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General => The Common Room => The Lighter Side => Topic started by: jksdelver on Wednesday 25 March 20 07:53 GMT (UK)
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I have located a burial in Ilkeston Derbyshire Feb 14 1977.
However the same persons ‘cremated’ remains are buried 12 March 1977 in Shelf Yorkshire.
The persons address is the same and there is a MI at Shelf showing her and the husbands name
Not showing names as it’s a bit close
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Are you sure it's a burial, and not just a memorial service?
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Looks to me as if they are in both burial registers
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Seems to me as though the person's life was commemorated in a funeral service, but the body was taken for cremation?
Possibly after discussion with the family; or reading of the will?
A friend of a friend was buried here last year, despite making it clear he wished to be cremated.
Unfortunately he didn't put his wishes in writing!
His mother's wish for a burial override anyone else's concerns! :o
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Just strange to me that an entry is in the burial register
Here husband could have actually been the Vicar there at the time
There is an entry at the side picture attached
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Looking at the cremation index it does seems as if she was cremated in the Nottinghamshire area. I presume that was nearest crematorium to Ilkleston
So that answered that
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Thank you for your observation K Garrard
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Looking at your snip of the register, Wilford Hill is a crematorium in Nottinghamshire...
HTH
Paul
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Thanks Paul well found
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Hope you don't mind me asking but is the person in question Ida Ainley. The family grave is at St Michael's (there's a gravestone) and I knew a friend of the family. Her husband Rev. W. H. Ainley cropped up in my research into the history of Shelf and St. Michael's Church.
Regards,
Ben Stables
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Yes WHA is my 2nd cousin 2x removed and connected to my Petty side
Hope you don't mind me asking but is the person in question Ida Ainley. The family grave is at St Michael's (there's a gravestone) and I knew a friend of the family. Her husband Rev. W. H. Ainley cropped up in my research into the history of Shelf and St. Michael's Church.
Regards,
Ben Stables
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William Harold Ainley (1898-1979) served as Private with the 5th/6th Cameronian (Scottish Rifles), having enlisted in 1916 initially with the Duke of Wellington’s, and was awarded the Military Medal “for bravery and devotion to duty during an attack on the 23rd and 24th October [1918]...[he] did very excellent work when his battalion suffered heavy casualties.” His Battalion’s War Diary states that “the enemy put down a very heavy barrage…which greatly disorganised the Battalion and caused fairly heavy casualties” but they were able to make an advance into enemy territory despite artillery, machine gun fire and poison gas shells. He was demobbed in February 1919, returned to Shelf and married in 1924. He was a Churchwarden at St. Michael’s and on the Parochial Church Council. He was licensed as a lay reader by the Bishop of Bradford on the 28th September 1940. He was made a deacon at Bradford Cathedral on the 21st September 1952. On the same day he was licensed as assistant curate for Queensbury, where he stayed until 1957. He was then ordained as a Priest and served at various parishes. He died at Ilkeston in 1979 and his ashes were returned to Shelf and buried at St. Michael’s.
Regards,
Ben Stables
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Thank you Ben for that info
William Harold Ainley (1898-1979) served as Private with the 5th/6th Cameronian (Scottish Rifles), having enlisted in 1916 initially with the Duke of Wellington’s, and was awarded the Military Medal “for bravery and devotion to duty during an attack on the 23rd and 24th October [1918]...[he] did very excellent work when his battalion suffered heavy casualties.” His Battalion’s War Diary states that “the enemy put down a very heavy barrage…which greatly disorganised the Battalion and caused fairly heavy casualties” but they were able to make an advance into enemy territory despite artillery, machine gun fire and poison gas shells. He was demobbed in February 1919, returned to Shelf and married in 1924. He was a Churchwarden at St. Michael’s and on the Parochial Church Council. He was licensed as a lay reader by the Bishop of Bradford on the 28th September 1940. He was made a deacon at Bradford Cathedral on the 21st September 1952. On the same day he was licensed as assistant curate for Queensbury, where he stayed until 1957. He was then ordained as a Priest and served at various parishes. He died at Ilkeston in 1979 and his ashes were returned to Shelf and buried at St. Michael’s.
Regards,
Ben Stables
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When my father died he was cremated and the ashes buried in his local C of E Cemetery. This was in accordance with the wishes of his partner.
We weren't happy with this because he had been brought up as a Methodist. A year later his partner married someone else and we applied to have my father's ashes removed from the C of E Cemetery and re-interred in his home village Methodist Chapel Cemetery. After a lot of form filling and getting permission from various bodies ! this re-internment was done - headstone included.
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When my father died he was cremated and the ashes buried in his local C of E Cemetery. This was in accordance with the wishes of his partner.
We weren't happy with this because he had been brought up as a Methodist. A year later his partner married someone else and we applied to have my father's ashes removed from the C of E Cemetery and re-interred in his home village Methodist Chapel Cemetery. After a lot of form filling and getting permission from various bodies ! this re-internment was done - headstone included.
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When my father died he was cremated and the ashes buried in his local C of E Cemetery. This was in accordance with the wishes of his partner.
We weren't happy with this because he had been brought up as a Methodist. A year later his partner married someone else and we applied to have my father's ashes removed from the C of E Cemetery and re-interred in his home village Methodist Chapel Cemetery. After a lot of form filling and getting permission from various bodies ! this re-internment was done - headstone included.
You were lucky. Our local churchyards don’t allow you to bury ashes in any kind of container, they have to be tipped into the soil.
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I've got a photo of a family grave in Ireland with a cousin's name on it - lots of people have assumed that she was buried there but she was cremated in England and her ashes returned to Ireland.
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Our local graveyards (church ones) have a section set aside for cremation burials, but not with headstones, only a small stone set in the ground.
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When my gran died, we found scribbled notes with conflicting instructions about her funeral wishes. She named the funeral directors - her late husband had worked for them as a taxi driver - but also wanted my dad to take her on her last ride.
The funeral director came up with a solution. They would take the coffin to the crematorium, and my dad could take the ashes to be interred at her local church.
In a drawer, we found the large brass-covered cigarette box containing the ashes of her late husband (that's him on the left). It was locked. My mum knew the locksmith who had maintained all the locks at the large site where she worked, but had retired many years before, and gave him a ring to ask whether he could help.
"Was it a State Express 555 cigarette box?" It was. "I put that lock on."
So 81-year-old Johnny opened the lock that he had installed 55 years earlier.
The ashes were joined together and my dad did drive her on her final journey, to be buried by the church wall.