i.e limit purchases of bread, milk, toilet rolls etc to two per person, it should eventually settle down of it's own accord. Of course there will always be the unscrupulous people who go in and repeat it the next day and the next etc, or send in every family member, I just hope that those people get sick of doing that. And that they end up with a load of stale bread and sour milk! ;)
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Boris needs to toughen up.
There are far to many people going out when they do not need to, groups of kids playing football together, families of all ages walking together where Gran is with them.
Talked to a guy whilst I was walking the dog and he did not see what the fuss is about.
Crowds at seaside, parks and Snowdonia shown on the news.
People will die who would otherwise live if stronger steps are not taken.
I had flu 40 years ago, it was hell, I felt terrible for weeks and weeks after.
You do not want to get flu, please do not assume that you will be OK, for you will only be OK if you and all around you adopt a more careful livestyle.
Be safe.
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I don't believe this ...... I don't believe this...... I don't
I have been trying to get a delivery slot at Sainsburys since Thursday - nothing for 3 weeks. Each time I went in, It was the same. I also registered with all the other supermarkets, just in case
but....
I went into the Sainsburys site 15 mins ago and lo and behold - slots tomorrow. I'm expecting delivery of my goodies tomorrow at 10.am -11am..
There was only one thing that they reckoned they'd not got.
Fingers crossed
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You should get an email tomorrow before your delivery which will tell you what they are delivering and what they have substituted. If they substitute an item with something of a higher value they will charge you the higher amount and send an e voucher in a couple of days refunding the difference between what your original item cost and what they charged for the replacement.
Hope you are lucky and get everything. I have a delivery due Wednesday all going well.
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THey only seem to have had to substitute a few things - some with organics, 1 x 6 eggs rather than a 10 egg carton, an organic sweetheart cabbage for a standard one, cushelle loo paper rather than Sainburys own make ..... :)
They were praised on the radio for doing this for the vulnerable over 70s and, most likely, those in the very vulnerable group.
We are very lucky that we can afford food. Remember the food banks that are struggling. We made a contribution to our local one last week. It's one of our special charities.
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We are very lucky that we can afford food. Remember the food banks that are struggling. We made a contribution to our local one last week. It's one of our special charities.
And imagine what it must be like in a refugee camp at the moment. Minimal health care, erratic food supply, poor sanitation and no chance of social distancing or isolation.
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So pleased to hear you have your Sainsbury's delivering coming... it's quite a stress wondering how long you're going to gave to wait...
I placed an order with Waitrose last week but delivery slot long way ahead but if I collect it it's still 13th April at the earliest and even then some items not available and others been removed I keep amending it day by day.
In the mean time I'm going to have to get some fresh items in as not enough to last till 13th and I'm dreading going out... will make sure I get there b4 opening time when queues shorter 🤞
I just wish those that have over bought would think of the pressure they're putting on others and the supermarket staff...
Caroline
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We are very lucky that we can afford food. Remember the food banks that are struggling. We made a contribution to our local one last week. It's one of our special charities.
Thank you Gadget. I help to run one, and it is really difficult at the moment! Donations are down, usage is up, and to buy supplies is expensive and has to be done via the local supermarket manager at the moment.
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Everyone should watch I, Daniel Blake and think how luck we are.
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Everyone should watch I, Daniel Blake and think how luck we are.
We have that on DVD and is on our list to re-watch over the next week or so. It really made me think differently about unemployment and benefits. Was there a follow up film?
Rishile
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Everyone should watch I, Daniel Blake and think how luck we are.
We have that on DVD and is on our list to re-watch over the next week or so. It really made me think differently about unemployment and benefits. Was there a follow up film?
Rishile
"Sorry we missed you" about the gig economy and delivery drivers. Another very good film but maybe not with quite the same impact as "I, Daniel Blake". Very thought-provoking though.
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So pleased to hear you have your Sainsbury's delivering coming... it's quite a stress wondering how long you're going to gave to wait...
I placed an order with Waitrose last week but delivery slot long way ahead but if I collect it it's still 13th April at the earliest and even then some items not available and others been removed I keep amending it day by day.
I don't know if Waitrose is the same as Sainsburys but in the past on Sainsburys I have set up my order a week in advance and checked it out. I then go back into it during the week adding things to it but I do not check the amended order out until the day before the delivery.
