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Title: Help With Surname
Post by: ..claire.. on Tuesday 07 April 20 23:15 BST (UK)
Hi

Can anyone give me an idea as to what Margarett's surname might be, it's completely stumped me.

Thankyou in advance

claire
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: Rena on Wednesday 08 April 20 00:00 BST (UK)
I see:-

M. Croydon

I'm probably wrong with the start of the next word. 

I see "St"
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: Ian Nelson on Wednesday 08 April 20 00:02 BST (UK)
I thought I could see St but there is no Capital to follow ... still guessing
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 08 April 20 00:13 BST (UK)
Str?
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 April 20 00:15 BST (UK)


Any other instances of Surname in whatever you are looking at?



Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: ..claire.. on Wednesday 08 April 20 00:17 BST (UK)
Thankyou for the suggestions so far

I had the initial letter of the surname as an 'S' too. I've looked at other words etc. in the Will and thought that the name could have been Sturtote - but I've never heard of that as a surname. She was a widow at the time the Will was written but her maiden surname (Litchelade) hasn't helped me find a marriage for her either. The Will was dated 1622.

Thankyou

A couple of examples of letters in the Will which may point to the Sturtote name being correct :-\
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: ..claire.. on Wednesday 08 April 20 00:19 BST (UK)
Hi

There are no other mentions of Margarett in the Will that I can see, and I can read most of it but this eludes me completely.

The Will is part of Ancestry's PCC Collection - Anne Comyns 12 August 1622

Thank you
Claire
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: Ian Nelson on Wednesday 08 April 20 00:34 BST (UK)
more thoughts on it ... could it be Margarett St.    short for Stuart or whatever,  then in tote, meaning that's all, in total ?
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: ..claire.. on Wednesday 08 April 20 00:37 BST (UK)

Reading the Will I think it is a surname - it reads 'Margarett S ? ? ? wydowe'

But I suppose it could be short for something. But what ?  ;D
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: Ian Nelson on Wednesday 08 April 20 00:39 BST (UK)
Could you copy more of the text around Margarett's name so we might guess from the context? 
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: ..claire.. on Wednesday 08 April 20 00:46 BST (UK)
Here we go

Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: Ian Nelson on Wednesday 08 April 20 00:58 BST (UK)
to my sister Margarett   ... she is his sister ?  What's his name ?
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: ..claire.. on Wednesday 08 April 20 01:05 BST (UK)
The Will is of Anne Comyns 1622

Their maiden surnames were Litchelade and they were born in London (Margarett) and Surrey (Anne/Agnes )

Devil to try and trace the family at all, very few Litchelade records available.
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: Rena on Wednesday 08 April 20 14:51 BST (UK)
Could it be Stratoth ?

Usually when an arcive publishes the fact that they have a Last Will & Testament, all the names mentioned are in the index list pertaining to the item - there must be another surname against the published index.

After surfing I now find this Roman & Greek passage which contains the same word:


"battle against Seleucus in his old age had lately married Stratothe Celtiberians. ...


and this modern phrase:

9 Nov 2015 - During the attack on Fort Washington, Margaret Corbin stood alongside ... the KC-135R Stratothe United States Air Force tanker.
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: ..claire.. on Wednesday 08 April 20 15:16 BST (UK)
Hi Rena and all that answered

After trying various ways of spelling STRATOTHE in Boyds Inhabitants of London I think I may have found the answer

An Arthur STARTUSS appears with his wife Margaret LIXLADE - bit different than the spelling I had for her surname  - Lichelade, but I’m sure it’s them.

So thank you so much 😊
Claire
Title: Re: Help With Surname
Post by: Rena on Wednesday 08 April 20 15:27 BST (UK)
Hi Rena and all that answered

After trying various ways of spelling STRATOTHE in Boyds Inhabitants of London I think I may have found the answer

An Arthur STARTUSS appears with his wife Margaret LIXLADE - bit different than the spelling I had for her surname  - Lichelade, but I’m sure it’s them.

So thank you so much 😊
Claire

So pleased for you that your problem is solved.

I actually found your Litchelade (Not lichelade) surname yesterday in a website, which seemed to be a list of names in Wills.

I had a look at the second name in your image today, but couldn't find the darned website again to look for a satisfactory equivalent.