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Title: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Thursday 09 April 20 21:41 BST (UK)
Hello!

I was wondering if someone could help me? (first time I have researched Irish genealogy and I'm lost!) I am looking for a marriage record for a Mary Beattie / Beatty and a man named Gaffney (sorry I don't know his first name). They had 2 sons, one in 1935 and the other in 1936 both in Cavan. The only other fact I know is Mary was nicknamed Molly.

Any help would be great!

Thanks in advance x
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 21:56 BST (UK)


Marriage results for Mary Beattie from 1920 to 1935 anywhere

LINK    http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pb0/

not there...
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 21:59 BST (UK)


Marriage results for any Beattie from 1930 to 1935 anywhere



 not there
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Thursday 09 April 20 22:06 BST (UK)


Marriage results for any Beattie from 1930 to 1935 anywhere



 not there

Oh no... mind you they don't have the 2 sons listed on that site either? I found them on FindMyPast & Anc.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 22:09 BST (UK)

I wouldn't be allowed show you the Search criteria used but you can see it for yourself via Link posted

as you see I just put Name and Year Range in and ticked Marriage box. then Searched.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line Births stop 1919

For you to look at Marriages posted you will need to sovle security captcha and can use initials to sigb in...free and safe site!

Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 22:11 BST (UK)


excuse typos..typing in dark   ;D
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 22:16 BST (UK)


Marriage results for any Beattie from 1930 to 1935 anywhere



 not there

Oh no... mind you they don't have the 2 sons listed on that site either? I found them on FindMyPast & Anc.

Do they mention any place in Cavan?

Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Thursday 09 April 20 22:24 BST (UK)
No just Cavan, Ireland  ???
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Thursday 09 April 20 22:26 BST (UK)
can't see any marriage matching so I guess I'm gonna have to look through all the male Gaffney's who married a Mary or Molly and see if she was perhaps a widow?
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 09 April 20 22:29 BST (UK)
The two sons are on FamilySearch both with a reg district of Cavan, their mother could have come from a different reg district and marriages usually happen in the brides parish.

Marriages on Irish Genealogy are usually indexed with a widow's maiden name.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Thursday 09 April 20 22:32 BST (UK)
The two sons are on FamilySearch both with a reg district of Cavan, their mother could have come from a different reg district and marriages usually happen in the brides parish.

Marriages on Irish Genealogy are usually indexed with a widow's maiden name.

Bugger lol
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Thursday 09 April 20 22:33 BST (UK)
So far only one marriage for a beatty and a Gaffney but in 1897.. they would have been too old for 1935!  ::)
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 22:33 BST (UK)

Do you know the Reg Districts for Co Cavan?

If not... go to https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php  and select Co Cavan using first dropdown box.

8 Districts!

So just put Gaffney in... year range and tick Marriage box and search

you'll see a list on left in results and then check those in Cavan districts

Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 22:34 BST (UK)
The two sons are on FamilySearch both with a reg district of Cavan, their mother could have come from a different reg district and marriages usually happen in the brides parish.

Marriages on Irish Genealogy are usually indexed with a widow's maiden name.

Bugger lol

 ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 22:40 BST (UK)


Marriage results for any Gaffney from 1927 to 1935 ANYWHERE

link
   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pb0/

So even if she came from Co Kerry it wouldn't matter!   ;D
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Thursday 09 April 20 22:41 BST (UK)
Sorry just realised that there is a town named Cavan and a County Cavan!  ??? ::)  sorry my knowledge of Ireland is horrific! pretty sure the sons were born in the town of Cavan.. i will double-check with one of the son's daughter now.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 22:45 BST (UK)
Sorry just realised that there is a town named Cavan and a County Cavan!  ??? ::)  sorry my knowledge of Ireland is horrific! pretty sure the sons were born in the town of Cavan.. i will double-check with one of the son's daughter now.

Yes... but you can get the other districts in Cavan from my post about them
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 22:48 BST (UK)
Bailieborough Bawnboy Cavan Cootehill Enniskillen Granard Kells and Oldcastle


Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 22:49 BST (UK)


So like I said,   just put Gaffney in... year range and tick Marriage box and search

you'll see a list on left in results and then check those in Cavan districts
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 22:51 BST (UK)


Or do 8 individual searches  put each District in District box then searching

Handier the first way I posted
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Thursday 09 April 20 22:57 BST (UK)

Do you know the Reg Districts for Co Cavan?