That way any items that go out of stock and then return later in the week don't go from my shop. I think at the moment I may do my final checkout a day earlier than usual just in case of internet problems. ;D
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Hi
Follow all the Government precautions and Official Advice.
Wash hands regularly and keep a distance from those around us etc. The message is extremely clear, but some are still ignoring it!
UK Influenza kills 8,000 each year.
So everyone needs to stop panicking and just buy what they need and go shopping as they normally would, pre-Corona (as they did before the Virus).
Our family has two NHS Trust Staff. I am absolutely astounded at what Government Departments have considered, dealt with and put in place. I keep thinking I'd never have thought of this, or that.
The Buyers have been working hard for over two months in our Trust and everyone throughout the NHS is committed and valued and working very hard.
But before anyone strips shelves of food and supplies, please think of others who are essential workers, also elderly and vulnerable too.
I can only think pictures on TV from Italy and elsewhere are whipping up fear and anxiety here in the UK.
My heart didn't feel right, went on my monitor and my Blood Pressure was significantly higher yesterday, I didn't call anyone, I had a lie down (no TV or radio) and after four hours my Blood Pressure returned to acceptable readings.
I feel some of us are creating anxiety in ourselves, by watching TV news too much.
I am switching off my TV now, except for Prime Minister Briefings and Official Announcements. I feel TV is causing the fear and panic in the UK.
My neighbour works for a main Supermarket and some people have been rude if one item is out of stock. What is happening, surely we can eat something else?
Brits in WW 2 were always resourceful, but we have kind of allowed ourselves to watch and follow it on TV and Social Media, which has created panic and anxiety in ourselves (sometimes before we even realise it).
We have top companies working on special equipment and I am sure UK Government is mindful of our needs.
Please try not to panic, nor be anxious, it only makes it worse for both ourselves and others.
Take great care all, Mark
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I wish the media had kept this totally to themselves. We wouldn't be in any much more danger, and we certainly wouldn't be worrying about it.
The feeling I get, out and about during the last few days is half the people in the UK are in a state of panic and half couldn't care less. That sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Martin
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You are quite right Martin, I feel in the state of panic to be honest but I am more fortunate than some others who don't share their lives with a partner or family or have someone to talk to, I have sent emails and texts to my family, I wonder who will reply, I just want everyone to stay safe as we all do and return to some sort of normality
I have decided to spring clean, am taking the beds right back to the mattress and washing everything, can't miss out on such a lovely day weather-wise, might collapse onto a garden chair PM as out 3 piece is away being recovered, all bad timing but it was already set up along with a new carpet.
Please take care
Louisa Maud
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So pleased to hear you have your Sainsbury's delivering coming... it's quite a stress wondering how long you're going to gave to wait...
I placed an order with Waitrose last week but delivery slot long way ahead but if I collect it it's still 13th April at the earliest and even then some items not available and others been removed I keep amending it day by day.
Waitrose aren't doing special slot for 70+ and vulnerable as Sainsburys are. I've just checked.
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I do think all the hype etc in the media is what is causing a lot of the panic. It's as if they are deliberately trying to frighten people in order to get them to obey all the rules/diktats being put in place.
I have given up reading about it in the newspaper and only watch the 'official' items on TV such as the PM's daily briefing. I don't see any point in getting hysterical because if you are going to get it, you are going to get it.
Emeltom
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Waitrose aren't doing special slot for 70+ and vulnerable as Sainsburys are. I've just checked.
Maybe they think most OAP's will be shopping somewhere cheaper ;D. ;D
I normally buy all my meat, fish and the occasional ready meal from Waitrose & M&S in store so am not getting those anymore on home delivery. Shame M&S has not got their Ocado delivery in full swing
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So pleased to hear you have your Sainsbury's delivering coming... it's quite a stress wondering how long you're going to gave to wait...
I placed an order with Waitrose last week but delivery slot long way ahead but if I collect it it's still 13th April at the earliest and even then some items not available and others been removed I keep amending it day by day.
Waitrose aren't doing special slot for 70+ and vulnerable as Sainsburys are. I've just checked.
