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Title: Symptoms Question
Post by: genjen on Thursday 26 March 20 14:14 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I am one of those weird people who has completely lost all sense of taste and smell but, apart from being very tired for a day or two, have had no other symptoms.
My GP has advised me to treat this as if I have C19 and to isolate myself, which I have been doing anyway because of my chronic cough and asthma.
But, being a very mild case, if I do indeed have it, there is no testing available so I might never know.
I do know that a fairly high percentage of those who have been tested have also had this anosmia and hypogeusia and that it is being taken seriously by medical scientists but I don't know anyone else who has had it so am asking here if anyone has experienced this. If you have, how long did it last - has it fully recovered?
A large element of me remains sceptical about it being C-19 related but another part hopes that it is, so that I can say, in a week or two, that I am safe to do my own shopping etc and won't infect anyone else.

For what it's worth, it is quite horrible and while not even remotely comparable with the more serious symptoms, it is having quite an impact on my life.

Cheers,

Jen :)
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 28 March 20 19:37 GMT (UK)
Jen, we have been an odd household with symptoms.

Two teens and my husband and I. Son has only felt a little unwell for a day. My daughter has had a high fever and headache, followed by fatigue for days. Me, nearly a fever, odds pains and then a really sore stomach and nausea for a few days.

I have been terrified for my husband as he has two bouts of pneumonia and swine flu in 2009! No idea why he has had this, all in his early 40s. He started 10 days ago and has suffered the following symptoms:

High Fever
Headache
Sharp pain in kidneys
Sharp pain in eyes
Chills and aches everywhere
Exhaustion and
No sense of taste or smell

The last one started 4 days ago, so for him, on day 6 since he started with fevers etc. He is still suffering from this.

However, with many firgers crossed, no cough or difficulty in breathing at any time.

I certainly think we have all had it here. However, as you mention, without testing for it you cannot confirm you have. Hopefully in the weeks to come, testing will become wider ranging once they have got the front line people tested and the whole testing system under control. With your asthama and cough, it is hard for you to know what is best without confirmation. Erring on caution is what you seem to doing which is a good plan.

Monica  :)

Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 28 March 20 19:41 GMT (UK)
Sorry to hear that Monica, hubby certainly sounds as if he is having a torrid time.
Fingers crossed you all come thru this soon.

Take Care
Stay Safe
Sandra
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: genjen on Saturday 28 March 20 20:47 GMT (UK)
Gosh Monica, that is a real mixed bag of symptoms. I really hope your husband starts to feel better and that the whole family comes through it soon.

I am now well over a week in with the no smell or taste thing, though it is beginning to change - I can smell cumin powder, toothpaste has a "fresh" flavour and oranges have a little bit of taste! This is a distinct improvement. ;D

Wine is totally vile!

We will be allowed out of quarantine soon, which is just as well as supplies are running low. My daughter will shop for us if I ask but I really don't want to put her at any more risk than necessary.

 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 28 March 20 20:54 GMT (UK)
You will treasure the fresh air when you manage to get out again, Jen  :)

Stay safe too, Sandra  :-*

Monica
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: genjen on Saturday 28 March 20 21:01 GMT (UK)
You will treasure the fresh air when you manage to get out again, Jen  :)

Monica

I have a whole unusable Lake District outside my door! It's driving me insane!
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: MrsS2012 on Sunday 29 March 20 00:04 GMT (UK)
I've had a dry cough for the last couple of days and have felt a bit sick, no temperature. We are all isolating anyway just to be safe, especially as I work in healthcare. My husband started coughing a bit today and our friend who lives with us has been coughing since yesterday. No idea if it's the virus or not but don't want to take any chances!
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: Albufera32 on Sunday 29 March 20 00:15 GMT (UK)
I posted on another thread that since a lack of sense of smell or taste was not listed on other the Govt sites or the BBC, I would be extremely sceptical of it, but I see that it is now listed on the BBC on their page giving symptoms. To be more exact it says that doctors in the UK have been recording patients reporting a lack of sense of smell and that there is also "apocryphal" evidence of a lack of sene of taste as well. (Of course much of our sense of taste is related to our sense of smell anyway.)

One cheerful thing is from what I have seen it seems to be a symptom typically seen in the latter stages of the illness during recovery.
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 29 March 20 00:32 GMT (UK)
Do any of you who suspect they may have this virus have any idea where you might have picked it up?

Here, the majority of our cases so far can be traced back to people arriving from abroad.

Are you able to get tested to confirm? Especially Monica’s family who seem to be quite ill.

Here, there is a process to follow and unless you are ill after recently returning from abroad, or you have come into contact with someone with the virus, then they will not test you.

