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Title: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: TunjiLees on Friday 17 April 20 23:51 BST (UK)
Hi everyone,

I'm not very good with American records so I'm hoping someone can help me turn up some leads.

I have found this Lees family (also spelled Lays) recorded in a "parish census" in Ireland with 5 of the family members recorded as having emigrated to America. I would have thought it would be easy to find them in America with their dates of migration and their year of birth, but it's not so easy at all!

Teressan townland, Parish of Derryloran, Co. Tyrone, Ireland - July 22nd 1842
- John Lees or Lays born 1792
- Margaret McCord born 1801
- John born 15-May 1827, Gone to America Nov. 1850 (John married a Maria Lees in Oct 1850 before migrating)
- James born 15-Nov 1828, Gone to America March 1848
- Jane born 15-Nov 1830, Gone to America Aug. 1848
- Margaret born 03-Jul 1832, Gone to America Aug. 1848
- Sally born 12-Jan 1834, Gone to America 12 April 1858 (Sally is a nickname for Sarah)
- Mary born 15 Jun 1837, Married 1865
- Nancy born 1840
- Betty Eliza born 29-Jun 1842 Gone to England 1863 Novr.
- Martha born 1844
- Isabella born 11-Jun 1846

I've searched the immigration records on FamilySearch but I can't find any where the dates match. The only possible lead I have found is this entry on the 1860 census for a John and Maria Lees in New York https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCWF-MLX
I cannot find them after 1860 though and don't know how I could confirm that they are indeed the same couple who married in Derryloran, Ireland.

No luck finding anything for the other siblings.

Would appreciate any guidance here.
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: oldohiohome on Saturday 18 April 20 01:12 BST (UK)
There is a James Lees in Brooklyn in 1860 and 1870, but both times his birth year works out to 1823. He named two daughters Jane and Maria, though, so that is a plus.

1860
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCHX-1SK

1870
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8ND-F9L

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To confirm any of them as the ones from  Derryloran, Ireland, you are going to have to find American records matching either 1) parents' names, 2) exact dates of birth, or 3) exact birth place, wouldn't you say?  All are going to be hard to find for people born in the 1820s, since US marriage and death records didn't start asking a lot of information until sometime after 1900.

Try searching familysearch and ancestry using just the parents' names. I didn't find anything, but you could try variant spellings of the surname, and your mileage may vary, as they say.

Also, they might not have arrived at New York City, did you try Boston, Philadelphia, or maybe Baltimore? familysearch has all of them, maybe try changing the port in the search boxes. Or search each database separately. You can find them by Googling "familysearch Boston arrivals" for example.  But the manifests aren't going to provide much information and you might not be able to ID them. If you find a few of them travelling together, then you might conclude that is them.

But on the other hand, if you think you have one of them in New York City, chances are good that the others are there as well. People usually went where they had family or friends.  Have you looked in the NY City directories? If you find John and there is another Lees at the same address, there is a good chance he is his brother. A lot of the NYC directories are online free somewhere, and at ancestry.com.

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and worse comes to worse, at least you know what happened to them. based on other posts on the US boards, a lot of people just drop out of the Ireland and UK records and you have to look everywhere else in the world for them.
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 18 April 20 09:26 BST (UK)
Looking at this from the point of Irish records-

"Mary born 15 Jun 1837, Married 1865" The closest I can find in Ireland is this 1860 marriage- Mary Lees, father John Lees a farmer-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1860/09594/5479343.pdf
Lissan Parish- https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/lissan-dungannon-upper-portion/
Lissan Parish is just north of Derryloran Parish
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 18 April 20 09:37 BST (UK)
"Martha born 1844"

Possibility- marriage of Martha Lees of Derryloran Parish, father John Lees a farmer, in 3rd Cookstown Presbyterian Church to William Mulholland-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11259/8129500.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/derryloran-upper-dungannon-portion/

Children-
William John- https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03106/2139231.pdf
Margaret- https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02981/2092367.pdf
James- https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02706/1996493.pdf
Joseph- https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02607/1962886.pdf