Our Waitrose definitely has a special slot, 8 a.m. - 9 a.m. We don't normally shop there, but thought it might be less crowded, so my husband went down at 8 a.m. He reported that it wasn't at all overcrowded, and that there was a security man on the door who he saw turn a few people away.
I am in a very high risk category so now we are battening down the hatches. Luckily we have good kind neighbours.
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Good Morning Chatters. Nice to see everyone logging in this morning and so far all is well with most of us.
Hmmm Hong Kong perhaps starting a "second wave" of infections, people returning from overseas or that's what they are saying. :-\
We had battened down the hatches to self isolate (health reasons) but my very young sister in law is caring for her father who was diagnosed lung cancer last September, she took leave from work to care for him.
Been doing the school run to help out and collect there two children ( 9 and 11 ) and was relieved when the schools closed on Friday. However, things have got worse, she is living with father 24/7 and brother looks after the children at there house, father is deteriorating quickly now. My brother asked me to go look after the children earlier this morning, whilst he went to collect prescriptions and organise oxygen, doctors and macmillan nurses. How can I refuse to help him out in these awful circumstances, I would feel selfish if I didn't but it is getting more scary now. :'(
A few of our own neighbours have text to ask if we need anything so we have some support in the back ground if we need it.
Sandra
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Our Waitrose definitely has a special slot, 8 a.m. - 9 a.m. We don't normally shop there, but thought it might be less crowded, so my husband went down at 8 a.m. He reported that it wasn't at all overcrowded, and that there was a security man on the door who he saw turn a few people away.
I am in a very high risk category so now we are battening down the hatches. Luckily we have good kind neighbours.
I meant home deliveries Jennifer, not shopping slots.
Our deliveries from Waitrose all come from your establishment so I assume that they have a really big catchment area - Newcastle to Carlisle. They didn't have any an hour ago and it took ages before I could log in.
Morning, Sandra :)
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Just read about your problems, Sandra. It's a great dilemma for you :-\
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Just tried to register with Sainsburys and they have a pop up saying no new registrations due to high demand
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Our Waitrose definitely has a special slot, 8 a.m. - 9 a.m. We don't normally shop there, but thought it might be less crowded, so my husband went down at 8 a.m. He reported that it wasn't at all overcrowded, and that there was a security man on the door who he saw turn a few people away.
I am in a very high risk category so now we are battening down the hatches. Luckily we have good kind neighbours.
I meant home deliveries Jennifer, not shopping slots.
Our deliveries from Waitrose all come from your establishment so I assume that they have a really big catchment area - Newcastle to Carlisle. They didn't have any an hour ago and it took ages before I could log in.
Silly me :-X Guilty of not reading all the posts properly.
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I am a tad confused, we over 70 are supposed to be staying in yet we are allowed to queue up en masse at certain times at super markets, I really cannot understand that, perhaps with all that is going on I am CONFUSED.COM
Louisa Maud
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You are in a very difficult position Sandra and my heart goes out to you. Needs must and it is your decision how to continue to help.
A family friend has terminal cancer and was taken into hospital on Friday. His sons are allowed limited visiting but his wife who is in her 70's was told she would not be able to see her husband. She is devastated as he will never come home. However, an approach to the hospital was made on her behalf and she will be allowed to visit one last time under very strict conditions.
Dorrie
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My local County Council has detected a large increase in the amount of food waste being sent for recycling. It has reached levels normally seen after Christmas. A great deal of this increase is made up of fresh food, some still in its wrapping.
Now then, I wonder who is responsible for this and where the food has come from?. It really didn't take a genius to realise that, at some point, this would be the result of panic buying. Easy come, easy go.
Selfish ********. >:( >:(
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I said the same standing at a fruit and veg stall last week, yes, selfish people, people seemed to be stacking up but fresh food doesn't last forever
Louisa Maud
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Hats off to Tesco. I got my delivery today (managed to get it booked nearly 3 weeks ago) and they've done pretty well. I only ordered my usual stuff - no 100x toilet rolls! Lots of substitutes, of course, but I expected that, and all are fine. The only items they couldn't substitute were crumpets and eggs. Why on earth would anyone need to bulk buy crumpets or eggs, both have limited shelf life?
