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Title: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Per01 on Wednesday 08 April 20 18:53 BST (UK)
I would love to find out about Johanna Cheasty, I have found her grave with her three youngest sons but I have been unable to discover anything else about her. I have looked on the 1901 and 1911 census to no avail. I understand from sources her maiden name was Powers and her first husband was called Michael Whelan. Any information on Michael would also be amazing as I have yet to find any evidence of him. Thank you in advance for any assistance.
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 08 April 20 21:32 BST (UK)
What is the information from the grave?  Year of birth ...death?  Names of sons?  Years of their birth ..death?
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 08 April 20 23:31 BST (UK)
I can see five deaths of adult Johanna (and variations) Cheasty in Co Waterford. 4 in Waterford Reg district and one in Kilmacthomas.

I can see a Johanna Whelan marriage to a John Cheasty but it gives her as a spinster.

There is a Thomas Cheasty and Mary Power having children in Waterford from 1901 and possibly earlier and a Nicholas Cheasty and Cathering Power from 1919, I don't see a Johanna, these are all fairly recent, was your Johanna before Civil registrations began? You can see how it's impossible to help you without more information particularly some idea of dates.
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 April 20 23:55 BST (UK)


So you're looking for Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan and you understand from sources her maiden name was Powers ?? 

Doesn't make any sense!


Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 09 April 20 00:09 BST (UK)
Must admit I hadn't noticed the address, there is a death of Johanna (Annie) Cheasty, Knockeen, buried next to Dunhill church in 1961. No family details given.

Seems to be quite a few Cheastys in Dunhill.


Found her death cert she was single.
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Per01 on Thursday 09 April 20 01:30 BST (UK)
Thank you for the responses. The information on the headstone is Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan died 7th March 1960 aged 83 years. Their sons Edward Cheasty died 6th July 1995 aged 74 years, Geoffrey Cheasty died 7th May 2002 aged 83 years and Patrick Cheasty died 15th November 2004 aged 87. Her husband and their father Richard Cheasty who died on December 18th 1954 is also with them.

Johanna was married before to a Michael Whelan who died, their marriage produced two sons. One of them is a relation, Martin Whelan born in November 1904, I have been unable to find his birth certificate. Confirmation of Powers as Johanna's maiden name came from a reliable family source, it is also believed they lived in a town called Kill.

I would really appreciate any guidance or information on how to find the birth date of Johanna or anything at all on Michael Whelan. Thank you again for your interest.
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: gortonboy on Thursday 09 April 20 02:05 BST (UK)
Johanna CHEASTY
Date of Death   1960
Group Registration ID   1934657
SR District/Reg Area   Kilmacthomas
Deceased Age at Death   83

Widow of a farmer.

Informant Geoffrey Cheasty
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: gortonboy on Thursday 09 April 20 02:14 BST (UK)
The birth of a Geoffrey CHEASTY in 1919 in ballyleen. Gives the parents as Richard CHEASTY and Annie CHEASTY was whelan.
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: gortonboy on Thursday 09 April 20 02:22 BST (UK)
RIchard CHEASTY
Date of Death   1955
Group Registration ID   2496752
SR District/Reg Area   Waterford
Deceased Age at Death   80
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: gortonboy on Thursday 09 April 20 02:27 BST (UK)
The marriage in 1918 at ballyleen

Richard CHEASTY farmer. Full age. Farmer.... Father Geoffrey.

Johanna power full age Widow.  Father Patrick Phelan.

Looks like Phelan to me.
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: gortonboy on Thursday 09 April 20 02:49 BST (UK)
Now there is a marriage of a Johanna Whelan to an Edmond power in 1918. But this is after the marriage to the CHEASTY.

And father is edmond Whelan.
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: gortonboy on Thursday 09 April 20 02:56 BST (UK)
Just keep this birth in mind

JOHANNA WHELAN
Date of Birth   1878
Group Registration ID   8441285
SR District/Reg Area   Kilmacthomas
Sex   N/R
Mother's Birth Surname   N/R

Father Patrick.
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: gortonboy on Thursday 09 April 20 03:00 BST (UK)
   worth a look.