William & widowed mother Martha in 1901- her age given as 50 (born c1851) but may not be accurate (William's age only 30 when he would have been 26)-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Moneyhaw/Teressan/1534270/

Not sure if this is Martha's death-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05461/4528162.pdf

William Mulholland died 1889- https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1889/06155/4758813.pdf
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 18 April 20 09:59 BST (UK)
The Will of William Mulholland late of Teresson County Londonderry Farmer who died 2 February 1889 at same place was proved at Londonderry by Samuel Kidd of New Buildings Farmer and James Mulholland of Drumard Tailor both in the County of Tyrone the Executors. Effects £215 5s.
Will mentions dear wife Martha, sister-in-law Nancy Lees, wife's siblings (not by name), daughter Margaret. Interesting that other sons not mentioned and farm is to go to daughter Margaret...
You can read wording of William's Will here (put in William Mulholland & Teresson (in full abstract box)- https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: Crumblie on Saturday 18 April 20 10:08 BST (UK)
The 1865 census shows James Lees age 42 born Ireland, occupation caprpenter.
Wife Mary A Lees age 40 born Ireland
Daughter Jane age 14 born Brooklyn
Son Alexander age 12 born Brooklyn
Daughter Maria aage 10 born Brooklyn

He died 8 Mar 1882 and was widower according to FindAGrave
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 18 April 20 10:47 BST (UK)
New York - Index to Death Certificate

James Lees - 1824 Ireland - aged 58 years - widower - died 8 March 1882 - burial 10 March 1882 - - resided - 354 Kent Av. Brooklyn New York. occupation carpenter - father and mother born Ireland.
Years in US 41 Years
Cause of Death:   Phthisis Pulmonalis - Certificate Number 2849

New York Municipal Deaths - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WS8-7K1

Sandra
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 18 April 20 10:50 BST (UK)

1855 census E.D. 1, Ward 7, Brooklyn City, Kings, New York.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K6WM-CKV

Sandra
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 18 April 20 11:04 BST (UK)

New York City city directories are available online for free:

https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/collections/new-york-city-directories#/?tab=about

Sandra
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 18 April 20 11:16 BST (UK)
Mid-Ulster Mail (Cookstown), 22 Sept.1900: ... wherein Richard Charles [?] is Plaintiff, said Martha Mulholland is Defendant—All that said these that Farm of Land in the Townland of Tyressan, in said County...

Belfast Newsletter, 5 Feb.1902: AN EVICTION NEAR COOKSTOWN. On the 3rd inst. Wm. M‘Mullan, Sheriff’s bailiff, with two assistants, proceeded to evict Martha Mulholland, Tyresson, near Cookslown, power of decree for possession granted by his Honour Judge Overend, K.C., Recorder Londonderry …
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 18 April 20 11:47 BST (UK)
Following the land for a moment-
Valuation Revision Books (free, on PRONI's website)- townland Terressen- property #1 just over 15 acres-
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/services/searching-valuation-revision-books
1864 John Lees, changed to Martha Lees 1873, changed to William Mulholland 1874, changed to Margaret Mulholland 1898, changed to William James ? 1904, changed to William Harkness 1909.
This fits with
1) John Lees either dying or leaving c1873 (see below)
2) Martha Lees marrying William Mulholland in 1873
3) William Mulholland leaving farm to daughter Margaret
4) no Mulhollands there in 1911 census

Not all civil deaths are online (just keep checking as the ones back to 1864 will eventually be added) but this is possibility for John Lees-
John Lees, age 76, died 1 Mar.1872 Magherafelt district (Bellaghy sub-district)
and just a short while earlier-
Margaret Lees, age 69, died 16 Jan.1872 Magherafelt district (Bellaghy sub-district)
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: oldohiohome on Saturday 18 April 20 13:59 BST (UK)
a couple of the NYC City Directories

1857 New York City Directory
James Lees, tables, home r 326 W 29th
John Lees, laborer, h 270 W 28th

1860/61 New York Directory
James Lees, tables, r 227 W26th, h Brooklyn
no John Lees
Jane Lees, fancy goods, 536 Broome

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So in 1857 this James and John Lees lived one block apart, then by 1860 James moved to Brooklyn. The James Lees in Brooklyn on the 1860 Census was a carpenter :). But where did this John Lees go after 1860? And is that your Jane Lees? and where is 536 Broome?