If not... go to https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php  and select Co Cavan using first dropdown box.

8 Districts!

So just put Gaffney in... year range and tick Marriage box and search

you'll see a list on left in results and then check those in Cavan districts

Sorry quite possibly being thick here but I selected Cavan on the dropped down menu and it showed me the districts but that's it? The search box on that page are for searching places?
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 09 April 20 23:30 BST (UK)
You use it to find the districts in County Cavan, than you can choose those districts on Irish Genealogy.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Thursday 09 April 20 23:31 BST (UK)
You use it to find the districts in County Cavan, than you can choose those districts on Irish Genealogy.


Oooh I see! I've just been searching all of them!

Although just found Mary's death record which puts her being born 1908 so that's a little help  :)
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 23:38 BST (UK)


Marriage results for any Gaffney from 1927 to 1935 ANYWHERE

Irish Genealogy link
  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pb0/

So even if she came from Co Kerry it wouldn't matter!

Check those in Bailieborough Bawnboy Cavan Cootehill Enniskillen Granard Kells and Oldcastle from results  on Irish Genealogy link


Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 23:44 BST (UK)
You use it to find the districts in County Cavan, than you can choose those districts on Irish Genealogy.


Oooh I see! I've just been searching all of them!

Although just found Mary's death record which puts her being born 1908 so that's a little help  :)

So just put her name in, tick Birth, 1908 to 1908 and search... then Check those in Bailieborough Bawnboy Cavan Cootehill Enniskillen Granard Kells and Oldcastle from results  on Irish Genealogy
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 23:47 BST (UK)


Only 1 Mary of correct age on Census 1911

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Lissanover/Lissanover/318100/
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 09 April 20 23:51 BST (UK)
There is a Mary Lilian, her father William was a merchant died shortly after she was born, mother remarried. Church of Ireland.

Do you know if Mary was COI or RC?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Cavan_Urban/Main_Street/339783/
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 April 20 23:58 BST (UK)


Only 1 Mary of correct age on Census 1911

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Lissanover/Lissanover/318100/

IF CORRECT


LINK TO ALL Birth, Marriage and Death results for Beattie of Bawnboy REG DISTRICT

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pb3/

IF INCORRECT.... then ignore any for there!!    ;D
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Thursday 09 April 20 23:58 BST (UK)
I did see a birth for a Mary Beattie in Cavan 1907 which could fit but I am now worried that she may have not been from there at all and perhaps moved there after getting married  ???  Apparently, they split up when the children were young and she moved to Harrow in Middlesex. He later married so I am now going to search newspaper records in hope of a divorce notice... unless he was a bigamist lol
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Friday 10 April 20 00:03 BST (UK)
I did see a birth for a Mary Beattie in Cavan 1907 which could fit but I am now worried that she may have not been from there at all and perhaps moved there after getting married  ???  Apparently, they split up when the children were young and she moved to Harrow in Middlesex. He later married so I am now going to search newspaper records in hope of a divorce notice... unless he was a bigamist lol



Doubtful.... he'd have 2 Mothers in Law!!!   ;D  ;D  ;D

Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Friday 10 April 20 00:05 BST (UK)
I did see a birth for a Mary Beattie in Cavan 1907 which could fit but I am now worried that she may have not been from there at all and perhaps moved there after getting married  ???  Apparently, they split up when the children were young and she moved to Harrow in Middlesex. He later married so I am now going to search newspaper records in hope of a divorce notice... unless he was a bigamist lol


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  good point!  ;D ;D

Doubtful.... he'd have 2 Mothers in Law!!!   ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: Sinann on Friday 10 April 20 00:08 BST (UK)
No divorce in Republic of Ireland until 1996.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Friday 10 April 20 00:09 BST (UK)
No divorce in Republic of Ireland until 1996.


Just found that out! So just found out they moved to England together and then he left her..
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: Sinann on Friday 10 April 20 00:12 BST (UK)
You could get a photocopy one of the children's birth Certs for €4, than at least you'd know his name.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Friday 10 April 20 00:15 BST (UK)
You could get a photocopy one of the children's birth Certs for €4, than at least you'd know his name.