As you say, Llwyd, selfish ********
That's me okay for food for a few weeks. I wonder if the panic buying will have died down by the time I'm ready to shop again? I'll worry about that when I have to.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Boris announces some kind of official lockdown today - Nick Hancock looked pretty cheesed off with people's attitudes in an interview today. I keep telling myself that the majority of us are abiding by the advice and its just a few of those who think they're immortal ( more like, remove the 't' from that word) who aren't. It doesn't matter, though, if everyone isn't doing the sensible thing, then the rest of us are wasting our time.
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I went shopping in our local Asda today and was pleasantly surprised to see how full the shelves were looking compared to last week. Still couldn't get any spaghetti but everything else I wanted was there, so may be things are getting better. Surely people can only panic buy so much before they run out of space.
In the mean time back to isolation until more shopping is needed.
Emeltom
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Another thought I had today, I wonder just who would expect to be first in the queue if an inoculation against Covid-19 was discovered tomorrow?.
I think I know the answer.
After all this thinking stuff I must find a darkened room and lie down!.
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The (large) town next to mine has today closed its parks due to the huge numbers of people who went there over the weekend and did not practice social distancing. One comment that I wholeheartedly agreed with was that being told that we could take a walk in the park has led to large numbers of people who never normally take any kind of exercise going out to the park in the way that people do after New Year when they've decided to 'get fit'. This has spoilt it for everyone.
Also, the very pretty village of Osmotherley in North Yorkshire has been swamped with visitors who parked 192 cars in spaces allocated for 56. Apparently the village has a predominantly older population who, as a result of this, couldn't go out as they couldn't maintain the required distance. Similar thoughtlessness has gone on along our lovely coastline.
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Can't believe this, Just heard on my local radio, a school has had the entire contents of their freezer stolen AND took the freezers as well and their dried ingredients, how low can some people stoop
Words fail me
Louisa Maud
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My local County Council has detected a large increase in the amount of food waste being sent for recycling. It has reached levels normally seen after Christmas. A great deal of this increase is made up of fresh food, some still in its wrapping.
Now then, I wonder who is responsible for this and where the food has come from?. It really didn't take a genius to realise that, at some point, this would be the result of panic buying. Easy come, easy go.
Selfish ********. >:( >:(
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I wondered how long it would be, before awful reports of this nature occurred.
Panic buying denied Food Banks of stock and now ...
Raw & Cooked food waste is adding to Greenhouse gas emissions and global warming too!
Whilst some of the world is starving!
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So pleased to hear you have your Sainsbury's delivering coming... it's quite a stress wondering how long you're going to gave to wait...
I placed an order with Waitrose last week but delivery slot long way ahead but if I collect it it's still 13th April at the earliest and even then some items not available and others been removed I keep amending it day by day.
Waitrose aren't doing special slot for 70+ and vulnerable as Sainsburys are. I've just checked.
I've just spoken to our Waitrose and they are doing 8am - 9am tomorrow morning for over 70's.
They have been so helpful today... I have friends/neighbours who live 6 months here and6 months in SA. They are 75 and 80, they were due back on Easter Monday but were advised to bring that forward so are arriving on Wednesday morning.... they always have a Waitrose delivery on the day they arrive but if course this time it's not going to be until 18th April.... they will have to remain isolated so have no opportunity to get essentials to last them so they gave me a list....notbeing too keen to go into stores more than necessary when I explained all this they are putting together the items for me to just pick up and pay for first thing. I think they have been so helpful and it's restored my faith in people.
Caroline
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We live in a small quiet coastal village and decided we would venture out for a short walk along our deserted beach this afternoon. We agreed that if it was too busy - you can see from the clifftop before you get there - we would return home straight away. We walked about 2 miles and saw about a dozen people, mostly walking dogs. EVERYONE moved away when we got close and one couple crossed the road to avoid us when we approached on the return journey. We even laughed and said how good we were at 'doing our bit for Boris'.
We felt we had achieved an ideal situation. We both felt safe but we had some fresh air and exercise in a safe environment and now feel ready for anything.
Rishile
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Hi Caroline
It's special delivery slots that I was referring to.I know about the 8-9 in store oldie hour. We are trying to avoid that as we are keeping our distance.
Waitrose are not, as yet, offering delivery slots for 70+ and vulnerables.