The John Lees you found in 1860  was a "carman", so he could be the laborer above, but not the plasterer listed below.

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these people probably are not yours, but I'll post them. maybe they will come in handy down the road.

also in 1857 City Directory:
John Lees, plasterer, h 64 W 38th 
James Lees, merchant at 9 S. William, home 40 Tenth
Samuel, plasterer at 302 Fourth Ave, Henry, Thomas
and
Lees & Johnson, plasterers, 302 Fourth Ave
Lees & Waller, merchants, 9 S William

also in 1860/61 Directory
James, baker 617 Third Ave
James, merchant, lives in Westchester County
Joseph Lees, finisher, h 205 Mott
Richard, Thomas, William
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: TunjiLees on Saturday 18 April 20 16:27 BST (UK)
Thanks for the responses everyone! I hadn't thought to check directories, so that seems like a good step to check those.

The Carpenter occupation rang a bell so I checked my research and there is a James Denham Lees, Carpenter, son of Alexander Lees, who married a Mary Anne Bailey in 1850 Ardtrea, Cookstown; https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1850/09386/5399785.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1850/09386/5399785.pdf)
This James is likely the brother of the Maria Lees who married the John Lees, son of John Lees. It's all a bit confusing! This is useful in any case. I'm trying to track these Lees families as they lived in neighbouring townlands and all seem to be related somehow. The witness of this James' wedding is a John Lays, who I guess is the John Lees in Terressan as his is the only Lees family I have found who use that spelling.

I'm going to try going through the directories and cross reference that with the censuses. I have found that Lees families often lose the "s" and go by Lees after moving abroad, so I'll check for Lee families as well.

Is there a good place to look for New York marriages 1840s-60s?

aghadowey thank you for looking into the Irish side. Sorry I actually had most of what you posted already in my research. Didn't think to mention it as I was posting this on the United States board. I didn't have William Mulholland's will though so that is great! The Martha Mulholland who died at Derry Asylum must be Martha Lees as the article you referenced tells the full story, a sad story really. Martha was evicted from her home but refused to leave and had to be carried off forcefully by 3 men. The judge then ordered her to be committed to the asylum as a lunatic. There are actually surviving Derry hospital patient records for that period, so I hope to consult those one day.
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: oldohiohome on Saturday 18 April 20 16:39 BST (UK)
Thanks for the responses everyone! I hadn't thought to check directories, so that seems like a good step to check those.

The Carpenter occupation rang a bell so I checked my research and there is a James Denham Lees, Carpenter, son of Alexander Lees, who married a Mary Anne Bailey in 1850 Ardtrea, Cookstown;

That might explain why the son in Brooklyn in 1860 and 1870 is named Alexander :)
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: oldohiohome on Saturday 18 April 20 16:52 BST (UK)
Is there a good place to look for New York marriages 1840s-60s?

familysearch claims to have them in this collection, but I don't know how many you will actually find. I tried Lees, NYC, 1840 to 1860 and didn't find anything.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1680847

it doesn't look promising, according to this site:
https://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/new-york-birth-marriage-death-vital-records

maybe look for newspaper announcements of the marriage or filing for a license, or church records, as that site suggests.

Someone else might have some better ideas.
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: RJ137 on Saturday 18 April 20 17:53 BST (UK)
There is a James Lees in Brooklyn in 1860 and 1870, but both times his birth year works out to 1823. He named two daughters Jane and Maria, though, so that is a plus.

1860
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCHX-1SK

1870
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8ND-F9L


a couple of the NYC City Directories

1857 New York City Directory
James Lees, tables, home r 326 W 29th
John Lees, laborer, h 270 W 28th

1860/61 New York Directory
James Lees, tables, r 227 W26th, h Brooklyn
no John Lees
Jane Lees, fancy goods, 536 Broome

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So in 1857 this James and John Lees lived one block apart, then by 1860 James moved to Brooklyn. The James Lees in Brooklyn on the 1860 Census was a carpenter :). But where did this John Lees go after 1860? And is that your Jane Lees? and where is 536 Broome?