It is starting too look that way but at the moment they way everything is I cant afford it :( but I will keep looking and if I really cant find it I will have too.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Friday 10 April 20 00:19 BST (UK)
You use it to find the districts in County Cavan, than you can choose those districts on Irish Genealogy.


Oooh I see! I've just been searching all of them!

Although just found Mary's death record which puts her being born 1908 so that's a little help  :)


Any known siblings?

Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Friday 10 April 20 00:20 BST (UK)
Nope nothing! I asked if her nan ever mentioned her childhood, siblings or even hometown but she never mentioned anything.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Friday 10 April 20 00:22 BST (UK)
Nope nothing! I asked if her nan ever mentioned her childhood, siblings or even hometown but she never mentioned anything.


Bugger   ;D
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Friday 10 April 20 00:30 BST (UK)
You could get a photocopy one of the children's birth Certs for €4, than at least you'd know his name.

It is starting too look that way but at the moment they way everything is I cant afford it :( but I will keep looking and if I really cant find it I will have too.


As far as I know... BDM's can't be Registered in person at the moment due to Virus

As sinann says.... Photocopy of Cert is the way to go


Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Friday 10 April 20 00:41 BST (UK)
where could i get a photocopy from?
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Friday 10 April 20 00:53 BST (UK)


https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/i-want-to-get-a-copy-of-a-certificate-what-do-i-do

..but they are Health Board staff and up to their eyes with work from Virus epidemic and moved to vital areas at moment!


Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Friday 10 April 20 01:01 BST (UK)
Thanks :)

Ive found Marys's headstone and it reads the following;


in loving memory of MARY GAFFNEY
Crossmolina and Cavan
died 21-oct-1990
aged 82 years

her son DICk
died 3-sep-1992
aged 56 years


She died in Crossmolina so do you think maybe Cavan was her place of birth? or maybe just the town she lived in for a long time? mind you she also lived in Middlesex for a while and there's no mention of that on her headstone? lol
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Friday 10 April 20 01:42 BST (UK)


I see that...looks fairly new too. Who put stone up?

Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Friday 10 April 20 01:46 BST (UK)


Cavan....birthplace
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Friday 10 April 20 08:18 BST (UK)


Anne Mary Gaffney..Late of Gurteen, Sligo and Manchester

most probably no connection but.... Undertaker is in Crossmolina, he might be able to get you name of whoever made g/stone for yours, he might have been u/taker for yours!.

You could then ask if he can pass message to family as he probably won't say who paid for g/stone

https://rip.ie/death-notice/anne-mary-gaffney-ballindine-mayo/279003 with email address for u/taker





 
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: MEW53 on Friday 10 April 20 11:47 BST (UK)
I just thought I’d add a thought to this thread as I have a cousin who was born in West Ealing, which was in Middlesex at the time, it’s now in West London. My cousin’s father was John Beattie, he died several years ago and I think he came from Cavan or perhaps Leitrim which is close by to Cavan.
Don’t know if there is any link to the information already here but I thought I’d throw it in the arena.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: dathai on Friday 10 April 20 11:58 BST (UK)
Gaffney Mary ,will and associated papers

Reference  2012/2/131
Date  1991
Creator  Castlebar District Probate Registry

Address  Erris Street , Crossmolina,Co Mayo

date of death 21st Oct 1990  date of grant 14th March 1991

I file
search online catalogue
ignore the OOPS
https://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: dathai on Friday 10 April 20 12:14 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pb8/
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: Sinann on Friday 10 April 20 12:25 BST (UK)
Her death is in the Crossmolina notes of the Western People Oct 30th but no fresh information.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: hallmark on Friday 10 April 20 13:17 BST (UK)
I just thought I’d add a thought to this thread as I have a cousin who was born in West Ealing, which was in Middlesex at the time, it’s now in West London. My cousin’s father was John Beattie, he died several years ago and I think he came from Cavan or perhaps Leitrim which is close by to Cavan.
Don’t know if there is any link to the information already here but I thought I’d throw it in the arena.

Hope all well.... the Mary on Census was Bawnboy District. I posted a Link to them. see if anything rings a bell with Cousin.

Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Saturday 11 April 20 20:55 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone for your input! I'm going to have a good read through everything again and have a good look around :)
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: MEW53 on Sunday 12 April 20 07:40 BST (UK)
Thanks Hallmark, all well here as I’m on 12 week lockdown  will have to contact my cousin to find out more about the Beatties.
😀
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Sunday 12 April 20 14:25 BST (UK)
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Sunday 12 April 20 16:22 BST (UK)
Does anyone know if there is an Irish version of 192.com? I was just thinking of maybe searching the electoral rolls if poss to see if anyone else lived with Mary who may have been a relative with a different name that I can link up?
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Sunday 12 April 20 16:59 BST (UK)
Also just thinking is it possible Mary and Mr Gaffney weren't married? as I can't find anything at all :/ and maybe just listed themselves as married due to having 2 children out of wedlock? Only thing is she died a Gaffney but would they have needed proof of the marriage?
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: Sinann on Monday 13 April 20 00:26 BST (UK)
You would be surprised how many marriages were never registered, still occasionally happens.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Monday 13 April 20 00:27 BST (UK)
Oh double bugger :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: MEW53 on Monday 04 May 20 18:57 BST (UK)
Out of the blue I got a phone call from a cousin ( she was a Beattie before she married) who I haven't spoken to for a year or so. I was telling her about the Gaffney/Beattie thread but she wasn't aware of the Gaffney name at all. Her father John Beattie was from Leitrim but she never really knew much about his Irish roots. He died in Ealing in 1989.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Monday 04 May 20 20:16 BST (UK)
Out of the blue I got a phone call from a cousin ( she was a Beattie before she married) who I haven't spoken to for a year or so. I was telling her about the Gaffney/Beattie thread but she wasn't aware of the Gaffney name at all. Her father John Beattie was from Leitrim but she never really knew much about his Irish roots. He died in Ealing in 1989.

Thank you for asking! Did she know if her father had any siblings at all?
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: MEW53 on Monday 04 May 20 20:41 BST (UK)
No probs, John Beattie was born in 1916 and had 3 sisters and 2 brothers. He married my Mum’s sister Anna Louise Wilson, known as my Auntie Lily, she was in the WAAFs. I did write down the names in my book but not at hand at the moment. She said Margaret was one of his siblings.
My family used to visit my cousin’s family at weekends when they lived in West London when I was young. :)
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Monday 04 May 20 22:58 BST (UK)
No probs, John Beattie was born in 1916 and had 3 sisters and 2 brothers. He married my Mum’s sister Anna Louise Wilson, known as my Auntie Lily, she was in the WAAFs. I did write down the names in my book but not at hand at the moment. She said Margaret was one of his siblings.
My family used to visit my cousin’s family at weekends when they lived in West London when I was young. :)

I did do a quick search on John Beattie and his siblings and indeed there was a Margaret but would she be called nicknamed 'Mary'? I don't suppose you would know where in West London?

Sorry for all the questions!
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: MEW53 on Tuesday 05 May 20 06:59 BST (UK)
John Beattie lived in Ealing W5, I do have the exact address but don’t want to post publicly.
John’s sisters were Margaret ,Josie and Edna ? (My cousin was unsure of her exact number). His brothers were called Walter and Tommy.
Don’t know whether Margaret was referred to as Mary.
Uncle John and family only lived 5 miles from my family when I was young, we enjoyed our occasional Sunday afternoon visits to see them.
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 05 May 20 12:37 BST (UK)
Her father John Beattie was from Leitrim but she never really knew much about his Irish roots.

......John Beattie was born in 1916 and had 3 sisters and 2 brothers.

Might this be the John Beattie mentioned?
John William Beattie born 19 January 1916 at Shannagh, Mohill, Co Leitrim. MMN Costelloe
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01351/1557293.pdf

Shannagh townland
https://www.townlands.ie/leitrim/mohill/mohill/mohill/shannagh/

I did do a quick search on John Beattie and his siblings and indeed there was a Margaret but would she be called nicknamed 'Mary'? 

If so, birth of a sibling Margaret Mary on 4 June 1910
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01558/1629508.pdf

KG



Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Tuesday 05 May 20 19:14 BST (UK)
Her father John Beattie was from Leitrim but she never really knew much about his Irish roots.

......John Beattie was born in 1916 and had 3 sisters and 2 brothers.

