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Title: Funerals, COMPLETED WITH THANKS
Post by: louisa maud on Sunday 05 April 20 16:00 BST (UK)
At the moment the bereaved will have difficulty in showing their respects to their loved ones ,  apparently only very few can  attend a funeral, a friend of  an  ex colleague stood at the roadside with the appropriate footage between them when the hearse passed by, I thought it a very nice gesture,

I have had 2  family deaths within the last week,  whether we will be able to attend the funerals  I do not know as yet, probable not, neither  death was from Corona virus but nevertheless very sad

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: FUNERALS
Post by: Crumblie on Sunday 05 April 20 16:05 BST (UK)
Bradford Council announced the other day that any cremation will be funerals with no mourners and no service for the time being.
Title: Re: FUNERALS
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Sunday 05 April 20 16:15 BST (UK)
There's an old tradition of "standing out" by the roadside, silently as a mark of respect when a funeral of someone you respect goes by. Perhaps it should be revived? - But then the hearses would end up making some very devious routes.
Title: Re: Funerals
Post by: Crumblie on Sunday 05 April 20 16:19 BST (UK)
I can remember a time when people would pay their respects as a cortage drove past even if they did not know them but you rarely see that nowadays. People used to close their curtains when there had been a death in family but I never understood that even though we did it for my grandfather and mymother.
Title: Re: Funerals
Post by: louisa maud on Sunday 05 April 20 16:24 BST (UK)
I remember people would stand outside their house or line a route, my grandad's funeral had colleagues lining the route, both he  and his father had fantastic rightups in the local paper, I am very proud of them

A neighbour died opposite me recently, had lived in the street for 50 plus years, the only people out   was my husband and I, we were going to follow, but only 1 other person, I found that very sad, gone are the days when curtains were drawn

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Funerals
Post by: suey on Sunday 05 April 20 17:24 BST (UK)
I can remember a time when people would pay their respects as a cortage drove past even if they did not know them but you rarely see that nowadays. People used to close their curtains when there had been a death in family but I never understood that even though we did it for my grandfather and mymother.

I always thought that closing the curtains was actually a way to tell friends and neighbours that someone had died.  This is an old custom, no phones, no internet in those days. You were more likely to know all your neighbours back then as well.
Someone will correct me if I’m wrong.

I read yesterday of two young women, both in their 30’s who have died leaving husbands and children. Awful to think their families won’t be able to say a proper goodbye . 
Title: Re: Funerals
Post by: groom on Sunday 05 April 20 17:39 BST (UK)
Apparently Wales has updated the advice about funerals

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Update from Welsh Government Minister, Eluned Morgan:


The new regulations also clarify the arrangements for funerals and crematoriums – people can attend funerals if they are the person who has organised the funeral, if they have been invited to attend or are the carer of a person who is attending a funeral.

There will be a limit to the number of people who can attend, depending on how many people the venue can accommodate, taking into account the 2m rule.

Everyone attending a funeral should take all reasonable measures to stay 2m away from someone they don’t live with or care for and those responsible for running the crematorium, place of worship or cemetery should make arrangements to maintain the 2m rule.

The guidance on funerals clarifies that cemeteries can remain open but social distancing must be taken into account, as well as the need to take all reasonable measures to maintain the 2m rule at burials.
Title: Re: Funerals
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 05 April 20 18:59 BST (UK)
I can remember a time when people would pay their respects as a cortage drove past even if they did not know them but you rarely see that nowadays. People used to close their curtains when there had been a death in family but I never understood that even though we did it for my grandfather and mymother.

I wonder if closing the curtains had anything to do with the corpse being in the front parlour.
I know a custom of following a hearse for 3 paces even if you didn't know the deceased. There is an undertaker opposite the bus stop on the main road where I wait for a bus into town.
Title: Re: FUNERALS
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 05 April 20 19:12 BST (UK)
Bradford Council announced the other day that any cremation will be funerals with no mourners and no service for the time being.

Known as Direct Cremation Service.
Number of mourners restricted to 10 for cremation and burial services which had already been booked.
Says policy is in line with other councils e.g. Leeds.
Title: Re: Funerals
Post by: Guy Etchells on Sunday 05 April 20 19:55 BST (UK)
At the moment the bereaved will have difficulty in showing their respects to their loved ones ,  apparently only very few can  attend a funeral, a friend of  an  ex colleague stood at the roadside with the appropriate footage between them when the hearse passed by, I thought it a very nice gesture,

I have had 2  family deaths within the last week,  whether we will be able to attend the funerals  I do not know as yet, probable not, neither  death was from Corona virus but nevertheless very sad

Louisa Maud


The legalities are you may

"(g)to attend a funeral of—

(i)a member of the person’s household,

(ii)a close family member, or

(iii)if no-one within sub-paragraphs (i) or (ii) are attending, a friend;"

Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Funerals
Post by: louisa maud on Sunday 05 April 20 20:00 BST (UK)
I hope they have the committal at least

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Funerals, COMPLETED WITH THANKS
Post by: mare on Monday 06 April 20 13:58 BST (UK)
You've marked thread complete Louisa Maud and we have discussed subject on another TOT topic recently, I just wanted to extend condolences again in you bereavement of another family member, I've just read here that there is a 2nd one ( hug )

Going by the notices in our paper I check regularly on line, many are choosing very private funerals and advising cremations have already taken place or similar and some advise a service will take place at a later date. Funeral directors offer to video stream as well, we've used that option in the past when family distanced by locality and unable to attend. There is some clarification of what is allowed since lockdown in our NZ Covid 19 information on line in relation to ethic and religious needs. Family members from one isolation bubble are permitted to a viewing if deceased was in the same bubble and may be split into 2 sessions if space doesn't allow personal distancing, also one bubble group can attend funeral if travel method doesn't include a driver not in group. A bit complicated but pretty much as Guy has expressed in the legalities previous post.

 At a time of grief must be such a difficult ask for families wanting to pay respect and support each other physically as well as emotionally, so very sad.

Kind regards, mare
Title: Re: Funerals, COMPLETED WITH THANKS
Post by: louisa maud on Monday 06 April 20 14:03 BST (UK)
Thank you Mare, I am sure my brother in law won't have a funeral as such, it most likely would have been a humanist service, what I would like to do at the time of the funeral is to perhaps go somewhere quite with my husband and just think, we have some lovely memories of him, hopefully there will be a get together later to celebrate his life of 81 years
My cousin  think will have some sort of service later for his wife, she would have had a full Roman Catholic Mass.

Louisa Maud