I remember a while back on these boards there was a search for a "Lees" family. What we discovered was a lot of them over time dropped the "S" at the end of their name and were listed as "Lee".

I think this is John's death record. Age is right, parents listed as John & Margaret. Buried Greenwood Cemetery

Death: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WDS-1WL

This would be James's death in 1882

Death: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WS8-7K1
Find A Grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/181656730/james-lees

From the 1860-1880 census we know James Lees had a son Alexander(b.1852/1853). The son Alexander J was a policeman as indicated in the 1880 census. He eventually became a Captain in the Police  before retiring and dying in 1902.

With father & sister Jennie in 1880.

1880 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ8V-1J6

I question some of the info on some of these transcribed death records for the New York City Municipal Deaths, in particular the parents names. Alexander is a fine example. His father's name is listed as Alexander, which isn't true. His 2nd wife of a couple of years may have given the info & didn't know?

Alexander's death: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WF4-8LH

Find A Grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/181656252

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What's interesting and connects all the above information is they were all buried at Greenwood Cemetery- Section 15- Lot 17263

What is listed below is some of what I've pulled from the Greenwood Cemetery records with that Section & Lot number. I  think these all might be related? In looking at death records for the names & Dates on Family Search, some are infants, possibly children of the children of James & John. Others appear older and be more around the age of John & James & born in Ireland, perhaps cousins, uncles or other relation?


Greenwood Cemetery

  Name                       Burial Date    Lot      Section
LEE  JOHN                  1890-01-26  17263   15
LEES  JAMES              1882-03-10  17263   15
LEES ALEXANDER J.    1902-01-19  17263   15
LEE  ANN                    1887-02-28  17263   15
LEE  SAMUEL F.           1882-03-21  17263   15
LEE MABEL                 1881-07-11  17263   15
LEE ROBERT               1895-04-18  17263   15
LEE THOMAS              1890-10-11  17263   15

https://www.green-wood.com/burial_search/

Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: TunjiLees on Saturday 18 April 20 22:18 BST (UK)
Wow that burial plot is a massive lead! Great find thanks! Got to try and see how they all fit together now. How were you able to see the ages of the deceased people in those plots? Do you know of a way to search by plot number, or did you find each of those manually?
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: TunjiLees on Saturday 18 April 20 22:39 BST (UK)
I went through all the Lee/Lees burials in Greenwood and wow there are many buried in that lot!
Would a lot only have had 1 owner, or could these have been multiple unrelated families? If they are all from the same family then that's awesome, and I've got a lot of detective work ahead of me!

LEE EDNA 1970-08-07 17263 15
LEE HENRY 1923-07-31 17263 15
LEE JANE 1927-10-14 17263 15
LEE JOHN 1882-05-27 17263 15
LEE JOHN 1890-01-26 17263 15
LEE JOHN 1893-11-16 17263 15
LEE JOHN ALEXANDER 1937-02-15 17263 15
LEE LENA 1920-03-10 17263 15
LEE MABEL 1881-07-11 17263 15
LEE MARY 1901-01-04 17263 15
LEE MATHEW 1892-01-30 17263 15
LEE RAY 1917-02-14 17263 15
LEE RPBT 1895-04-18 17263 15
LEE SAMUEL F. 1882-03-21 17263 15
LEE THOMAS 1890-10-11 17263 15
LEE THOMAS H. 1897-10-31 17263 15
LEE WILLIAM 1915-01-06 17263 15
LEES ALEXANDER J. 1902-01-19 17263 15
LEES JAMES 1882-03-10 17263 15
LEES SAMUEL F. 1882-03-21 17263 15
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: TunjiLees on Sunday 19 April 20 13:03 BST (UK)
I've spent many hours now going trying to cross reference each of the people buried in that Greenwood Cemetery lot. I wish I could figure out how to search by lot number to see if there are people with other surnames who are also buried in that lot and related to the family.