I hope you all make a speedy recovery.

Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: genjen on Sunday 29 March 20 11:11 BST (UK)
I posted on another thread that since a lack of sense of smell or taste was not listed on other the Govt sites or the BBC, I would be extremely sceptical of it, but I see that it is now listed on the BBC on their page giving symptoms. To be more exact it says that doctors in the UK have been recording patients reporting a lack of sense of smell and that there is also "apocryphal" evidence of a lack of sene of taste as well. (Of course much of our sense of taste is related to our sense of smell anyway.)

One cheerful thing is from what I have seen it seems to be a symptom typically seen in the latter stages of the illness during recovery.


Since I posted the question in the other thread, this set of symptoms has been given much more credence by medical scientists and certainly my GP was clear that it ought to be taken seriously. I am still extremely sceptical about having had the virus but have done as advised and isolated myself for the allotted  period of time. I still have very little in the way of a sense of smell or taste.

Do any of you who suspect they may have this virus have any idea where you might have picked it up?

If I have indeed had it, I picked it up from people I meet in a weekly singing group. Several of them have had it quite badly and I was in direct contact with them the day before the first one of them became ill.
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 29 March 20 11:25 BST (UK)
Jen, I am in Australia and I believe that here they are now considering lack of taste and smell as likely to be symptom of coronavirus. My daughter has a friend currently living in London who appears to have the virus and her housemate has the same symptoms as you.

Tests are difficult to "qualify" for and it is a shame that not everyone displaying symptoms is able to get one. The logistics of having to test so many are mind boggling though I imagine it would go some way to answering questions and putting your mind at rest.  :-\

I hope you continue to improve.

Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: josey on Sunday 29 March 20 11:37 BST (UK)
Jen & Monica & family, so sorry to hear of your illnesses & hope you all recover at home soon.

It is a nonsense that widespread testing, which could have prevented spread of the Covid-19 [as it did in the Italian village Vo Euganeo] was not taken up [as far as supplies could muster] after it was advised by the WHO.

Who knows how long it will be before antibody tests show if you have had it? Aand as length of immunity after exposure is not yet known [we never get immune to the common cold, another coronavirus] - by the time you get an antibody test the immunity may have dispersed.

Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: Girl Guide on Sunday 29 March 20 12:00 BST (UK)
This is what is so difficult about this virus.  Symptoms can range from being so mild you don't even notice that you have it, right up to those who have to be hospitalised.

So far I haven't noticed any symptoms that would suggest I have it.  As I have underlying health issues I need to be very careful about going out the door.  I did nip up the road to get my prescription but I told the assistant to put the medication on the counter and move away, thereby keeping the required distance away.

My good wishes to those of you who currently have it and I hope that you recover soon.  I also hope that you only have a mild version.
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: Lisajb on Sunday 29 March 20 12:27 BST (UK)
I have - something, but not sure what! Slightly runny nose, occasional cough, occasional achy neck. A bit heady and throaty. Sometimes I feel worse
 in the evenings, other days, I feel fine.

I'm a T1 diabetic so it's something of a concern for me.
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: Finley 1 on Sunday 29 March 20 12:39 BST (UK)
I am mardy :)  with a sore throat for days now... I think  I am looking for symptoms....   I havent been out since my 2nd trip to Hospital in January   well only once for a quick trip to the garden centre which didnt go well...    I have 'Ischemic colitis' otherwise known as a 'stroke of the Colon' .. which is hell to deal with.. so if I do get full blown symptoms.. I wont bother... ee by gum what a pickle absolutely


I wish you ALL the best all of you xxxxxx  please take care xxxxx

Xinia  (blow Finley out of the water :)  ha ha )

Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: Albufera32 on Sunday 29 March 20 13:56 BST (UK)
I have - something, but not sure what! Slightly runny nose, occasional cough, occasional achy neck. A bit heady and throaty. Sometimes I feel worse
 in the evenings, other days, I feel fine.

I'm a T1 diabetic so it's something of a concern for me.


As I understand it, a runny nose is one of the symptoms NOT reported in patients with covid 19. So long as you do not have a fever, I do not think you need to be very concerned, or at least no more than any of us.
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: MrsS2012 on Sunday 29 March 20 14:12 BST (UK)
Just had a call from a doctor friend who told me that a friend of his.. Also a doctor.. Has died from covid-19. My friend thinks he may have it as he was in contact with the guy days before he became unwell. My friend has also been unwell for the last couple of weeks and is still in isolation.. He has just been tested today.
I was in contact with my friend the day before he isolated so it's a bit concerning but then again I've only had symptoms for the last couple of days.. And it's only today and yesterday that I can say that I feel unwell.
More worried about my family then myself tbh
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: Roobarb on Sunday 29 March 20 14:47 BST (UK)
I'm very sorry that some of you are ill or have family and friends who are, and hope everyone is soon well again. I do take heart from the fact that you're posting on here, that looks like a good sign.  :)

I'm finding this thread very interesting generally. I have read on the BBC news app about the loss of taste and smell people have experienced and as others have said, it does seem to be quite prevalent and there is mounting speculation that it may be one of the symptoms.

