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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: david standley on Saturday 11 April 20 09:41 BST (UK)
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Has anyone any idea how to solve this puzzle? I am trying to help a friend identify her grandmother. The lady was very coy about her identity and even the information on her marriage certificate is inaccurate!
The best that we have to go on is that she was called Mabel or Mabel Claire or Mabel something. We dont have her surname and her father's name was possibly John although that is unreliable!
She consistently gave her birthday as 9 August 1878.
Does anyone know of any way of interrogating the online births databases for an exact date of birth. My first pass showed over 900 Mabels born in that quarter!
Any idea would be welcome short of trying to eliminate each of the 900 one by one.
Thanks
David
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FreeBMD is compiled from the quarterly returns to the GRO.
Exact dates are only found on the individual certificates.
What surname does she use at marriage?
Who does she name as her father? (Yes, I realise the name may be fictitious!)
What censuses have you found her on?
Is she on the 1939 National Register?
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Marriage ? Spouse’s name
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Births of any children? Mother’s maiden name.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
If she was alive in 1939, her birthdate may be confirmed on the register., then look in area of marriage or residence.
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The 1939 Register shows five Mabels with the birth date 9 August 1878
Stan
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Including a Mabel C, do you know what area she was born in or where she lived ?
Cathy
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There is a marriage
Mabel Claire to Francis E Grundy 1902
Could that be her?
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That sounds good, there is a probable son on the 1939 register which would fit with that.
Cathy
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GRUNDY, FRANCIS RIGBY
GRO Reference: 1916 J Quarter in BOLTON Volume 08C Page 567
Ah,
GRUNDY, FRANCIS ESTLIN CHRISTOPHER CLAIRE
GRO Reference: 1917 M Quarter in ST. PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 71
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Yes she is Mabel Claire Grundy. She was married under the name of Mabel (surname) Claire giving her father's name as John, a gentleman. She used Claire as the surname for her childrens' births. She told her family that her father came from Warwickshire and was killed in a hunting accident. She gives Leamington as her birthpalce in the 1901 and 1911 census returns.
As far as anyone can tell - and several people besides me have looked. None of the 'facts' which she supplied bears scrutiny!
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Where is she in 1901 and 1911?
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Did they have any children before Frederick in 1914?
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1901 Camberwell - Waitress unmarried.
1902 Married Francis Estlin Grundy - Strand London
1911 Holborn married with husband noi children yet.
Family totally content that all facts post marriage check out but nothing pre marriage makes sense.
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The marriage certificate online gives her father as John Claire, gentleman.
Her address in 1902 is St Martins Lane, St martin in the fields.
Cathy
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children
Frederick 1911-13
Frederica 1914-79
Charles J E 1915-96
and Francis E C 1916-93
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On the 1901 could birthplace read Lemmington (possibly Lemington) Northumb...? or possiblycounty was written as assumed to be in Norhumberland instead of Warwickshire.
Cathy