Also not sure if there's a way to search for a name on the New York directories or if you have to go through the pages manually which is quite time consuming. So I didn't cross reference with the directories for now.

One of the Lee burials in the lot does not appear to be related to the family at all, but most of them seem to link back to the same families. Not sure how it all fits together at this stage.

Apart from the James Lees, Carpenter, and son Alexander Lees, Policeman, who have been posted about before, I have put the following together;

John Lees, Carman/Hostler, married Maria Lees
This seems to be the John Lees son of John Lees of Teressan who married Maria Lees daughter of Alexander Lees of Tullyraw. I didn't have much luck finding this family between the 1860 census and John's death in 1890
- 1855 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K672-8H1
- 1860 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCWF-MLX
- 1870 yet to find
- 1880 yet to find
- 1890 death https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WDS-1WL LEE JOHN 1890-01-26 17263 15 buried in the same Greenwood Cemetery lot
- possible son James Lee marriage; https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24S9-T2D unconfirmed
- possible son William Lees marriage; https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24SQ-DCH unconfirmed

John Alexander Lee, born abt 1852 New York
This appears to be a son of John Lee & Maria Lees (spelled „Marie Leeds“ on his death certificate)
- 1870 ? can't find a definite match
- 1878, 1st marriage to Ellen Walker https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:249T-SL2
- 1879 birth of son William Lee https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HQBJ-BG2M he died Single in 1916 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WCC-W6L
- 1880 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ63-FQS
- 1881 birth of John Lee https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:271L-CZH
- 1900 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSJB-DTG
- 1902, 2nd marriage to Lena Stern https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24SR-RD9
- 1910 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M53L-KNR
- 1920 wife dies, LEE LENA 1920-03-10 17263 15, cannot find municipal death record.
- 1923 passport application https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV5Y-FYGQ it seems like he travelled back to visit his parent's native country. Includes a photo of him.
- 1937 burial record https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WLS-32C LEE JOHN ALEXANDER 1937-02-15 17263 15 buried in the same Greenwood Cemetery lot
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: TunjiLees on Sunday 19 April 20 13:09 BST (UK)
Robert Lee m. Ann Patton
I'm not sure if I have the same person who died in 1895 in the same Greenwood lot here, but the occupation Contractor matches with the 1880 census. Need to check original death record for clues to try and confirm the link.
- Born about 1826 Ireland
- probably married around 1854
- 1855 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K6Q9-LZ5
- 1860 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC4T-THH
- 1870 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8N2-ZLQ
- 1880 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZX9-3JH
- 1895 death https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W6X-VXX b. abt 1826 Ireland, Contracter, Widowed  LEE RPBT 1895-04-18 17263 15 same plot in Greenwood
- son George married Myra Meagher 1889 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:249H-GP2
- son George buried Greenwood but different plot https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WXN-J6V
- did not yet find son Robert's first marriage
- son Robert remarried Maria Rhein 1909 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2444-C72
- son Robert buried Woodlawn https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WLB-12V
- daughter Margaret married Albert Kirkschner, buried Greenwood, which plot? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WT3-JDH
- Margaret's index in Greenwood Cemetery in a different plot; KIRSCHNER MARGARET EUGENE 1943-12-23 339931 32 with KIRSCHNER WILLIAM LEE 1951-09-21 339931 32 and KIRSCHNER FLORENCE D. 1969-03-26 339931 32 in the same lot
- son William married Anna Wilson Blake 1891 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24HL-VGZ
- son William remarried Charlotte Smith 1902 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24ST-2XV
- son Thomas died 1897 and buried in the same lot LEE THOMAS H. 1897-10-31 17263 15 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WY6-NWZ