One of the problems with this virus is that it's arrived here at the time when people get flu, colds and all sorts of other common ailments that make us suspicious as to whether we've got it. As an asthmatic I often have a slight cough, usually not continuous but occasionally it is. I haven't been near anyone, when I take my walk on the nearby field I stay more than the required distance from anyone else but would be afraid to have even a little cough or clearing the throat in case they think I'm infectious!
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: genjen on Sunday 29 March 20 14:54 BST (UK)


 As an asthmatic I often have a slight cough, usually not continuous but occasionally it is. I haven't been near anyone, when I take my walk on the nearby field I stay more than the required distance from anyone else but would be afraid to have even a little cough or clearing the throat in case they think I'm infectious!

My asthma also presents as a cough - spasmodic, eye-watering, gasping for breath and generally very disturbing for anyone who happens to be spectating when an attack kicks in! I am so accustomed to it that I shrug it off with an "oh, that's just my cough, I'm not infectious" sort of an explanation. I think I'd have a problem with that if it happened in public at the moment!! ;D
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: MrsS2012 on Sunday 29 March 20 16:31 BST (UK)
That's the problem.. The symptoms are so vague. At least testing is being rolled out for nhs staff now so hopefully I'll be in line to get tested myself. The antibody test will be better as it will tell you if you have had the virus at any point. That's the one I'll be most keen to have.
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: Roobarb on Sunday 29 March 20 17:02 BST (UK)


 As an asthmatic I often have a slight cough, usually not continuous but occasionally it is. I haven't been near anyone, when I take my walk on the nearby field I stay more than the required distance from anyone else but would be afraid to have even a little cough or clearing the throat in case they think I'm infectious!

My asthma also presents as a cough - spasmodic, eye-watering, gasping for breath and generally very disturbing for anyone who happens to be spectating when an attack kicks in! I am so accustomed to it that I shrug it off with an "oh, that's just my cough, I'm not infectious" sort of an explanation. I think I'd have a problem with that if it happened in public at the moment!! ;D

Poor you Jen, I do sympathise, mine gets like that if I catch a cold, it's absolutely awful.

At the start of this when the virus had hardly reached this area I was in my local convenience store and felt a small cough coming on so I turned away and coughed into a tissue. The assistant then did the same and when she turned back she said 'Tickly cough'. I just said that mine was the same, I didn't want to go into detail. I haven't been to any shops for a couple of weeks now but I have friends who have said they hardly dare cough as everyone glares at them!

Get well soon  :)

MrsS - hope you get your test soon  :)
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 29 March 20 18:21 BST (UK)
So many people are confused and worried wondering if what they are feeling is connected to Covid-19 or not. For many, symptoms are not serious enough to make a diagnosis clear. I have been scrambling around the net searching for further details on reported symptoms given the range my husband is experiencing.

The most helpful for me, in terms of key summary of points I found in the Sun.

See www.thesun.co.uk/news/10890814/coronavirus-symptoms-day-by-day-sore-throat-cough-fever/

On a connected link www.thesun.co.uk/news/11240984/4-mild-symptoms-coronavirus-not-ignore/ they also discuss four other minor symptoms. These include:

Stomach ache
Eye infections and loss of taste/smell
Brain fog
Fatigue

Main chart below. Data sourced from China up to 22 Feb 2020:
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: MrsS2012 on Sunday 29 March 20 20:38 BST (UK)
The only symptoms I've had is a dry cough and on and off nausea. My husband and friend have had similar symptoms plus diarrhoea. Have felt a bit hot and feverish at times but temperature is normal.
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: pharmaT on Sunday 29 March 20 22:17 BST (UK)
Personally I have seen what is definitely community spread i.e. people who are housebound contracting it even though none of their visitors have been abroad.

I have seen people (confirmed positive) who have all the symptoms, come with cough and SOB but no temp, just the nausea and vomiting, temp and aches but no respiritory symptoms.
Title: Re: Symptoms Question
Post by: MrsS2012 on Monday 30 March 20 12:58 BST (UK)
I suppose like everything it affects everyone differently. I don't feel right but I feel like I'm not ill enough for it to be coronavirus.. But then there are some who are being confirmed as positive who have no symptoms at all!