THOMAS POWER
Party 2 Name   JOHANNA WHELAN
Date of Event   22 September 1910
Group Registration ID   2034658
SR District/Reg Area   Carrick on Suir

Father Patrick whelan.
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 09 April 20 07:43 BST (UK)
The birth of a Geoffrey CHEASTY in 1919 in ballyleen. Gives the parents as Richard CHEASTY and Annie CHEASTY was whelan.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01246/1517817.pdf

The marriage in 1918 at ballyleen

Richard CHEASTY farmer. Full age. Farmer.... Father Geoffrey.

Johanna power full age Widow.  Father Patrick Phelan.

Looks like Phelan to me.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09713/5524306.pdf
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 09 April 20 07:49 BST (UK)
This look like Richard Cheasty living with his brother in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Dunhill/Ballyrobin/665254/
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 09 April 20 09:55 BST (UK)
Maybe we can find something by going the long way around..
There is death in Ballylee of a Johanna Phelan in 1954. Only 37
Relatives
Mr and Mrs Joseph Phelan parents
brothers and sister named
Mrs R. Cheasty aunt, Patrick and Jeffrey Cheasty cousins.

So looks like Johanna had a brother Joseph.

Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 09 April 20 11:31 BST (UK)
I think this is Joseph's marriage to Bridget Ronayne in 1916
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1916/09773/5547329.pdf
and Johanna Phelan's birth 1917 Mother as Ronan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01318/1544717.pdf

There is also a daughter Bridget born 1918, there was a sister Bridget on Johanna's death notice
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 09 April 20 12:11 BST (UK)
A possible
There is a birth of a Johanna Whelan to a Patrick Whelan and Johanna Coffey in Kilmacthomas Reg in 1878
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02939/2076956.pdf
And a Joseph Whelan in 1887 parents with same names in Waterford Reg
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02546/1942415.pdf

Possibly this family
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Newcastle/Ardeenloun_East/1759521/
Daughter Julia's birth, mother is Coffey.
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Wheelie on Saturday 13 February 21 13:22 GMT (UK)
Hi, I don't know if you are still researching this but I am intrigued as this is my family.  Please let me know if you would like to make contact.

Claire
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: TomWhelan3 on Monday 13 June 22 16:56 BST (UK)
I am sure this is my Great grandmother x2, she married a Michael Whelan and had 3 boys (2 of which that moved to Wales and families still there to this day) then Johanna re-married Richard cheasty and had 3 more sons
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Wheelie on Monday 18 July 22 17:15 BST (UK)
Hi Tom, yes it is. I'm intrigued to know who started the thread as they could be linked to our family.
Claire
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 18 July 22 18:00 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat,TW3  :)

I am sure this is my Great grandmother x2, she married a Michael Whelan and had 3 boys (2 of which that moved to Wales and families still there to this day) then Johanna re-married Richard cheasty and had 3 more sons

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Richard CHEASTY farmer. Full age. Farmer.... Father Geoffrey.
Johanna power full age Widow.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09713/5524306.pdf

Geoffrey Cheasty born 9 April 1919 at Ballyleen.   MMN Whelan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01246/1517817.pdf

Edward Cheasty born 4 June 1921 - Ballyleen.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1921/01173/1489229.pdf

M. C. ? Apr-Jun 1923
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F1S3-SYD


KG

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Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 19 July 22 09:39 BST (UK)

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....Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan died 7th March 1960 aged 83 years.

Her husband and their father Richard Cheasty who died on December 18th 1954....

Links-

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1960/04332/4119705.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1955/04434/4158919.pdf

Ballyleen near Kill in Co Waterford.
https://www.townlands.ie/waterford/middlethird/dunhill/dunhill/ballyleen/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5650795#map=14/52.1786/-7.3187



Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Wheelie on Saturday 30 July 22 13:21 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for those! I have tried sending a pm but no luck yet. Fingers crossed!

Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 30 July 22 13:35 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for those! I have tried sending a pm but no luck yet. Fingers crossed!

TomWhelan3 will need to make at least one more post before being able to receive a PM.

See https://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php


Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Wheelie on Thursday 04 August 22 20:19 BST (UK)
Thanks. I meant I've sent a message to the OP.
Title: Re: Johanna Cheasty nee Whelan, Dunhill Ballyleen
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 05 August 22 07:15 BST (UK)
Thanks. I meant I've sent a message to the OP.

Good Luck!  :D

The OP hasn't been online here since May 2020.