Gadget
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Hi Gadget
Ok, got my wires Crossed! I was impressed that just a phone call explaining the situation they responded in such a positive way.
It's so hard to know what to do for the best... I wouldn't normally do a 'weekly' shop in Waitrose as they're expensive, I usually use Lidls for most... going to venture out in the morning and hope I can get what we need!
Caroline
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I wish the media had kept this totally to themselves. We wouldn't be in any much more danger, and we certainly wouldn't be worrying about it.
The feeling I get, out and about during the last few days is half the people in the UK are in a state of panic and half couldn't care less. That sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Martin
Expect the NHS and our Services to have to deal with a whole range of other Medical symptoms too, stirred up by the TV reports!
It is not nice to find yourself suddenly in A & E and the machine's alarm sounding and your Wife to be told he could have a stroke!
Corona Virus is extremely serious, so Listen and Follow Government Advice!
Keep safe, all the best, Mark
Added: Corona Virus is gravely serious, so Listen and Follow Government Advice, Chief Medical Officer, Official Adverts and NHS Advice! I have deleted & altered parts Mark
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It is absolutely awful - don't act as if it's just flu - there's a vaccine for that.
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It is absolutely awful - don't act as if it's just flu - there's a vaccine for that.
And flu is nowhere near as infectious as this virus, so spreads much more slowly through a population.
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The Media and TV have made this absolutely awful, for those who suffer with anxiety, depression, or have heart and other related medical and undiagnosed medical conditions.
Whilst Piers Morgan (this am) demands Matt Hancock (Secretary of State for Health) to make us all housebound!
A walk outside is good for many of us, as long as we heed UK Government advice.
UK Influenza kills 8,000 yearly.
Expect the NHS and our Services to have to deal with a whole range of other Medical symptoms too, stirred up by the TV media!!
It is not nice to find yourself suddenly in A & E and the machine's alarm sounding and your Wife to be told he could have a stroke!
It is serious, so Listen to Government Advice and how we can help (if we can)!
But stop listening to the TV Media hyping it up, if we can't help, we can only pray and hope for them and pray for those families who have already lost their loved ones.
Those putting themselves forward to help locally, are hardly being mentioned nationally.
Chill everyone, all the best, Mark
That's right, blame the media. If you think this is hype, you're part of the problem.
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I truly don’t understand ?? half the population are terrified, the other half don’t seem to give a monkeys.
London tube trains again today :o : do these people have a genuine death wish.
I blame the “It’s always someone else’s fault” society we have become. No-one wants to take responsibility for anything any more not even their own selves or family :'(
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Also the teenagers who went and coughed in the faces of an elderly couple, the person who intervened was injured as well as the lady.
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Will Eating Bananas Prevent Coronavirus Infection?
False. Shame, though. I'm in the banana capitol of the world. I wonder if the original story was started by Ecuadorian farmers?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bananas-coronavirus/
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Sincere apologies - Mike in Cumbria - BUT you have just returned, I assume to Cumbria, from Haute Vienne in France (earlier posts on RC via Mike in Haute Vienne). I do sincerely hope that you and your family, plus dog, are REALLY self-isolating. :-*
Have you put anyone at risk?
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It is extremely serious, so Listen and Follow Government Advice, Chief Medical Officer, Official Adverts and NHS Advice!
I do want to know the latest and am following advice. I can't understand why some are not!
However, the intense reporting of Corona Virus, is and will be responsible for other medical problems, some requiring NHS / Services support or emergency hospitalisation, now and later.
Some NHS frontline and other Services Staff are and will be affected by what they have and will deal with too, whilst some have been emptying food shelves for all. (We know this from past Reports).
We need to keep strong, so that we can be a listening ear to all those Fantastic Public Servants and our neighbours in our community (in accord with contact advice of course), Mark
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Sincere apologies - Mike in Cumbria - BUT you have just returned, I assume to Cumbria, from Haute Vienne in France (earlier posts on RC via Mike in Haute Vienne). I do sincerely hope that you and your family, plus dog, are REALLY self-isolating. :-*
Have you put anyone at risk?
Completely self-isolating, for that very reason. We'd dearly love to see our son and our lovely grandson but that has to wait..