Might this be the John Beattie mentioned?
John William Beattie born 19 January 1916 at Shannagh, Mohill, Co Leitrim. MMN Costelloe
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01351/1557293.pdf

Shannagh townland
https://www.townlands.ie/leitrim/mohill/mohill/mohill/shannagh/

I did do a quick search on John Beattie and his siblings and indeed there was a Margaret but would she be called nicknamed 'Mary'? 

If so, birth of a sibling Margaret Mary on 4 June 1910
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01558/1629508.pdf

KG

It's a nightmare tracing this woman!  :o :( I only know she was born about 1908.. sadly unlike the UK death records online the Irish ones don't give you a date of birth :(
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 05 May 20 20:23 BST (UK)
Quote
It's a nightmare tracing this woman!  :o :( I only know she was born about 1908.. sadly unlike the UK death records online the Irish ones don't give you a date of birth :(

They have done since December 2005 in the Irish Republic and since 1973 in Northern Ireland.

KG
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Tuesday 05 May 20 20:29 BST (UK)
Can anyone suggest anything that might help me locate any other family members or more info on with Molly and her sons??? I've emailed the archives, churches. cemeteries and no one has replied.  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Tuesday 05 May 20 21:57 BST (UK)
I'VE HAD A BREAKTHROUGH!!!!  ;D

So i've managed to locate a grandchild of Molly on Ancestry and on their tree (which has pretty much nothing on the Gaffney's) but they have listed Molly's husband as a James Gaffney! Seems that's all they knew about him but i have a name and that's all that matters at the mo!
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: MEW53 on Wednesday 06 May 20 06:49 BST (UK)
Great news, hope you find out more on your quest😀
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Wednesday 06 May 20 21:18 BST (UK)
No joy yet but i'll keep hunting!
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 08 May 20 10:03 BST (UK)

Quote
John’s sisters were Margaret ,Josie and Edna ? ......... His brothers were called Walter and Tommy.

Walter born 8 February 1912
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01490/1606065.pdf

Florence Kathleen born 3 March 1914
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01419/1583089.pdf

Josephine Mary born 15 March 1918
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01279/1530155.pdf

Thomas born maybe 1920 onwards, including this one.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F1MT-YNB

KG

Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Friday 22 May 20 13:07 BST (UK)
So i ordered a copy of their son's birth certificate and it confirms his fathers name was James! Woohoo! but is that Cloncavid underneath his name? I've tried googling but not helping that much ???

(I've removed the son's name as he is still alive)
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 22 May 20 16:13 BST (UK)
The informant Elizabeth Nolan? lived in Gowna which is in Scrabby District in Cavan R.D. Here's Scrabby Electoral Division.
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/scrabby1/ and the townland associated with Gowna.
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/tullyhunco/scrabby/scrabby/loch-gowna-scrabby/

If she spoke with a broad Cavan accent, she might have said 'Cloncavid', written down by the registrar, when the actual name was Cloncovet.
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/clanmahon/drumlumman/kilcogy/cloncovet/
This townland is about 7km SE of Gowna.

Just a thought  ???

KG




Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Friday 22 May 20 16:32 BST (UK)
The informant Elizabeth Nolan? lived in Gowna which is in Scrabby District in Cavan R.D. Here's Scrabby Electoral Division.
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/scrabby1/ and the townland associated with Gowna.
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/tullyhunco/scrabby/scrabby/loch-gowna-scrabby/

If she spoke with a broad Cavan accent, she might have said 'Cloncavid', written down by the registrar, when the actual name was Cloncovet.
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/clanmahon/drumlumman/kilcogy/cloncovet/
This townland is about 7km SE of Gowna.

Just a thought  ???

KG

Thank you :)

Do you know if it's possible to find electoral rolls for Cavan for the 1920's / 1930's?
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Friday 22 May 20 16:33 BST (UK)
Also can anyone read the place of birth?
Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 22 May 20 17:57 BST (UK)
Also can anyone read the place of birth?

Looks like Cloncavit?, Cavan RD (Rural or Registration District).

For the electoral rolls have a look at this article.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01phb/

You probably need to contact the archives at Cavan County Library.
http://www.cavanlibrary.ie/Default.aspx?StructureID_str=36

KG

Title: Re: Gaffney / Beattie
Post by: littlefacey on Friday 22 May 20 18:04 BST (UK)
Thank you. I am currently talking to the archives people about trying to find a marriage record for the couple or a birth cert for Mary to try and find out who they were!