Matthew Lee m. Mary/Maria/Marie ?
Don't know yet how this family is related to the other Lees. Matthew Lee was born around 1817. He could possibly be the following entry in Greenwood „LEE MATHEW 1892-01-30 17263 15“ and this record https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W6S-XLP  though this would put birth year later, in 1826. Parents names are indexed as Saul Lee and Hattie Lee. This seems likely to be a transcription mistake as Saul is a Jewish name. Should probably read Saml, short for Samuel.
- 1855 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K67F-4K8
- 1860 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCWT-GXK
- 1865 birth son William https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27Y5-NRM
- 1870 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8FZ-KLZ
- 1880 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ6T-ZNZ
- 1890 death son Thomas https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WDZ-JPL  LEE THOMAS - 1890-10-11 17263 15
- 1900 death son Samuel https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WDF-2Z1
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: TunjiLees on Sunday 19 April 20 13:14 BST (UK)
Henry Lee & Jane Duncan
- LEE HENRY 1923-07-31 17263 15 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W18-Z4H b. Abt 1837 Ireland, son of Henry Lee and Margaret Campbell
- LEE JANE 1927-10-14 17263 15 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W5K-84H Jane Duncan b. abt 1848 Ireland, widow of Henry Lee
- Henry emigrated around 1855 according to the 1900 census
- possibly in 1860: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC7T-8HR
- around 1868 Henry married a Margaret (maiden name unknown, who was she?)
- 1870 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8ND-X8V
- around 1874 Henry married Jane Duncan according to the 1900 census
- 1880 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ8V-SCB
- 1892 cannot find them on the New York census
- 1900 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSFZ-R4B
- 1910 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5QH-RB8
- 1920 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJPY-FHL

Matthew Lee b. Abt 1844 & Barbara Stewart
I found this family by searching for the names Henry Lee and Margaret Campbell to find this potential brother of the Henry Lee b. About 1837 who married Jane Duncan.
- Matthew migrated around 1863, Barbara around 1861
- Cannot find a match on the 1865 New York state census
- 1870 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8NX-9SK
- 1871 birth https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:H79C-YG6Z
- 1875 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VNJH-S8N
- 1880 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZDH-37N (mistakenly recorded as born Scotland)
- 1883 birth https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FDLG-Y35
- 1892 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQQC-3TY
- 1900 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSNJ-CSR
- 1910 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MP1M-KX6
- 1920 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJT9-Z1L
- 1930 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4VR-269
- 1934 Barbara's death https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WYK-7YM
- 1936 Matthew's death https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WR8-XKL
Title: Re: Irish family "Gone to America" but where?
Post by: TunjiLees on Sunday 19 April 20 13:24 BST (UK)
If anyone still replies to this then they are brave, as this is turning into a massive research project!

John Lees b. Abt 1857, Cooper, married to ?
This could be a son of John Lees and Margaret Henry of Tullyraw who married 1856. I currently have 4 children born to that couple but it could habve been more.
- Cannot find a good match for John on the 1880 US census.
- 1882 death https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W8H-824 buried in the same Greenwood lot LEE JOHN 1882-05-27 17263 15

Unknown connections
There are more Lee buried in the same Greenwood lot who I haven't been able to link to any families.

- LEE MABEL 1881-07-11 17263 15 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W3J-RF4 this is a child death, but whose child?
- LEE JOHN 1893-11-16 17263 15 cannot find matching death record for this burial
- LEE MARY 1901-01-04 17263 15 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WXH-3F5 could this be Mary? The surname doesn't quite match though.
- LEE WILLIAM 1915-01-06 17263 15 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WN6-MC7 b. Abt 1876 to Henry Lee & Mary McGovern. Don't know how this guy fits in. Is this the William b. Abt 1873 to Henry Lee and Margaret? The age doesn't quite match though and the mother's name would have to be wrong on one of the records. Can't find a good match for him on the censuses.
- LEE RAY 1917-02-14 17263 15 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WNV-HYL child death, son of Ralph Lee & Grace MacCrae. Cannot find anything for a couple by the name
- LEE EDNA 1970-08-07 17263 15. The only record of an Edna Lee who died in New York in 1870 is this one; https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JR7M-QX3 born 1890. Do not know if this is a maiden name or married name so haven't been able to trace her further.

- LEE SAMUEL F. 1882-03-21 17263 15 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W3R-L2X b. 1881 to Francis Lees of Germany? and Mary Ann Lees of England/Ireland according to https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WJT-Z6Z ; possible marriage https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:249Y-YYS This is clearly a German family and doesn't appear to be related