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Sincere apologies - Mike in Cumbria - BUT you have just returned, I assume to Cumbria, from Haute Vienne in France (earlier posts on RC via Mike in Haute Vienne). I do sincerely hope that you and your family, plus dog, are REALLY self-isolating. :-*
Have you put anyone at risk?
Mike's son is an A & E nurse. You can be assured that Mike will have all the right information and will be doing the right things.
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Fair do's - BUT he travelled hundreds of miles :-X
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I have just had a message from my Hairdresser to she has now closed the shop in line with the Government's recommendations.
Where did I put that hairnet???
Dorrie
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Fair do's - BUT he travelled hundreds of miles :-X
Two of my closest friends had to travel through Spain and France in order to get home last week. They are self-isolating in their village, though it is entirely possible for them to get on to the fells without going near a living soul. They will wear gloves in the event of having to open gates, or climb stiles.
The symptoms which I described a day or two ago are now being treated seriously by the NHS. I am having a phone consultation with a GP tomorrow. I still have precisely no sense of taste or smell!
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Whilst Piers Morgan (this am) demands Matt Hancock (Secretary of State for Health) to make us all housebound!
Which is fine for people like him, who probably have a large house and grounds so can get out of doors. I hate to think of the state both physically and mentally of those who live in small flats if they are not allowed out at all!
If we are all housebound does that mean Piers Morgan won't be able to appear on the television?
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Piers Morgan won't be able to appear on the television?
Oh yes please.
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He already never appears on our telly.
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He already never appears on our telly.
He doesn't appear on ours either, but that doesn't mean that I don't know he's out there somewhere.
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He already never appears on our telly.
He doesn't appear on ours either, but that doesn't mean that I don't know he's out there somewhere.
Good point.
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I bagged two chickens, 3 lbs of pork, a small cheese, 3 l of milk, a dozen eggs, 5 lbs of potatoes, 2 lbs of green peas, 1 lb of radishes, 4 smallish tomatoes and a mango from Rosario my favorite neighborhood produce merchant. Normally, I just buy fruit and veg from her but she also has a limited business in pork, chicken eggs and cheese. On the downside, though, she says supplies are not getting through and she hasn't got much in the way of fresh fruit and veg.
Rosario's husband came on his motorbike to deliver the stuff, wearing a face mask and gloves.
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It is extremely serious, so Listen and Follow Government Advice, Chief Medical Officer, Official Adverts and NHS Advice!
There is to be a UK Government Conference / Statement, Live on TV at about 8.30pm this Evening per C4 News.
Mark
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He already never appears on our telly.
He doesn't appear on ours either, but that doesn't mean that I don't know he's out there somewhere.
Like it!
I text my hairdresser today and she was hoping to still be working next week when I am due for my trim. However if we get the news we expect I think it won't get done. I hate long hair so I suspect my scissors may be used by me at some point and then she can sort it out when we're allowed out again. Only family online are going to see what a state I'll be , so it'll be fine :)
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The symptoms which I described a day or two ago are now being treated seriously by the NHS. I am having a phone consultation with a GP tomorrow. I still have precisely no sense of taste or smell!
Good luck!
Here’s hoping that’s all the symptoms you get.
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He already never appears on our telly.
He doesn't appear on ours either, but that doesn't mean that I don't know he's out there somewhere.
Like it!
I text my hairdresser today and she was hoping to still be working next week when I am due for my trim. However if we get the news we expect I think it won't get done. I hate long hair so I suspect my scissors may be used by me at some point and then she can sort it out when we're allowed out again. Only family online are going to see what a state I'll be , so it'll be fine :)
I was too worried to go last week, now it’s too late, we have 5 salons in our village ::) you can get your hair done, well you could til they all closed today, any which way you like. I think one of them advertises themselves as vegan ???
I’ll need ribbons for plaits soon; bother the sewing shop shut too :D
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The symptoms which I described a day or two ago are now being treated seriously by the NHS. I am having a phone consultation with a GP tomorrow. I still have precisely no sense of taste or smell!
Good luck!
Here’s hoping that’s all the symptoms you get.
Good luck, I hope you get good news tomorrow :)
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Forward planning ;D
Got my hair cut last Thursday; as it was getting a little shaggy.
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